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RE: GIRLING BRAKE FLUID

To: "Richard Atherton (Entex)" <a-richat@MICROSOFT.com>, CMeinel464@aol.com,
Subject: RE: GIRLING BRAKE FLUID
From: richards@northcoast.com
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 1997 00:39:58 -0700
I rebuilt my 65 Tiger's wheel cylinders, calipers, and master cylinder and then 
used silicone fluid.  Nothing but trouble free braking followed.  British 
rubber 
seems to enjoy silcone and any drips onto the paint are not a disaster.

Regards-Chris

On Thu, 7 Aug 1997, "Richard Atherton (Entex)" <a-richat@MICROSOFT.com> wrote:
>       Are ye new to the old British Car world? (See second paragraph
>before flame!)  Girling brake and clutch systems required ONLY the
>Castrol GT-LMA brake fluids.  If you change ALL of the seals, piston
>cups, and hoses (hoses should be included as the rubber will absorb a
>bit of the fuild), and completely clean the internals of the the system
>with Brake clean, lacquer thinner, or equivalent, then, and ONLY then
>can you use a different fluid.
>       This is MY understanding of this issue.  Having owned a 65
>Alpine, 56 Imp, and supported my dads 64 Jag E-Type, and 76 XJ-6, all of
>these cars have used ONLY the GT-LMA fluid.  Back in the late seventies
>when this stuff was hard to find for a while, we would buy 4 or 5 cans
>at a time, when we would see it.  Any other fluid would instantly begin
>to break down the seals, leading to a presure failure, just when you
>don't want one.
>       If there is a new fluid that can be mixed with GT-LMA, I'm not
>aware of it, and the note below only mentions Lucas's new fluid with
>5.1.  Rather than Gamble, I will stick with the original even though it
>absorbs water like a sponge in the desert.
>
>Like I said, this is MY understanding of the brake fluid issue.  I could
>be wrong on the new stuff.
>
>Rich
>
>
>> ----------
>> From:        brockctella@juno.com[SMTP:brockctella@juno.com]
>> Reply To:    brockctella@juno.com
>> Sent:        Wednesday, August 06, 1997 2:28 PM
>> To:  CMeinel464@aol.com
>> Cc:  ALPINE@autox.team.net; TIGERS@autox.team.net
>> Subject:     Re: GIRLING BRAKE FLUID
>> 
>> I believe any DOT 4 or 5.1not 5.0 can be used.
>> On Wed, 6 Aug 1997 16:43:25 -0400 (EDT) CMeinel464@aol.com writes:
>> >FELLOW ALPINE & TIGER OWNERS,
>> >
>> >RECENTLY LUCAS PURCHASED THE RIGHTS TO MARKET CASTROL BRAKE FLUIDS.  
>> >LUCAS
>> >NOW MARKETS FOUR DIFFERENT BRAKE FLUIDS AND SOME CONFUSION AS TO WHAT
>> 
>> >SHOULD
>> >BE USED IN OUT ALPINES AND TIGERS HAS SURFACED.
>> >
>> >AFTER CONSULTING THE LUCAS TECH PEOPLE, I CAN REPORT THE FOLLOWING:
>> >THE DIRECT REPLACEMENT TO OUR OLD CASTROL GT (LMA BRAKE FLUID) IS THE
>> >LUCAS/GIRLING UNIVERSAL BRAKE FLUID, PART # PBF 425 ( 5 LITERS) OR 
>> >PFB450 (10
>> >LITERS).
>> >LUCAS ALSO HAS A DOT 5.1 FLUID THAT MIXES SAFELY WITH THE DOT 4
>> ABOVE. 
>> > THE
>> >PART NUMBERS FOR THESE ARE PBF525 (5 LITERS) AND PFB550 (10 LITERS).
>> >
>> >UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD ALPINE AND TIGER OWNERS USE LUCAS 
>> >MINERAL
>> >OIL-LHM OR LUCAS PREMUIM MINERAL OIL,  PART NUMBERS PFM201 AND
>> PFM701. 
>> > THESE
>> >FLUIDS WILL SOFTEN ALL SEALS AND MAY CAUSE BRAKE AND CLUTCH FAILURE.
>> >
>> >BEST REGARDS,
>> >CURT
>> >CLASSIC SUNBEAM
>> >
>> >
>> 
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