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From: Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2019 16:04:16 -0700
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In 1998 I was given a Datsun 510.  Being an Autocross car the previous owne=
r pulled the dash and tossed it. Thankfully he retained the VIN plate. The =
car had been off the road since 1982.  In 2002 I attempted to register the =
car (California). Because there was some doubt the DMV would even accept th=
e replacement dash (required for the VIN display), I drove the car to the D=
MV on the existing 20+ year old tires.  Thankfully it was only 1/2 mile awa=
y.  The tires were  C=E2=80=9350-13=E2=80=99s and if anyone is familiar wit=
h Caldwell tire in Pasadena, CA they were re-caps at that. Needless to say =
the compound was as hard as any forklift tire and grip was absolutely limit=
ed. So, no I would not consider the tires usable for anything other than sh=
ort distance, one time transport at a slow speed.

Thankfully I made it to the DMV and back (VIN accepted BTW) and I promptly =
replace the tires with 215-50-13 Sumitumo HTR 200=E2=80=99s. Unfortunately =
after putting but a few thousand miles on the tires the car has been on Non=
-Op status since 2008 (Ex-Autocross cars don=E2=80=99t make good daily driv=
ers). Three quarters of the tread still remains on these 17 year old tires =
and I see it as =E2=80=9Ccollateral damage=E2=80=9D to the wallet.

From: Rob Hogan via Tigers 
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:52 PM
To: Tiger's List 
Subject: [Tigers] Tiger's Tires

I'm one of those drivers that doesn't put more than a few hundred miles on =
my MR2 Spyder or will put on the Tiger each year.  I wonder if people with =
several infrequent use cars change all of their cars' tires every 10 years =
or less.  Realizing the danger of running old tires particularly at highway=
 speed, are 36 year old BFG TA tires even useable at speeds under 45 MPH?  =
I should have used the 235/50xR13's more before the Tiger's long layup.

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replace the tires with 215-50-13 Sumitumo HTR 200=E2=80=99s. =
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Realizing the=20
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