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Re: Toploader questions

To: Tom Hall <modtiger@engravers.com>
Subject: Re: Toploader questions
From: Bruce McGuire <CV_Bruce@pacbell.net>
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 20:10:08 -0800
Ok guys,
According to the toploader ID chart on David Kees website,
www.4speedtoploaders.com, the ID tag HEH-M is from a 1964 Falcon, 289-2V, wide
ratio.

Bruce McGuire

Tom Hall wrote:

> At 10:16 PM 10/29/00 -0600, you wrote:
> >Listers,
> >I obtained another toploader transmission but I am not really sure what I
> >have. I measured the one in my Tiger and it is the original HEH-E tranny and
> >the tail-shaft section to the edge of the yoke seal is 15 and ½ inches. The
> >tranny I obtained is a HEH-M Trans with both bolt patterns and with the rear
> >section being only 14inches long. I thought the Tiger had the shortest
> >tail-shaft section?
> >Regardless I needed the front bearing/seal support to fit in the new 6 Bolt
> >bellhousing that mates up to the 5.0 HO block I am using.
> >
> >My Question is: this case is a dual bolt pattern case and I would like to go
> >through it and prep it for the Tiger. Can I swap the tailshafts after or do
> >I need to do it as part of the rebuild. If I do does anyone have a spare
> >Tailshaft and the Tailshaft housing required to build it while I still drive
> >my car? I am hoping that this is the wide ratio trans with the lower first
> >gear....can anyone confirm that. It has been gone through and looks nice and
> >clean but one of the gears dog teeth are missing and I want to ensure that
> >this thing is Mint and a wide ratio box like the HEH-B.
>
> The easiest way to tell if the toploader is a "wide ratio" is to remove the
> top and examine the input gear.  In the wide ratio transmission, this input
> gear is smaller in diameter than the syncro portion at the rear of this
> gear.  The close ratio input gear is just about the same size as the
> syncro.  The other possibility is that it will have a "short" nose (.800")
> as opposed to the 1.125" nose on all smallblock transmissions.  This short
> nose gear from big block applications can be used but it will require a
> special pilot bearing that is longer than the OEM unit.
>
> Tom


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