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Re: HEY TAC while your looking. Alpine Conversion ID's

To: "Parlee, Brad (ED&C,SLS)" <brad.parlee@edc.ge.com>
Subject: Re: HEY TAC while your looking. Alpine Conversion ID's
From: "Rich Atherton" <gumby@connectexpress.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Jul 1998 06:32:24 -0700
Exactly.  These plates would rivited with approved rivets from the sanction
organization, to maybe near the standard ID plate or perhaps on the firewall in
a visible place.  i really think this would be a great idea....One whos time is
long overdue...Can anyone think of a reason NOT to do this, ohter than trying to
pass off a converted Alpine as a real Tiger? For my own project, I intend to
display the car as a Alpine V-8 as the Tigers were known in England for a while.
but it will not say Tiger, I wouldn't want it too.  I think ( my opinion of
course) that it will be better when ever I get back on this project...

rich

-----Original Message-----
From: Parlee, Brad (ED&C,SLS) <brad.parlee@edc.ge.com>


>The below response is perfect,  The trick now would be to put it on so it
>doesn't get lost if the car changes hands.  Really strong glue and/or Mark
>the x-mission tunnel in a standard spot.
>
>How about it TAC, CAT,  Sunbeam Specialties, Classic Sunbeam, or Tiger Tom-
>if people really took to building Algers it would be a boom to business.  We
>good resolve one of the most ugly topics on the list with a recommended
>procedure and create a new class with a lower cost of entry.
>
>
>> ----------
>> From: Rich Atherton[SMTP:gumby@connectexpress.com]
>>     Well, the Tiger has the JAL plate (Jensen Assembly Line), perhaps the
>> Alpine Conversions could have a OCA (Owner Custom Assembly), or APC
>> (Alpine Performance Conversion).  personally, I like the APC plate idea.
>> It's non-specific, and obviously, and modification is going to be done to
>> aid in the performance of the car in some way.  I know someone out there
>> works at some place the does engraving  or at least that's where their web
>> page is..Anyway,  I would suggest that these plates be designed as
>> follows....(Display this message in fixed sys font for my text art work.
>>
>> /----------------------------------------------------\
>> |                                                    |
>> |              Alpine Perfomance Conversion          |
>> |    "S"                                             |
>> |              APC DATE  __/__/____                  |
>> |              APC REGISTRATION # __________________ |
>> |              APC BUILDER _________________________ |
>> |                                                    |
>> |                                                    |
>> | CONVERSION COMPONENTS:                             |
>> | ENGINE: __________________________________________ |
>> | BORE: _____ STROKE: _____ Compression Ratio: _____ |
>> | FIRING ORDER: __________ TIMING: _________________ |
>> | TRANSMISSION: ____________________________________ |
>> | STEERING: ________________________________________ |
>> | FRONT SUSPENSION: ________________________________ |
>> | REAR SUSPENSION: _________________________________ |
>> | REAR AXLE/DIFFERENTIAL: __________________________ |
>> | BRAKES: __________________________________________ |
>> | OTHER: ___________________________________________ |
>> |        ___________________________________________ |
>> |        ___________________________________________ |
>> |                                                    |
>> | CONTACT "organization" FOR COMPLETE DETAILS AND    |
>> | ASSEMBLY PROCEDURES FOR THIS ALPINE PERFORMANCE    |
>> | CONVERSION, OR IF ANY CHANGES ARE MADE.            |
>> \----------------------------------------------------/
>>
>>
>> OK, well there it is.  For my future car, the Engine would read "63 BUICK
>> 215 V-8, 65 BUICK 300 Heads" Bore 3.5" Stroke 2.8", etc....
>>
>> The "S" at the top represents where the Sunbeam Emblem would be silk
>> screened on to this plate.  This plate would be shiny Aluminum ID plate
>> style, with black lettering on bare aluminum background, and the areas for
>> the information would be bare aluminum as well, all other areas would be
>> black.  A color Sunbeam emblem would be very cool, but probably too
>> expensive.
>>
>> Some organization like CAT, TE/AE, PTC, or even TAC would keep the records
>> of these plates, and would do the issueing.  And would keep records so
>> anyone interested in buying on of these cars could simply make a call, and
>> receive a fax of the complete details of the conversion, including
>> ALLmajor components used.  This would include anything that was not a
>> stock component, or not a stock component of the larger component.  For
>> instance...I I chose to go with a roller rocker set in my BUICK 215, that
>> would have to be listed in the complete details, but not on the plate.
>> Although, if I used a solid lifter cam, the Valve clearances should be
>> listed on the plate under "OTHER" to allow normal rutine maintenance.
>> These detailed records shuld include EVERYTHING that was changed on the
>> car...other than replacing defective original equipment with working
>> version of the same...Like replacing a bad tach for a good one but it's
>> still a original Sunbeam Alpine guage.  Might want to include the cars
>> serial number on the plate and in the records because the plate's
>> registration number goes with the car.  The permanent details on record
>> will not be modified, but only ammended to, so there will be a traveling
>> history of changes for any one car.  I think the Barnets (sp) record will
>> be the size of "war and peace".   8-)
>>
>> What does everyoe think of this idea?  I like it, and would use for my own
>> conversion when I get to it.  It will also be a FANTASTIC record of things
>> that work, and things that don't.  Pictures "Should accompany the
>> records......I think that this would be great.    Any comments?
>>
>>
>>
>> >If I built an Alger I would want some way to "mark" the car in a
>> standard,
>> >permanent, and definitive way.  A "mark" that would clear my conscious
>> and
>> >tell the world that when it comes to the value of my car; THIS IS AN
>> ALPINE
>> >CONVERSION!  If we made the means of "marking" the cars available at no
>> >charge through the clubs at least we could have people build Algers and
>> not
>> >feel bad about it - or wonder if it will someday be passed off as a
>> Tiger.
>> >
>> >Brad in Florida
>>


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