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To: Chris Thompson <chris@cthompson.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Tiger's Tires
From: Jay Laifman via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2019 07:12:17 -0700
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I do remember that, very explicitly.  Scared me quite a bit.  I remember
knowing the guy through the email list then, though I don't remember his
name now.  Quite sad.  I did not know there was a 60 Minutes episode.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:24 PM Chris Thompson via Tigers <
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Fender damage? I'm sure the old guys among us will remember the case of a
> Tiger owner returning from a show when his tire blew out. The wreck was
> disastrous. His passenger spent the rest of her life in a nursing home, I
> believe.  Lawsuits ensued. 60 Minutes got involved. End result of tens of
> millions of dollars of research and litigation resulted in a ruling that
> said any tire over 5 years old is the owners risk. And that risk can be
> great.
>
> Chris
>
> B382000331
> On 3/31/2019 7:11 PM, Rob Hogan via Tigers wrote:
>
> It was a dumb question when I knew the answer was never to take the chance
> on tires that old.  It does cause me pain to see tires with only 200 miles
> of wear go to the recycler especially when their size replacements are no
> longer available.  But that beats doing fender damage from a blowout.
>
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> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 6:16 PM steve wick <srwick@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> My cars don't get many miles a year as well, but some of those miles end
>> up being at freeway speeds. I figure I'd rather spend $500 on tires than
>> risk a $50,000 car or my body. I think the recommendation is change them
>> every 7 years, and that's what I do.
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Rob Hogan
>> via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:52 PM
>> *To:* Tiger's List
>> *Subject:* [Tigers] Tiger's Tires
>>
>> I'm one of those drivers that doesn't put more than a few hundred miles
>> on my MR2 Spyder or will put on the Tiger each year.  I wonder if people
>> with several infrequent use cars change all of their cars' tires every 10
>> years or less.  Realizing the danger of running old tires particularly at
>> highway speed, are 36 year old BFG TA tires even useable at speeds under 45
>> MPH?  I should have used the 235/50xR13's more before the Tiger's long
>> layup.
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I do remember that, very explicitly.=C2=A0 Scared me quite=
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h I don&#39;t remember his name now.=C2=A0 Quite sad.=C2=A0 I did not know =
there was a 60 Minutes episode.</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div di=
r=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 9:24 PM Chris Thomps=
on via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.tea=
m.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
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    <p>Fender damage? I&#39;m sure the old guys among us will remember the
      case of a Tiger owner returning from a show when his tire blew
      out. The wreck was disastrous. His passenger spent the rest of her
      life in a nursing home, I believe.=C2=A0 Lawsuits ensued. 60 Minutes
      got involved. End result of tens of millions of dollars of
      research and litigation resulted in a ruling that said any tire
      over 5 years old is the owners risk. And that risk can be great.</p>
    <p>Chris</p>
    <p>B382000331<br>
    </p>
    <div class=3D"gmail-m_5141471835132508537moz-cite-prefix">On 3/31/2019 =
7:11 PM, Rob Hogan via
      Tigers wrote:<br>
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        <div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-seri=
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          a dumb question when I knew the answer was never to take the
          chance on tires that old.=C2=A0 It does cause me pain to see tire=
s
          with only 200 miles of wear go to the recycler especially when
          their size replacements are no longer available.=C2=A0 But that
          beats doing fender damage from a blowout.</div>
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 6:16
          PM steve wick &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:srwick@hotmail.com"; target=3D=
"_blank">srwick@hotmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
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            <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">My
              cars don&#39;t get many miles a year as well, but some of
              those miles end up being at freeway speeds. I figure I&#39;d
              rather spend $500 on tires than risk a $50,000 car or my
              body. I think the recommendation is change them every 7
              years, and that&#39;s what I do.</div>
            <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br>
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            <div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-siz=
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ces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                  on behalf of Rob Hogan via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:t=
igers@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                  <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 31, 2019 12:52 PM<br>
                  <b>To:</b> Tiger&#39;s List<br>
                  <b>Subject:</b> [Tigers] Tiger&#39;s Tires</font>
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                    I&#39;m one of those drivers that doesn&#39;t put more =
than
                    a few hundred miles on my MR2 Spyder or will put on
                    the Tiger each year.=C2=A0 I wonder if people with
                    several infrequent use cars change all of their
                    cars&#39; tires every 10 years or less.=C2=A0 Realizing=
 the
                    danger of running old tires particularly at highway
                    speed, are 36 year old BFG TA tires even useable at
                    speeds under 45 MPH?=C2=A0 I should have used the
                    235/50xR13&#39;s more before the Tiger&#39;s long layup=
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