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Subject: Re: [Tigers] guage needle paint
From: CoolVT--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2016 11:05:46 -0400
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Think I told this story before.....a person I know worked in a factory run=
 =20
by BF Goodrich Aerospace many yrs. ago. She soldered and assembled parts=
 to=20
 gauges.  Her place in the assembly line was to solder a few parts, paint=
 =20
the needle and assemble her section of the gauge.  I asked what the needle=
 =20
paint was and she said she didn't know. It was just something in a little=
=20
bottle  and had a brush. She said the other people put one coat on the nee=
dle,=20
but she  liked to put on 3 coats to make it look nice:-)
 Someone reminded me that these gauges were most probably calibrated  afte=
r=20
final assembly and testing. But it seems funny when we worry about putting=
 =20
too much paint on our needles.  These gauges, being used in the  aerospace=
=20
industry, gauges that were assembled by workers who had to become  certifi=
ed=20
solderers (never knew that designation existed) , each worker having a =20
specific  task in the assembly and these gauges having to cost 10's of =20
thousands of $ each, just got a few dabs of some kind of red paint
=20
=20
In a message dated 9/10/2016 3:19:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, =20
tigers@autox.team.net writes:


Just make sure you don't put it on too thick. The extra weight of the =20
paint on the tach and speedo needles will affect the gauge calibration unl=
ess =20
you also go and tweak the counterweight location.=20


Cheers,
Theo

On Sep 9, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers <_tigers@autox.team.net_=
=20
(mailto:tigers@autox.team.net) >  wrote:




I tried several different paints and found Model Master  fluorescent red=
 #=20
FS28915 at a hobby store. It shades a little towards  orange and was a=20
perfect match to the color on the unfaded parts of my  needles.=20
Regards,
Joe Brown=20

On Sep 8, 2016 5:27 AM, "Ron Fraser via Tigers"  <_tigers@autox.team.net_=
=20
(mailto:tigers@autox.team.net) > wrote:


=20
Jim=20
NPD lists instrument gauge needle paint =E2=80=93 Red/Orange   BP-0001R=20
I have no idea  if it is a correct match =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s one of the=
 few places I=E2=80=99ve=20
seen it  listed=20
The Smiths  needle is florescent paint =E2=80=93 Testors =E2=80=93 Red Flo=
rescent paint=20
looks close  but I don=E2=80=99t know how close.=20
Ron  Fraser=20
=20
=20
From: Tigers  [mailto:_tigers-bounces@autox.tigers-b_=20
(mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net) ] On Behalf Of  Rollright--- via Ti=
gers
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016  2:47 PM
To: _tigers@autox.team.net_ (mailto:tigers@autox.team.net)=20
Subject: [Tigers] guage  needle paint

=20
Hello  all,
=20

=20
As  I've refurbished about half my gauges (or had others do it), a couple=
=20
of  them still have the original
=20
paint  on the needle.
=20

=20
May  I please have suggestions on where I can obtain matching orange/red=
=20
paint  for the gauge needles?
=20

=20
Regards  to all,
=20

=20

=20
Jim  Armstrong
382002083
Mk 1A
code 86
TAC #  0763



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<DIV>Think I told this story before.....a person I know worked in a factor=
y run=20
by BF Goodrich Aerospace many yrs. ago. She soldered and assembled parts=
 to=20
gauges.&nbsp; Her place in the assembly line was to solder a few parts, pa=
int=20
the needle and assemble her section of the gauge.&nbsp; I asked what the=
 needle=20
paint was and she said she didn't know. It was just something in a little=
 bottle=20
and had a brush. She said the other people put one coat on the needle, but=
 she=20
liked to put on 3 coats to make it look nice:-)</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;Someone reminded me that these gauges were most probably calibr=
ated=20
after final assembly and testing. But it seems funny when we worry about=
 putting=20
too much paint on our needles.&nbsp;&nbsp;These gauges, being used in the=
=20
aerospace industry, gauges that were assembled by workers who had to becom=
e=20
certified solderers (never knew that designation existed) , each worker ha=
ving a=20
specific&nbsp; task in the assembly and these gauges having to cost 10's=
 of=20
thousands of $ each, just got a few dabs of some kind of red paint<IMG=20
src=3D"http://cdn-cf.aol.com/se/smi/0201d201a5/08";></DIV>
<DIV><STRONG></STRONG>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>In a message dated 9/10/2016 3:19:41 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
tigers@autox.team.net writes:</DIV>
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  <DIV></DIV>
  <DIV>Just make sure you don't put it on too thick. The extra weight of=
 the=20
  paint on the tach and speedo needles will affect the gauge calibration=
 unless=20
  you also go and tweak the counterweight location.&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Cheers,</DIV>
  <DIV>Theo</DIV>
  <DIV><BR>On Sep 9, 2016, at 7:08 PM, Joe Brown via Tigers &lt;<A=20
  title=3Dmailto:tigers@autox.team.net=20
  href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</A>&gt;=20
  wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">
    <DIV>
    <P dir=3Dltr>I tried several different paints and found Model Master=
=20
    fluorescent red # FS28915 at a hobby store. It shades a little towards=
=20
    orange and was a perfect match to the color on the unfaded parts of my=
=20
    needles.</P>
    <P dir=3Dltr>Regards,<BR>Joe Brown</P>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_extra><BR>
    <DIV class=3Dgmail_quote>On Sep 8, 2016 5:27 AM, "Ron Fraser via Tiger=
s"=20
    &lt;<A title=3Dmailto:tigers@autox.team.net=20
    href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</A>&gt; wr=
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/U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;=20
      NPD lists instrument gauge needle paint =E2=80=93 Red/Orange&nbsp;=
=20
      BP-0001R<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><U></U>=
<U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>I have=
 no idea=20
      if it is a correct match =E2=80=93 it=E2=80=99s one of the few place=
s I=E2=80=99ve seen it=20
      listed<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><U></U>=
<U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>The Smi=
ths=20
      needle is florescent paint =E2=80=93 Testors =E2=80=93 Red Florescen=
t paint looks close=20
      but I don=E2=80=99t know how close.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><U></U>=
<U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>Ron=20
      Fraser<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'><U></U>=
<U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P>
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      style=3D"BORDER-TOP: #e1e1e1 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none;=
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G-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</=
SPAN></B><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Calibri",sans-serif'> Tigers=
=20
      [mailto:<A title=3Dmailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"=20
      target=3D_blank>tigers-bounces@autox.<WBR>team.net</A>] <B>On Behalf=
 Of=20
      </B>Rollright--- via Tigers<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, September 07,=
 2016=20
      2:47 PM<BR><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmailto:tigers@autox.team.net=20
      href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"=20
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      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'>Hello=20
      all,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'>As=20
      I've refurbished about half my gauges (or had others do it), a coupl=
e of=20
      them still have the original<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'>paint=20
      on the needle.<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'>May=20
      I please have suggestions on where I can obtain matching orange/red=
 paint=20
      for the gauge needles?<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'>Regards=20
      to all,<U></U><U></U></SPAN></P></DIV>
      <DIV>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
ack'><U></U><U></U></SPAN>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
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      <P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
      style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: bl=
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