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Re: [Spridgets] SU AUD 136t carbs

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Subject: Re: [Spridgets] SU AUD 136t carbs
From: Mike Rambour via Spridgets <spridgets@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2022 08:50:50 -0700
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   I agree that a single HIF is probably the best way to go BUT this is 
not going into a Spridget or Mini and I just don't have the clearance.

  I tried the HIF that we took off my son-in-law's MkI Mini that has a 
1275 in it and no there was no room on the side for it.  People in the 
UK that have done this engine swap have said, there is barely enough 
room for some pancake filters and others have said you have to use what 
I call the little rock guard that is not really a filter.  I have cut 
the engines front plate to move the engine over as far as I can and 
center it in the chassis and also keep the driveshaft pretty straight,  
but it will still be tight.
  My Son-in-law's twin SU's from his Mini look like they will fit, I am 
still "fiddling" with the body and engine mounts so have some play 
room.  With a HIF I will have to bump out the hood sides right where 
there are some louvers.

  Its all going into a 1934 Singer Le Mans.  This is engine swap that 
while not common, has been done quite a bit in the UK.

     mike


   On 9/13/2022 7:09 AM, Derf wrote:
> For a driver a single HIF is really hard to beat.
>
> On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 9:03 AM Rick Fisk via Spridgets 
> <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>     Hi Mike,
>
>     I don't have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass on
>     some carb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.  The HS2's
>     are all pretty similar and any will work no matter what the AUD
>     number.  Worn throttle shafts can be fixed 99% of the time by
>     simply replacing the throttle shaft.  The carb body itself does
>     not wear out, only the shaft.  So no worries about installing
>     bushings.  I buy carb rebuild kits from MiniSpares in England for
>     considerably less than what the guys here in the US sell them
>     for.  The kits genuine SU parts and are very complete with new
>     throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc. Shipping is very fast and
>     not too expensive.  They use DHL Express for shipping and stuff
>     ordered from them usually arrives in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10
>     days when ordering from Moss.
>
>     Rick
>
>     > On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Mike Rambour via Spridgets
>     <spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>     >
>     >   So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my 1098
>     junkyard motor that came with no carbs.  I found some on Ebay that
>     looked ok in pictures and bought them, a few hours later the
>     seller said he didn't have them, that was a old listing that Ebay
>     had put back up accidentally.
>     >
>     >  There are a few other listings, some missing parts and one
>     saying many moveable parts are stuck, well that is what was wrong
>     with a set a carbs i got from a friend, everything stuck and too
>     badly corroded to ever work again...major pits in venturi area by
>     the butterflies on one and pistons on both...way too bad for a
>     rebuild.
>     >
>     >  There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a 1098cc
>     motor but they are not AUD 136's so I am not sure what will and
>     will not work, they all kind of look the same to me, I just know
>     my motor had AUD 136t's originally.
>     >
>     >  Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with nothing
>     frozen and a decent throttle shaft since I don't have the ability
>     to ream and put bushings in (although i know there are o-ring
>     shafts now that may solve that problem).
>     >
>     >  I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it fits,
>     it does not have the port for the PCV valve which I think is
>     correct for 1098, this is not a show car, I just want a good
>     driver.   I have seen that Mo$$ has new ones...yike$ and there is
>     a advantage to that since I would not need to buy a rebuild kit.
>     >
>     >      Mike
>     >
>     > --
>     > A gun is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have it,
>     > you'll probably never need one again.
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">  I agree that a single HIF is probably
      the best way to go BUT this is not going into a Spridget or Mini
      and I just don't have the clearance.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> I tried the HIF that we took off my
      son-in-law's MkI Mini that has a 1275 in it and no there was no
      room on the side for it.  People in the UK that have done this
      engine swap have said, there is barely enough room for some
      pancake filters and others have said you have to use what I call
      the little rock guard that is not really a filter.  I have cut the
      engines front plate to move the engine over as far as I can and
      center it in the chassis and also keep the driveshaft pretty
      straight,  but it will still be tight.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> My Son-in-law's twin SU's from his
      Mini look like they will fit, I am still "fiddling" with the body
      and engine mounts so have some play room.  With a HIF I will have
      to bump out the hood sides right where there are some louvers.  <br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"> Its all going into a 1934 Singer Le
      Mans.  This is engine swap that while not common, has been done
      quite a bit in the UK.<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">    <br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">    mike<br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix"><br>
    </div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">  On 9/13/2022 7:09 AM, Derf wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAEAAx7-ZutoKsptPV9M2A7LKXFr_+QA12PywFAb8CM83hy=Y3w@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="ltr">For a driver a single HIF is really hard to beat.  </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 9:03
          AM Rick Fisk via Spridgets &lt;<a
            href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi
          Mike,<br>
          <br>
          I don't have a spare set of carbs to sell, but wanted to pass
          on some carb info based on my experiences with SU carbs.  The
          HS2's are all pretty similar and any will work no matter what
          the AUD number.  Worn throttle shafts can be fixed 99% of the
          time by simply replacing the throttle shaft.  The carb body
          itself does not wear out, only the shaft.  So no worries about
          installing bushings.  I buy carb rebuild kits from MiniSpares
          in England for considerably less than what the guys here in
          the US sell them for.  The kits genuine SU parts and are very
          complete with new throttle shafts, throttle plates, etc. 
          Shipping is very fast and not too expensive.  They use DHL
          Express for shipping and stuff ordered from them usually
          arrives in 3-4 days rather than the 7-10 days when ordering
          from Moss.<br>
          <br>
          Rick<br>
          <br>
          &gt; On Sep 13, 2022, at 1:27 AM, Mike Rambour via Spridgets
          &lt;<a href="mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
            moz-do-not-send="true" 
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;   So I am poking around for SU AUD 136 carbs to fit my
          1098 junkyard motor that came with no carbs.  I found some on
          Ebay that looked ok in pictures and bought them, a few hours
          later the seller said he didn't have them, that was a old
          listing that Ebay had put back up accidentally.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  There are a few other listings, some missing parts and
          one saying many moveable parts are stuck, well that is what
          was wrong with a set a carbs i got from a friend, everything
          stuck and too badly corroded to ever work again...major pits
          in venturi area by the butterflies on one and pistons on
          both...way too bad for a rebuild.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  There are some on ebay that claim to be rebuilt for a
          1098cc motor but they are not AUD 136's so I am not sure what
          will and will not work, they all kind of look the same to me,
          I just know my motor had AUD 136t's originally.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  Anyone have a set to sell ? ideally something with
          nothing frozen and a decent throttle shaft since I don't have
          the ability to ream and put bushings in (although i know there
          are o-ring shafts now that may solve that problem).<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;  I do have a manifold, not sure its the right one but it
          fits, it does not have the port for the PCV valve which I
          think is correct for 1098, this is not a show car, I just want
          a good driver.   I have seen that Mo$$ has new ones...yike$
          and there is a advantage to that since I would not need to buy
          a rebuild kit.<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt;      Mike<br>
          &gt; <br>
          &gt; -- <br>
          &gt; A gun is like a parachute, if you need one but don't have
          it,<br>
          &gt; you'll probably never need one again.<br>
          &gt; <br>
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