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Tony
Is this what you need?
https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-=
speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/
Paul
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Tony Lang via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net> w=
rote:
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> I have a couple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a s=
pring and steel plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowl=
edge were and or if I can purchase replacement parts?=20
> TIA... TonytheTiger
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> Tony Lang (TtT)
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> On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E23=E2=80=8E=
, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E55=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E=
02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers=
@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.
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> =20
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> The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a little weak.
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> Seems to me when I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for straig=
htness, rough edges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required
>=20
> Keeping all the working parts parallel is important
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> If using 2 spring washers for added spring force or adding an extra washer=
or shim keeps everything parallel then do that
>=20
> I remember stretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase t=
he spring force =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would do the same
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> Lube the working parts
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> =20
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> Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think I wen=
t through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1st time to set everything in place=
then rowed through the gears a couple of times then the 2nd alignment proce=
dure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight offset which I corrected and all w=
as well
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> =20
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> Some linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the part=
s that attach the shift rod to the shifter levers
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> I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.
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> If there were any instructions =E2=80=93 please share them with everyone.
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> =20
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> The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs=
=E2=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs
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> =20
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> Ron Fraser
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> =20
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> From: phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com>=20
> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM
> To: rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> =20
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> did it 5-6 years ago before my stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit eithe=
r from kee or toploader heaven....there are wave type washers i think that g=
ive a bit of extra spring....ie to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the lin=
kage with one or two extra...now if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right to=
3 with basically no help just push it in gear...kit had all new bushings,an=
d we made sure every thing was aligned right...i'll see if i can find the ol=
d box in the garage
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> it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business now....sorry
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> =20
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> To: phastphill <phastphill@aol.com>; Tigers <Tigers@embarqmail.com>
> Cc: tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>; rtscolgan <rtscolgan@yahoo.com>
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> Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm
> Subject: RE: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> Phastphill
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> I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99s catalog and I do not s=
ee any linkage kits, I only see shifters. May be I missed the parts you sp=
eak of.
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> =20
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> Do you have a part # for the kit you used?
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> Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do you have to ask for the k=
it you used?
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> Do you have more description of what you did to the stock shift linkage?
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> =20
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> Thanks
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> Ron Fraser
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> From: phastphill@aol.com <phastphill@aol.com>=20
> Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 12:20 PM
> To: Tigers@embarqmail.com; rfraser@bluefrog.com
> Cc: tigers@autox.team.net; rtscolgan@yahoo.com
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> =20
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> i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple of extra shi=
ms for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it is a stock t=
oploader...http://davidkeetoploaders.com/
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Seay via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: Ron Fraser <rfraser@bluefrog.com>
> Cc: Tiger Server <tigers@autox.team.net>; Russ and Tammy C. <rtscolgan@yah=
oo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> Russ,
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> =20
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> Ron is right. I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new. I re=
member sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear. Finally p=
ut it back into reverse and then back out and all was well. Follow everybod=
y's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will never c=
ompletely go away - it's the nature of the beast.
> --=20
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> Will - 382001570=20
> Tigers@embarqmail.com
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> =20
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> On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.n=
et> wrote:
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> Russ
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> I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and sometimes still happe=
ns.
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> The linkage is stuck in reverse gear position. If you put it back into r=
everse and carefully pull it out of reverse it should be OK. I found that w=
orked after getting under the Tiger a couple times to get it in a forward ge=
ar which is no fun at all.
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> =20
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> I believe this problem is all in the shifter mechanism.
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> =20
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> I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 year=
s ago, but here is a go at it.
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> I believe I took the shifter mechanism out =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 i=
nspected it - lubed it and I stretched the spring a little.
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> I also replaced the trunnion on the shifter.
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> Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the shifter linkage as req=
uired.
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> =20
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> That worked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter h=
ang up now.
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> =20
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> Hope this helps with your problem
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> Ron Fraser
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> =20
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> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Russ and Tammy C=
. via Tigers
> Sent: Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio
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> =20
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> After my recent engine rebuild I am having trouble with the tranny getti=
ng stuck in two gears. Not good. It occurs when trying to go forward after=
putting it in reverse It won't go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend=
something getting it back into the tunnel on replacing the motor? I didn't=
do anything to the tranny when out of the car. I did clean it up and repa=
int before re-entry. It was suggested that I cleaned it too good and it ne=
eded to be relubed on the rods and levers. That did seem to help but it sti=
ll gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting it back into rever=
se. That is the good news. I had to get under the car and hit the lever bef=
ore to pop it out of gear. The levers all line up where they should be un=
der the shifter. Fluid level is good. Is the fluid correct( valvoline gear=
oil--high performance 80-90w )? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Rus=
s rtscolgan@yahoo.com
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Tony<div>Is this what you need?</div><div><=
br><div><a href=3D"https://www.cjponyparts.com/scott-drake-shifter-rebuild-k=
it-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/">https://www.cjponyparts.com/sc=
ott-drake-shifter-rebuild-kit-without-bolts-4-speed-1965-1968/p/HW3273/</a><=
/div><div><br></div><div>Paul<br><br><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"l=
tr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Apr 24, 2019, at 9:47 A=
M, Tony Lang via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@=
autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div di=
r=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"ydp2d2eb197yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div>I have a co=
uple shifters Ive collected thru the years but I am missing a spring and ste=
el plug on at least two of the shifters. Does anyone have knowledge were and=
or if I can purchase replacement parts? </div><div>TIA... TonytheTiger=
</div><div><br></div><div class=3D"ydp2d2eb197signature"><div>Tony Lang (TtT=
)<var id=3D"ydp2d2eb197yui-ie-cursor"></var></div></div>
<div><br></div><div><br></div>
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</div><div class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyahoo_quoted" id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyahoo_=
quoted_6678972682">
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ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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On =E2=80=8ETuesday=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8EApril=E2=80=8E =E2=
=80=8E23=E2=80=8E, =E2=80=8E2019=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8E12=E2=80=8E:=E2=80=8E55=E2=
=80=8E:=E2=80=8E02=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8EPM=E2=80=8E =E2=80=8ECDT, Ron Fraser vi=
a Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net<=
/a>> wrote:
</div>
<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498"><div><div class=3D=
"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498M=
soNormal">Thank you for your update =E2=80=93 still good information.</p><p c=
lass=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal">The basics with the Ford shifter is that it can be a=
little weak.</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Seems to me w=
hen I worked my shifter; I inspected all the parts for straightness, rough e=
dges and wear =E2=80=93 repaired as required</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal">Keeping all the working parts parallel is important</p><p=
class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">If using 2 spring washers for a=
dded spring force or adding an extra washer or shim keeps everything paralle=
l then do that</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">I remember s=
tretching the big main spring on the shifter some to increase the spring for=
ce =E2=80=93 an extra washer or shim there would do the same</p><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Lube the working parts</p><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal">Install shifter and follow the alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I=
think I went through this procedure twice =E2=80=93 1<sup>st</sup> time to s=
et everything in place then rowed through the gears a couple of times then t=
he 2<sup>nd</sup> alignment procedure =E2=80=93 I think there was a slight o=
ffset which I corrected and all was well</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv585832=
7498MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Som=
e linkage parts are available =E2=80=93 C5ZZ-7285RPK =E2=80=93 the parts tha=
t attach the shift rod to the shifter levers</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m thinking the kit you used had more parts.</p>=
<p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">If there were any instruction=
s =E2=80=93 please share them with everyone.</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58=
58327498MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
>The gearshift lever has trunnion set =E2=80=93 2 steel plugs and 2 springs =E2=
=80=93 I stretched these 2 springs </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498M=
soNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal">Ron Fras=
er</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.com";>phastphi=
ll@aol.com</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.com";>phastphill@aol.com<=
/a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, April 23, 2019 11:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com";>rfraser@bluefrog.com</a><br><b>Subject:<=
/b> Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv=
5858327498MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorma=
l" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">did it 5-6 years ago before m=
y stroke so a bit fuzzy....it was a kit either from kee or toploader heaven.=
...there are wave type washers i think that give a bit of extra spring....ie=
to help going from 2 to 3 we shimmed the linkage with one or two extra...no=
w if i push shifter out of 2 it goes right to 3 with basically no help just p=
ush it in gear...kit had all new bushings,and we made sure every thing was a=
ligned right...i'll see if i can find the old box in the garage<br><br></spa=
n></p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:=
12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans=
-serif;color:black;">it was toploader heaven....seems to be out of business n=
ow....sorry</span></p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p><div><p class=3D"ydpc3=
16c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">--=
---Original Message-----<br>From: Ron Fraser <</span><a href=3D"mailto:rf=
raser@bluefrog.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">rfraser@bluefrog.com<=
/span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", san=
s-serif;color:black;">><br>To: phastphill <</span><a href=3D"mailto:ph=
astphill@aol.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">phastphill@aol.com</spa=
n></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;color:black;">>; Tigers <</span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">Tigers@embarqmail.com</span></a><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;colo=
r:black;">><br>Cc: tigers <</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:=
black;">>; rtscolgan <</span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolgan@yahoo.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family=
:"Arial", sans-serif;">rtscolgan@yahoo.com</span></a><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">&g=
t;</span></p><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-=
bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
;, sans-serif;color:black;"><br>Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2019 7:23 pm<br>Subject: R=
E: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyi=
v5858327498"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;col=
or:black;">Phastphill</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327=
498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
sans-serif;color:black;"> &n=
bsp; I looked through David Kee=E2=80=99=
s catalog and I do not see any linkage kits, I only see shifters.  =
; May be I missed the parts you speak of.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"y=
dpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p=
class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Do you have a part #=
for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv585832=
7498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
, sans-serif;color:black;">Is it still listed in the David Kee catalog or do=
you have to ask for the kit you used?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Do you have more description of w=
hat you did to the stock shift linkage?</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span></p></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Thanks </span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Ron Frase=
r</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bla=
ck;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-seri=
f;color:black;"> </span></p></div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498yq=
t73752"><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">From:=
</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"> </span><a href=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.com"; target=3D=
"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"=
Arial", sans-serif;">phastphill@aol.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-s=
ize:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> <</sp=
an><a href=3D"mailto:phastphill@aol.com"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">=
phastphill@aol.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, Apr=
il 20, 2019 12:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmai=
l.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">Tigers@embarqmail.com</span></a><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;colo=
r:black;">; </span><a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog.com"; target=3D"_blank"=
rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial&qu=
ot;, sans-serif;">rfraser@bluefrog.com</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"><br><b>Cc:</b> <=
/span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofo=
llow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">; </span><a href=3D"mailto=
:rtscolgan@yahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">rtscolgan@yahoo.com=
</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] top loader 4 speed w=
ide ratio</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;=
color:black;"> </span></p></div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><p=
class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;c=
olor:black;">i rebuilt my linkage with a kit from david kee...and a couple o=
f extra shims for a perfect 2-3 shift,people who drive it can't believe it i=
s a stock toploader...</span><a href=3D"http://davidkeetoploaders.com/"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial", sans-serif;">http://davidkeetoploaders.com/</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:=
black;"></span></p></div><div><div style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><p class=3D=
"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<b=
r>From: Will Seay via Tigers <</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:=
black;">><br>To: Ron Fraser <</span><a href=3D"mailto:rfraser@bluefrog=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">rfraser@bluefrog.com</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:=
black;">><br>Cc: Tiger Server <</span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;co=
lor:black;">>; Russ and Tammy C. <</span><a href=3D"mailto:rtscolgan@y=
ahoo.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt=
;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">rtscolgan@yahoo.com</span></a><=
span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;col=
or:black;">><br>Sent: Sat, Apr 20, 2019 11:08 am<br>Subject: Re: [Tigers]=
top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span></p></div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858=
327498"><div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNorm=
al"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-seri=
f;color:black;">Russ,</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c=
3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"=
;Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><=
div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Ron is right.=
I had the same problem when my Tiger was factory new. I remembe=
r sitting at an intersection and trying to get into 1st gear. Finally p=
ut it back into reverse and then back out and all was well. Follow eve=
rybody's advice about linkage alignment, but I think that the problem will n=
ever completely go away - it's the nature of the beast.<br>-- </span><s=
pan style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span>=
</p></div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:=
black;">Will - 382001570 <br></span><a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@embarqmail=
.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">Tigers@embarqmail.com</span></a><sp=
an style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span><=
/p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans=
-serif;color:black;"> </span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial&quo=
t;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div><div><div id=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv=
5858327498yqt39011"><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"=
><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;c=
olor:black;">On Fri, Apr 19, 2019 at 3:02 PM Ron Fraser via Tigers <</spa=
n><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;=
">tigers@autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">> wrote:</span><span style=3D=
"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></=
div><blockquote style=3D"border-width: medium medium medium 1pt; border-styl=
e: none none none solid; border-color: currentColor currentColor currentColo=
r rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt;">=
<div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black=
;">Russ</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color=
:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58583274=
98MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", s=
ans-serif;color:black;"> &nbs=
p; I believe I=E2=80=99ve been there and somet=
imes still happens.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans=
-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3c=
byiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"A=
rial", sans-serif;color:black;">The linkage is stuck in reverse gear po=
sition. If you put it back into reverse and carefully pull it ou=
t of reverse it should be OK. I found that worked after getting u=
nder the Tiger a couple times to get it in a forward gear which is no fun at=
all.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:b=
lack;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sa=
ns-serif;color:black;"> </span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">I believe this problem is all=
in the shifter mechanism.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial"=
;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span><span style=3D"font=
-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">I=E2=80=99=
m not exactly sure how I reduced this occurrence, it was 20 years ago, but h=
ere is a go at it.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-=
serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cb=
yiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:black;">I believe I took the shifter mechanism o=
ut =E2=80=93 cleaned it =E2=80=93 inspected it - lubed it and I stretched th=
e spring a little.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-=
serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cb=
yiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial", sans-serif;color:black;">I also replaced the trunnion on the shif=
ter.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", san=
s-serif;color:black;">Assemble the shifter =E2=80=93 check and adjust the sh=
ifter linkage as required.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial"=
;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
c316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span><span style=3D"font=
-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><=
div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-=
size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">That wor=
ked for me =E2=80=93 only once in a great while does the shifter hang up now=
.</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black=
;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoN=
ormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-s=
erif;color:black;"> </span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial"=
, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc=
316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">Hope this helps with your problem=
</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;=
"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-se=
rif;color:black;">Ron Fraser </span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;, sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"=
ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> </span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></di=
v><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-style: solid no=
ne none; border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentColor currentColor; padding=
: 3pt 0in 0in;"><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><b>=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;co=
lor:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quo=
t;Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> Tigers <</span><a href=3D"mailto=
:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;">tigers-bo=
unces@autox.team.net</span></a><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&=
quot;Arial", sans-serif;color:black;">> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Russ and=
Tammy C. via Tigers<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, April 19, 2019 12:42 PM<br><b>T=
o:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
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t;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"><br><b>Subject:</b=
> [Tigers] top loader 4 speed wide ratio</span><span style=3D"font-family:&q=
uot;Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"></span></p></div></div></div></div=
><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv5858327498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;"> =
</span><span style=3D"font-family:"Arial", sans-serif;color:black;=
"></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydpc316c3cbyiv58583=
27498MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial"=
;, sans-serif;color:black;">After my recent engine rebuild I am h=
aving trouble with the tranny getting stuck in two gears. Not good.&nb=
sp; It occurs when trying to go forward after putting it in reverse It won't=
go into any forward gear. Did I perhaps bend something getting it back into=
the tunnel on replacing the motor? I didn't do anything to the tranny=
when out of the car. I did clean it up and repaint before re-en=
try. It was suggested that I cleaned it too good and it needed t=
o be relubed on the rods and levers. That did seem to help but it stil=
l gets stuck on occasion and I can release it by putting it back into revers=
e. That is the good news. I had to get under the car and hit the lever=
before to pop it out of gear. The levers all line up where the=
y should be under the shifter. Fluid level is good. Is the fluid=
correct( valvoline gear oil--high performance 80-90w )? Any suggestio=
ns would be appreciated. Russ &nbs=
p; </span><a href=3D"mailto:=
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