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From: Jon Paschke via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
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Hi Mike,

I use the old fashion method of priming the pump. Take the gas cap off 
and blow some air pressure into the tank and it will force fuel to the 
pump and vola primed pump. I have to do my Sprite every year I take it 
out of storage.

Jon


On 10/23/2021 4:06 PM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets wrote:
> OK, I was wrong again.  I have the wires and fuel lines hooked up 
> correctly.  I thought I had the black wire going to ground until I got 
> under the car and saw the black wire to ground had a red stripe.  The 
> other wire was all black and went to power.  So everything is hooked 
> up correctly for a positive ground car, but it is still not drawing 
> fuel from the tank.  The only original parts in this system now is a 
> small portion of steel fuel line that exits the tank for the pickup in 
> the new fuel tank, the steel fuel line that runs from the output side 
> of the pump.  It is connected to the pump with a short piece of rubber 
> fuel line..  That original steel line then runs under the car to the 
> engine compartment and connects to the single HIF44 carb with a piece 
> of flexible line.  There is a filter installed in this flexible hose 
> line.  There is also a filter cut into the flexible line just before 
> the "in" connection of the pump coming from the tank.  Still no fuel 
> draw.  It's not a weak battery.  I charged it all night on a float 
> charger.  Does the ECCO fuel pump have to be primed?  I'm stumped.
> Mike MacLean
> On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 08:02:05 AM PDT, Larry Macy via 
> Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Not  exactly that, but BTDT many times. â??Dohâ?? is right.
>
> Larry
>
>> On Oct 23, 2021, at 3:04 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets 
>>
>>      I just replaced the fuel tank on my Bugeye today. The coating 
>> inside the tank was breaking down and clogging the fuel filter.  The 
>> fuel pump was also replaced with an ECCO pump. The location of the 
>> pump was changed.  I had a Facet pump screwed to the top of the arch 
>> above the axle.  It was a ways to draw the fuel, but the Facet did OK 
>> while it worked. The ECCO pump was installed to the vertical panel in 
>> front of the axle.  Closer to the level of the tank pickup outlet 
>> tube.  If any of you have installed a fuel tank in a Bugeye, you know 
>> what a bitch it is to route the filler neck out the hole in the 
>> rubber bung in the rear deck lid.  Not a one person job.  I was lucky 
>> a friend dropped by while I was in the middle of the installation.
>>      After all was installed and the fuel tubing was re-routed to 
>> accomodate the new pump I put a couple of gallons of gas in the tank 
>> and turned the key.  The fuel pump started clicking, but still no 
>> fuel to the engine.  What the heck? At this point my back was 
>> starting to hurt.  I had skinned my right knee and my neck was sore. 
>> Somehow being 70 and getting under a Bugeye pushing a fuel tank in 
>> place  is not the physical therapy I was hoping for.  At this point I 
>> said screw it.  It was time for supper and I decided to take a whack 
>> at it tomorrow.
>>     Well at about 10 PM, I had a thought.  Did I hook up the fuel 
>> lines backward?  So, I went out to the garage and lay down on the 
>> floor to take a look.  What I found had me going "Doh" like Homer 
>> Simpson.  First thing I noticed was the black wire was ground to the 
>> body and the red wire to the power connection.  My Bugeye is a 
>> positive ground car. Tomorrow I switch the wires. "Doh!"
>> Mikke MacLean
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    <p>Hi Mike,</p>
    <p>I use the old fashion method of priming the pump. Take the gas
      cap off and blow some air pressure into the tank and it will force
      fuel to the pump and vola primed pump. I have to do my Sprite
      every year I take it out of storage. <br>
    </p>
    <p>Jon</p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/23/2021 4:06 PM, Michael MacLean
      via Spridgets wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">OK, I was wrong again.  I
          have the wires and fuel lines hooked up correctly.  I thought
          I had the black wire going to ground until I got under the car
          and saw the black wire to ground had a red stripe.  The other
          wire was all black and went to power.  So everything is hooked
          up correctly for a positive ground car, but it is still not
          drawing fuel from the tank.  The only original parts in this
          system now is a small portion of steel fuel line that exits
          the tank for the pickup in the new fuel tank, the steel fuel
          line that runs from the output side of the pump.  It is
          connected to the pump with a short piece of rubber fuel
          line..  That original steel line then runs under the car to
          the engine compartment and connects to the single HIF44 carb
          with a piece of flexible line.  There is a filter installed in
          this flexible hose line.  There is also a filter cut into the
          flexible line just before the "in" connection of the pump
          coming from the tank.  Still no fuel draw.  It's not a weak
          battery.  I charged it all night on a float charger.  Does the
          ECCO fuel pump have to be primed?  I'm stumped.</div>
        <div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Mike MacLean<br>
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          <div> On Saturday, October 23, 2021, 08:02:05 AM PDT, Larry
            Macy via Spridgets <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" 
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              <div>Not  exactly that, but BTDT many times. â??Dohâ?? is
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                <div class="yiv9876174550">Larry<br
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                        <div class="yiv9876174550">On Oct 23, 2021, at
                          3:04 AM, Michael MacLean via Spridgets &lt;<a
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                          <div class="yiv9876174550">     I just
                            replaced the fuel tank on my Bugeye today. 
                            The coating inside the tank was breaking
                            down and clogging the fuel filter.  The fuel
                            pump was also replaced with an ECCO pump. 
                            The location of the pump was changed.  I had
                            a Facet pump screwed to the top of the arch
                            above the axle.  It was a ways to draw the
                            fuel, but the Facet did OK while it worked. 
                            The ECCO pump was installed to the vertical
                            panel in front of the axle.  Closer to the
                            level of the tank pickup outlet tube.  If
                            any of you have installed a fuel tank in a
                            Bugeye, you know what a bitch it is to route
                            the filler neck out the hole in the rubber
                            bung in the rear deck lid.  Not a one person
                            job.  I was lucky a friend dropped by while
                            I was in the middle of the installation.  
                            <div class="yiv9876174550">     After all
                              was installed and the fuel tubing was
                              re-routed to accomodate the new pump I put
                              a couple of gallons of gas in the tank and
                              turned the key.  The fuel pump started
                              clicking, but still no fuel to the
                              engine.  What the heck? At this point my
                              back was starting to hurt.  I had skinned
                              my right knee and my neck was sore. 
                              Somehow being 70 and getting under a
                              Bugeye pushing a fuel tank in place  is
                              not the physical therapy I was hoping
                              for.  At this point I said screw it.  It
                              was time for supper and I decided to take
                              a whack at it tomorrow.  </div>
                            <div class="yiv9876174550">    Well at about
                              10 PM, I had a thought.  Did I hook up the
                              fuel lines backward?  So, I went out to
                              the garage and lay down on the floor to
                              take a look.  What I found had me going
                              "Doh" like Homer Simpson.  First thing I
                              noticed was the black wire was ground to
                              the body and the red wire to the power
                              connection.  My Bugeye is a positive
                              ground car. Tomorrow I switch the wires. 
                              "Doh!"</div>
                            <div class="yiv9876174550">Mikke MacLean</div>
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