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Re: [Tigers] FW: motorsport x 302 crate motor

To: "'Nick'" <scattt@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] FW: motorsport x 302 crate motor
From: Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2015 07:38:46 -0400
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Nick
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    I'm not familiar with crate engines but maybe this will give you =
some
ideas.
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Oil pressure on my 260 never drops below 40 psi.  Scuffing could be an
oiling issue.
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Is this a roller cam?
=20
Roller lifters tick a little when they start to go bad and just get =
louder
as they wear.  Again this could be an oiling issue.
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Ron Fraser

-----Original Message-----
From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Nick =
via
Tigers
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:40 PM
To: tigers@autox.team.net
Subject: [Tigers] FW: motorsport x 302 crate motor



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From: Nick [mailto:scattt@verizon.net]=20
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 8:03 PM
To: 'Andy Walker'
Subject: motorsport x 302 crate motor

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I am helping a friend with a Tiger we are reassembling after 10+ years =
of
being off the road. We purchased a 302/340hp engine from Ford Motorsport =
to
install in this application. We installed the engine without =
difficulties
with a front sump oil pan, new pickup and right angle oil filter from
motorsports.  It has a air gap manifold, 600cfm Edelbrock  and a =
pertronix
dizzy. The engine started and  broke in without issues but after about =
seven
miles on the road it developed a knock. Dropping the oil pan we =
discovered
the #2 piston was scuffed around the skirt. Sent it back and Ford =
replaced
with another block claiming they couldn't determine what the cause was.  =
The
new engine we had broken in by a local speed shop and dynoed.  It put =
out
320 Hp which we expected.  Reinstalled the engine and after about 20 =
miles
on the road it developed what sounds like a lifter tapping. With great
difficulty we removed the valve covers and started the engine.  =
Everything
on the top end looks and feels perfect but we still have the tapping. =
Put
the engine back together and installed another set of exhaust headers =
with
copper gaskets and the proper sealer thinking we possibly could have a
cracked header or leak. The problem persists and I am afraid we may find
another scuffed piston. The oil pressure has never dropped below 20# =
even at
idle.

Has anyone out there experienced a similar problem with these engines of
have a suggestion as to what our issues may be. ? The people at Ford
Motorsports are scratching their heads!

=20

Thanks,=20

Nick Kintner

Florida


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<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial>Nick</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT =
color=3D#0000ff=20
size=3D2 face=3DArial>I'm not familiar with crate engines but maybe this =
will give=20
you some ideas.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Oil=20
pressure on my 260 never drops below 40 psi.&nbsp; Scuffing could be an =
oiling=20
issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Is=20
this a roller cam?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Roller=20
lifters tick a little when they start to go bad and just get louder as =
they=20
wear.&nbsp; Again this could be an oiling issue.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2=20
face=3DArial></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D312483011-15042015><FONT color=3D#0000ff size=3D2 =
face=3DArial>Ron=20
Fraser</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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  face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Tigers=20
  [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Nick via=20
  Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:40 PM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
  tigers@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Tigers] FW: motorsport x 302 =
crate=20
  motor<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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  [mailto:scattt@verizon.net] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, April 13, 2015 =
8:03=20
  PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'Andy Walker'<BR><B>Subject:</B> motorsport x 302 =
crate=20
  motor<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
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#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">I am helping a =
friend with a=20
  Tiger we are reassembling after 10+ years of being off the road. We =
purchased=20
  a 302/340hp engine from Ford Motorsport to install in this =
application. We=20
  installed the engine without difficulties with a front sump oil pan, =
new=20
  pickup and right angle oil filter from motorsports.&nbsp; It has a air =
gap=20
  manifold, 600cfm Edelbrock &nbsp;and a pertronix dizzy. The engine =
started and=20
  &nbsp;broke in without issues but after about seven miles on the road =
it=20
  developed a knock. Dropping the oil pan we discovered the #2 piston =
was=20
  scuffed around the skirt. Sent it back and Ford replaced with another =
block=20
  claiming they couldn&#8217;t determine what the cause was. &nbsp;The =
new engine we=20
  had broken in by a local speed shop and dynoed. &nbsp;It put out 320 =
Hp which=20
  we expected. &nbsp;Reinstalled the engine and after about 20 miles on =
the road=20
  it developed what sounds like a lifter tapping. With great difficulty =
we=20
  removed the valve covers and started the engine.&nbsp; Everything on =
the top=20
  end looks and feels perfect but we still have the tapping. Put the =
engine back=20
  together and installed another set of exhaust headers with copper =
gaskets and=20
  the proper sealer thinking we possibly could have a cracked header or =
leak.=20
  The problem persists and I am afraid we may find another scuffed =
piston. The=20
  oil pressure has never dropped below 20# even at =
idle.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Has anyone out =
there=20
  experienced a similar problem with these engines of have a suggestion =
as to=20
  what our issues may be. ? The people at Ford Motorsports are =
scratching their=20
  heads!<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks, =
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Nick=20
  Kintner<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
  style=3D"COLOR: =
#1f497d">Florida<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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