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Re: [Tigers] Fw: Steering Rack

To: "Joel Martin" <jmartiniii@yahoo.com>, "Tiger List Serve" <tigers@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Fw: Steering Rack
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Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2016 10:13:03 -0700
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Depending how the tie rod ends are threaded onto the rack it might =
account for the problem.  Check and see if the exposed threaded area is =
relatively equal.  If not, what appears centered might not actually be. =
Your numbers still add up to 3 turns and I believe that is correct.  I =
doubt you could get an additional 1/2 turn with a stop issue as there =
are only so many rack teeth.
  Regardless of what the rack is doing stop wise, at the least you could =
turn the tie rod ends in opposing directions thus reducing turn =
capability in one direction, while adding in the other. This is what is =
done to correct the above problem.  It has been well over 15 years since =
I worked on my rack. Thus I don=E2=80=99t even recall the method of the =
rack stops. There are tension springs/sliders and if they became loose =
it might cause the pinion to slip on the rack??? Lastly, perhaps the =
rack was damaged and someone cut a portion off to expose the tie rod end =
to clean threads? This could account for the condition I mentioned =
above.  On my rack the rod end had actually been broken and someone hack =
welded an Alpine rod/tie rod on!

As far as I know the rack you need for Dale=E2=80=99s kit is the Older =
Midget rack with the thicker tie rod threads. The newer Midget rack has =
much smaller diameter tie rod ends (sadly I found out the hard way). Tom

From: Joel Martin via Tigers=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:20 AM
To: Tiger List Serve=20
Subject: [Tigers] Fw: Steering Rack






I am having some clearance issues with the passenger side wheel and tire =
when the wheel is turned all the way to the left.  Turned right the =
clearance on the drivers wheel is just right.  I am running 205/50/15 =
tires/wheels.

I have centered the rack multiple times to ensure correct and it is.

Steering wheel turn to left is 1.75 turns, stock 15" steering wheel.  =
Steering wheel to right is 1.25 turns.  I believe the internal stops are =
not working or are bad.  The wheel/tire hits on the passenger side sway =
bar bracket and the tie rod bolt when completely turned to the left.

Any ideas?

Can the steering rack stops be repaired or is it best to go with the MG =
Midget rack, which one? MGB Steering arms and Midget or MGB tire rod =
ends with Dale A's adapter kit?

Any help will be appreciated.

Regards
Joel Martin




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<DIV>Depending how the tie rod ends are threaded onto the rack it might =
account=20
for the problem.&nbsp; Check and see if the exposed threaded area is =
relatively=20
equal.&nbsp; If not, what appears centered might not actually be. Your =
numbers=20
still add up to 3 turns and I believe that is correct.&nbsp; I doubt you =
could=20
get an additional 1/2 turn with a stop issue as there are only so many =
rack=20
teeth.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp; Regardless of what the rack is doing stop wise, at the least =
you=20
could turn the tie rod ends in opposing directions thus reducing turn =
capability=20
in one direction, while adding in the other. This is what is done to =
correct the=20
above problem.&nbsp; It has been well over 15 years since I worked on my =
rack.=20
Thus I don=E2=80=99t even recall the method of the rack stops. There are =
tension=20
springs/sliders and if they became loose it might cause the pinion to =
slip on=20
the rack??? Lastly, perhaps the rack was damaged and someone cut a =
portion off=20
to expose the tie rod end to clean threads? This could account for the =
condition=20
I mentioned above.&nbsp; On my rack the rod end had actually been broken =
and=20
someone hack welded an Alpine rod/tie rod on!</DIV>
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<DIV>As far as I know the rack you need for Dale=E2=80=99s kit is the =
Older Midget rack=20
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diameter tie rod ends (sadly I found out the hard way). Tom</DIV>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 02, 2016 9:20 AM</DIV>
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some clearance issues with the passenger side wheel and tire when the =
wheel is=20
turned all the way to the left.&nbsp; Turned right the clearance on the =
drivers=20
wheel is just right.&nbsp; I am running 205/50/15 tires/wheels.</DIV>
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dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyiv4959560607yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1470142991733_21317 dir=3Dltr>I =
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centered the rack multiple times to ensure correct and it is.</DIV>
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dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
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dir=3Dltr>Steering=20
wheel turn to left is 1.75 turns, stock 15" steering wheel.&nbsp; =
Steering wheel=20
to right is 1.25 turns.&nbsp; I believe the internal stops are not =
working or=20
are bad.&nbsp; The wheel/tire hits on the passenger side sway bar =
bracket and=20
the tie rod bolt when completely turned to the left.</DIV>
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dir=3Dltr>Can the=20
steering rack stops be repaired or is it best to go with the MG Midget =
rack,=20
which one? MGB Steering arms and Midget or MGB tire rod ends with Dale =
A's=20
adapter kit?</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Any help will be appreciated.</DIV>
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<DIV dir=3Dltr>Regards</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>Joel=20
Martin<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><=
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