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Re: [Tigers] Tiger Today

To: Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com>, "Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)" <mark.rense@ge.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Today
From: "Teepen, Jere" <jteepen@usatoday.com>
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2013 19:41:55 -0400
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Any idea about the condition or age of the starter?  A starter that is not
working optimally can perform poorly when hot and it will cause the symptoms
you described.

-----Original Message-----
From: tigers-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Jay Laifman
Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 2:31 PM
To: Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light)
Cc: Tiger's Den
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger Today

Yep, that's the carb and manifold - don't remember the CFM.  I can add the
switch.  In fact, I did exactly that on my Alpine - using the useless Panel
light switch.  Actually I swapped in a headlight switch because it is rated
for higher power.

I have been meaning to check out the spark plugs - as adverturous as that
apparently sounds.  So, perhaps I'll do that and check the timing first.

Thanks.

Jay


On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:18 PM, Rense, Mark (GE, Appl & Light) <
mark.rense@ge.com> wrote:

> Jay,
> If I remember  correctly, your car has a smaller Holley 4BBL (465
> CFM?) on top of a F4B manifold. I have also had hot start problems
> using a similar setup  on one of my cars. When attempting to re-start
> after the hot car sits for a few minutes the engine only spins, and
> when it finally does start it feels like it is loaded up or the choke
> is on. In my case this was caused by the fuel boiling in the bowls,
> the pressure builds up and the fuel overflows into the carb, loading
> up the engine. I tried heat shields and thicker gaskets but there is
> no head room with the F4B so you cannot use a decent phenolic
> insulator. I fixed this by installing a toggle switch under the dash
> for the pump, and I shut off the pump a minute or so before I park the
> car. When I come back I switch the pump back on, turn the key to prime
> the carb for a couple seconds, and the car starts right up with fresh
> cool (ish) fuel flowing into the bowls. The "secret" switch also makes a
great theft deterrent.
>
> It's easy to try, there should be a connector of some type or a fuse
> in your fuel pump's circuit. Get your car hot and disconnect the power
> to the pump for a minute before you shut off the engine. Wait about 15
> minutes then reconnect the pump, turn the key to let it prime for a
> couple seconds then see if the engine starts easily. If there is no
> change in its behavior then it's probably timing/spark issues.
> Bugz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jay Laifman
> Sent: Monday, August 05, 2013 11:30 AM
> To: Tiger's Den
> Subject: [Tigers] Tiger Today
>
> ... I'll be back at you for hard hot starting issues later...
>
> Jay
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