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To: Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com
Subject: Re: Physics
From: Steve Laifman <Laifman@flash.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 16:55:01 -0700
Jay_Laifman@countrywide.com wrote:

> I have a question here because I don't understand Carl's final point.
>

<snip> <snip>

>
>
> FINDINGS:
> During constant acceleration a force (energy) of 17.468 foot pounds/second
> is generated to accelerate (LOOSTEN) the knockoff on the hub.
> During constant deceleration (braking) a force (energy) of 51.137 foot
> pounds/second is generated to accelerate (TIGHTEN) the knockoff on the hub.
>
> These forces should remain constant until the mechanical drag of the
> metal/metal surfaces of the wheel and knockoff PLUS the hub to knockoff
> overcame the Kinetic Energy of the knockoff and prevented further
> loostening
> or tightening.
>
> HERE IS WHAT I WROTE BACK:
>
> > Carl wrote:
> >
> > >FINDINGS:
> > >During constant acceleration a force (energy) of
> > >17.468 foot pounds/second is generated to accelerate
> > >(LOOSTEN) the knockoff on the hub.
> > >During constant deceleration (braking) a force (energy)
> > >of 51.137 foot pounds/second is generated to accelerate
> > >(TIGHTEN) the knockoff on the hub.
>

<more snips> just to give newcomers a feel for this.  What has been snipped is
even more esoteric.

>
> HERE IS WHAT CARL JUST WROTE BACK:
>
> Jay,
> That's what seems logical. However, in another fit of rage, Ole Newton said
> to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Thus, the effect
> of
> acceleration/deceleration upon the mass of the knockoff ears would tighten
> during deceleration and loosen during acceleration.
>
> I'm sure there are other factors involved...... someone put something out
> about thread pitch and taper. Not being a mechanical engineer I can't
> comment further.
>
> A similar, but unrelated subject: how can a train car turn corners without
> skidding when the wheels and axle are a solid, single unit? (I know the
> answer but I'm gonna make you sweat!!!!).
>
> FINALLY,
>
> What I don't understand is how the equal and opposite reactions changes
> that.  For, if there is a reaction forward with the wheel, why isn't the
> opposite reaction the knockoff going the other way?  But, even saying that,
> I'm not sure I understand where the forces are that are going opposite
> here.
>
> And, no, I have not figured out his solid axle comment yet.  Either the
> wheels are not connected to the axle, or maybe the inside wheel spin or the
> outside wheel drags.  Or, none of the above.  I'll think about it for a
> while when my headache goes away.
>
> Jay





Jay,

This exchange must have been private, or on the Alpines list, as it's the
first I've seen of it.

I am not really sure which parts of that knock-off letter you wrote, but that
is some pretty serious fundamental physics you are getting into, and I am
pleasantly surprised you are discussing things at that level.  Must have a
pretty good memory, unlike me.

I, by the way, am still trying to figure out what "Undo-Offside" means  {9->
Does that mean I should find a stamping saying "Do-Onside" on the other side?
And which side is the "off side" if the steering wheel is on a different side,
as well as the road?

And further compounding the confusion, despite the fictional urban legend of a
Policeman directing traffic was clipped by a knock-off, causing every
beautiful winged center to be changed, why did EVERYBODY use the MG Marque
symbol for their center-lock?

That ought to allow some of the others to get in on this.  {9->

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