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Re: 1966 Sunbeam Tiger-item #2480293234

To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 1966 Sunbeam Tiger-item #2480293234
From: Steve Laifman <SLaifman@socal.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2004 11:52:04 -0700
Chad,

I want to thank you for your quick reply to our group's concern over 
authenticity.  It is certainly possible that a real Tiger could have had 
the observed "Alpine" features added during a rebuild, or for personal 
reasons.  Our groups attention was directed at the observed, but 
unexplained, "Alpine Conversion" clues.  I also thank you for "copying" 
the list, as well as the extra ordinary modification to the auction 
listing itself.

This shows a careful consideration of the issues, and the concern to 
assure both bidders, and the Tiger community, that their concerns and 
observations of the "tell-tale" signs of typical "conversions" were 
mistaken in this case.

Speaking for myself, and hopefully for the community, we welcome your 
attention to our group concerns, and the positive steps you took to 
resolve them.  Would there but be more eBay sellers with as much 
interest and integrity. A site NOT well regarded for attention to 
misleading bidders by not having a way of getting issues like this 
resolved.  It is only thru your listing of your personal contact that 
this could be resolved.

Our thanks, and appreciation, and best wishes,


Steve Laifman
Editor
htttp://www.TigersUnited.com


Chad Slagter wrote:

> Hey Steve,
>
> I can't tell you how much I appreciate your interest in my Sunbeam 
> Tiger and the time you must have spent to help make me aware of some 
> of the items. Here are answers to your previous email. First of all, I 
> would like to you to be aware that this is a TRUE TIGER with a couple 
> of the restoration items done the owner's own specifications. The 
> collector who traded this Tiger in here gave me the California 
> Association Of Tiger Owners 1996 Membership Roster. The man he 
> purchased the car from was registered there and had the car registered 
> with that membership roster also. To answer many of your points, when 
> the vehicle's restoration was done by the collector here, he had the 
> trunk converted over to an Alpine pan. He choose the Alpine floor over 
> the original Tiger floor pan because of the availability and also 
> giving more room in the trunk. He also relocated the battery to make 
> more room and the install a battery shut off switch. This 
> transformation moved the battery, filled the mounting holes for the 
> secondary trunk floor, filled the jack mounting holes, moved the spare 
> into a vertical position, filled the mounting holes for the sub floor 
> strap brackets. The stock windshield bottle hardware was done away 
> with also in the restoration by the collector here simply because he 
> did not want it. The speedometer was changed out to a 120 MPH 
> speedometer because the original speedometer is no longer working 
> properly. I have the original speedometer available if you like. In 
> the listing, under the title portion, it says 'Clear (most titles)'. 
> That is an eBay default. As a seller listing a car through eBay, you 
> only have 3 choices for the title status: Other, Salvage, and Clear 
> (most titles). The words 'most titles' are put in there by eBay to let 
> the people know who are listing their cars that most titles are clear 
> (see other car auctions). The shifter was replaced with a Hurst 
> shifter when the motor was upgraded to the 302 V8. I listed it as 
> having leather and that was my mistake. I cannot verify whether it has 
> true leather or the simulated leather that most interior restorations 
> are done with now. The build date was indeed December of 1964. The 
> title states 1966 because the car was not purchased until 1966 by the 
> first owner. The VIN plate rivets are different because the plate was 
> removed and replaced during the restoration. The exhaust is 
> aftermarket, and I do have the original available also. The rack and 
> pinion was also changed out with the new motor because it was 
> operating incorrectly.
>
>  
>
> Once again, I greatly thank you for your time and interest, and only 
> ask that you give this reply the same time and attention that you gave 
> the original auction before you knew that you were looking at a true 
> Tiger.
>
>  
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Chad Slagter





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