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RE: Wally Swift

To: <CoolVT@aol.com>, <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: Wally Swift
From: " Ron Fraser" <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2006 12:25:08 -0400
Mark
  Here's Wally's quote from 1998. ("British  Car") "The engine we put in the
Tiger was from Ford's Industrial  Division. It was a heavy duty engine and
different from the 260 you got over 


        It took a bit of research for this one.

1963 -  Ford is producing the 289 engine; the 289 casting is beefier and
better casting than the 1962, 221/ 260 casting; there are a number of
differences between these castings.

Somewhere in this time frame, Ford decides to use the beefier casting of the
289 for the 260 engine; this is a design update, a cost reduction and
inventory reduction move.

The 260 engine and the 289 engine now have common parts and inventory;
however since this is Thin Wall casting the 260 can't be bored to 289 cu in.

There is very little information available about Ford's Industrial Division.
Is it possible they upped the strength of the casting and the assembly; its
possible but I believe it would only be marginal.  They have to report cost
and profit margins like all the other Divisions.

I think the main point here is that the later 260 casting, used in the
Tigers, is the beefier and stronger 289 style casting.   The 260 engine in
the Tiger is definitely a stronger block than the original 221/ 260 casting.

It would definitely be interesting to compare a later 260 casting to a 289
casting to see if there are any noticeable differences.

Reference sources:

Mustang and Ford Small Block V8, by Bob Mannel

Ford Engine Parts Interchange, by George Reid   This is a very good
reference book with Casting numbers and Ford part numbers for both small
block and big block Ford engines.  I have noted a few misprints but that is
not unusual and its why we collect more than one reference book.

Ron Fraser


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Subject: Wally Swift


My last quote from Wally Swift gave us something to think about. It  seems
we 
can conclude that Wally was right, the Tiger production ended because  of 
Federal safety regulations. However, if the car had been selling a ton,
Chrysler 
would have found a way to do it.  So, lack of sales was probably  behind the

whole thing.
 
Now another from Wally. I believe it has been said many times that  the Ford

provided from the Tiger was from Fords' industrial division, but was  the
same 
as other 260's.  Here's Wally's quote from 1998. ("British  Car") "The
engine we put in the Tiger was from Ford's Industrial  Division. It was 
a heavy duty engine and different from the 260 you got over  here.  Changes
to 
the webbing in the block made it stronger than a 260 you  got in a Mustang, 
for example.  The casting was different and made it a  stronger block.  That

was normal for the automotive industry when exporting  engines because they
were 
beyond factory's control. They cost more because more  went into them."
So????????? Mark L.


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