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Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a =
zipper to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top. The =
entire design would have to be changed in order to properly support a =
zipper soft top. =20
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From: Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of michael =
king via Tigers
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 2:19 AM
To: Rob Hogan
Cc: Tiger's List
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic Window
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A big reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the =
shot of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear =
window and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the =
car.
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While some modern cars have split glass rear windows in the tops so the =
glass can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally needs to remain =
flat and not be forced into a small space when folded.
=20
You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out window like some MX5's =
(miata) or some other more modern convertibles.. but size, folding =
mechanism and likelihood of impact are main reasons they are not often =
used.
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On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
In a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on "Why =
Was This OK" in reference to the application of substandard plastic rear =
windows in convertible tops of almost every auto manufacturer except VW.
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As he explains: " No matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the =
car one of these plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the =
window would cloud up and get filthy and more and more opaque, until =
eventually it=E2=80=99d yellow and crack" and "But there=E2=80=99s also =
questions for the convertible-buying population of the time, =
specifically, why did anyone put up with this s***?"
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Having recently replaced my own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable =
top specifically because of a no longer transparent rear plastic window, =
I'd like to know if there is even the option of having the rear window =
replaced with a new glass or plastic window. I would have gladly paid =
extra for a top without a deficient plastic window.
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Doug Robbins (who designed the soft top for the Tiger) says adding a =
zipper to the current design would lead to wrinkles in the top.=C2=A0 =
The entire design would have to be changed in order to properly support =
a zipper soft top.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Tigers [mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>michael king via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 27, 2019 =
2:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> Rob Hogan<br><b>Cc:</b> Tiger's =
List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] Convertible Top's Plastic =
Window<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>A big =
reason that they all have plastic windows is quite obvious by the shot =
of the very early volks convertible... they have a VERY small rear =
window and the tops folded down like a pram sitting on the back of the =
car.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>While some modern cars have split glass rear windows =
in the tops so the glass can fold into a smaller space.. glass generally =
needs to remain flat and not be forced into a small space when =
folded.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>You could probably make a Sunbeam with a zip-out =
window like some MX5's (miata) or some other more modern convertibles.. =
but size, folding mechanism and likelihood of impact are main reasons =
they are not often used.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 17:12, Rob Hogan via Tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>In =
a Facebook Jalopnik article, author Jason Torchinsky expounds on =
"Why Was This OK" in reference to the application of =
substandard plastic rear windows in convertible tops of almost every =
auto manufacturer except VW.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>As he explains: " No =
matter how amazing or expensive or well-built the car one of these =
plastic windows was stuck on, sooner or later the window would cloud up =
and get filthy and more and more opaque, until eventually it=E2=80=99d =
yellow and crack" and "But there=E2=80=99s also questions for =
the convertible-buying population of the time, specifically, why did =
anyone put up with this s***?"<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>=
</div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Having recently replaced my =
own Tiger's convertible perfectly useable top specifically because of a =
no longer transparent rear plastic window, I'd like to know if there is =
even the option of having the rear window replaced with a new glass or =
plastic window. I would have gladly paid extra for a top without a =
deficient plastic window.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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