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Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic: How to treat new cars
From: Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2019 10:51:53 -0700
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No smokey burnouts or drag racing for the first 2500 miles! Seriously =
though, new cars really don=E2=80=99t need breaking in. Have a great and =
safe trip.
JB

> On Jul 20, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> Hey Tigers,
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> I buy a new car every few years.  It's been a long time since any =
required or even advised the old break-in period (fast starts, hard =
breaking, driving over a certain rpm, etc).  The oil is infinitely =
better, and more importantly, the Japanese taught the American auto =
industry to get their machining tolerances down!
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> My $.02
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> Tym McDowell
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>> On July 20, 2019 at 9:01 AM Ron Fraser via Tigers =
<tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
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>> Stu
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>>                 I agree with Mark.   Drive it around for the next =
week to get use to how it drives and sounds; also make sure all the =
systems are working properly.
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>> I don=E2=80=99t think there is much to breaking in a new car these =
days or anything to worry about for that trip. =20
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>> You might want to check to see what the drive cycle is for the =
computer of that vehicle.
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>> When a Check engine light comes ON and the codes are cleared there is =
a drive cycle required for the computer to check all the sensors and =
monitors be happy.
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>> I know on some GM vehicles that drive cycle can be around 100 miles, =
yours could be different but you may want to get around 200 miles on the =
vehicle before taking that trip.=20
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>> There should not be a problem with this new of a vehicle but I think =
knowing the drive cycle is a good thing to know with any computer =
controlled vehicle these days.
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>> Have a safe and happy trip.
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>> Ron Fraser
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>> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of coolvt--- =
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>> Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2019 8:18 AM
>> To: sabre2tgr@gmail.com; Tigers@autox.team.net
>> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Off topic: How to treat new cars
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>> I think most of the owners' manuals still suggest driving them at =
varying speeds for the first few hundred miles.  If it was me, I'd try =
to take it out during the coming week and put a few miles on it. Of =
course, I tend to be a little fussy with cars=F0=9F=98=80 Mark L=20
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>> In a message dated 7/20/2019 7:36:04 AM Eastern Standard Time, =
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>> A question for the gearheads out there:  My wife's new Grand Cherokee =
sits in the driveway this morning with a grand total of 85 miles on the =
odometer.  Next weekend there's a trip planned that involves several =
hours pounding the interstates.=20
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>> IIRC in the old days they told us to be gentle with new cars until =
the engine was "broken in", a few hundred miles or whatever.  With with =
the GC there isn't much mention of anything like this.=20
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>> So what do you think?  With today's oils and clever design, is there =
anything to worry about for the long term?=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><font=
 size=3D"4" class=3D"">No smokey burnouts or drag racing for the first =
2500 miles! Seriously though, new cars really don=E2=80=99t need =
breaking in. Have a great and safe trip.</font><div class=3D""><font =
size=3D"4" class=3D"">JB<br class=3D""></font><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jul =
20, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Dr. T. Y. McDowell via Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><p =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
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font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" =
class=3D"">Hey Tigers,</p><p style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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text-decoration: none; font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D""><br class=3D""></p><p =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" =
class=3D"">I buy a new car every few years.&nbsp; It's been a long time =
since any required or even advised the old break-in period (fast starts, =
hard breaking, driving over a certain rpm, etc).&nbsp; The oil is =
infinitely better, and more importantly, the Japanese taught the =
American auto industry to get their machining tolerances down!</p><p =
style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: =
normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; =
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: =
auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" =
class=3D"">My $.02</p><p style=3D"font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: =
normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
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font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></p><p style=3D"font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
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text-decoration: none; font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, =
sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);" class=3D"">Tym McDowell</p><p =
class=3D"io-ox-signature" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
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normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;">&nbsp;<br class=3D""></p><blockquote type=3D"cite"=
 style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; =
font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; =
orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: =
none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D"">On July 20, 2019 at 9:01 AM Ron =
Fraser via Tigers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-WordSection1"><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">Stu</p><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; I agree with =
Mark.&nbsp;&nbsp; Drive it around for the next week to get use to how it =
drives and sounds; also make sure all the systems are working =
properly.</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">I don=E2=80=99t think there is much to =
breaking in a new car these days or anything to worry about for that =
trip.&nbsp;&nbsp;</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">You might want to check to see what =
the drive cycle is for the computer of that vehicle.</p><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">When a Check engine light comes ON and =
the codes are cleared there is a drive cycle required for the computer =
to check all the sensors and monitors be happy.</p><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">I know on some GM vehicles that drive =
cycle can be around 100 miles, yours could be different but you may want =
to get around 200 miles on the vehicle before taking that =
trip.&nbsp;</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">There should not be a problem with =
this new of a vehicle but I think knowing the drive cycle is a good =
thing to know with any computer controlled vehicle these days.</p><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">Have a safe and happy trip.</p><div =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<br class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal"><strong class=3D"">From:</strong><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Tigers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><strong class=3D"">On =
Behalf Of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></strong>coolvt--- via =
Tigers<br class=3D""><strong class=3D"">Sent:</strong><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Saturday, July 20, 2019 =
8:18 AM<br class=3D""><strong class=3D"">To:</strong><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:sabre2tgr@gmail.com"; class=3D"">sabre2tgr@gmail.com</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:Tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">Tigers@autox.team.net</a><br class=3D""><strong =
class=3D"">Subject:</strong><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Re: [Tigers] Off topic: How =
to treat new cars</p><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal" =
style=3D"margin-bottom: 12pt;"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; =
font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" class=3D"">I think most of the owners' =
manuals still suggest driving them at varying speeds for the first few =
hundred miles.&nbsp; If it was me, I'd try to take it out during the =
coming week and put a few miles on it. Of course, I tend to be a little =
fussy with cars</span><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: =
&quot;Segoe UI Emoji&quot;, sans-serif;" class=3D"">=F0=9F=98=80</span><sp=
an style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>Mark =
L<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal">In a message dated 7/20/2019 7:36:04 =
AM Eastern Standard Time,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>writes:</p><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: =
12pt;" class=3D"">A question for the gearheads out there:&nbsp; My =
wife's new Grand Cherokee sits in the driveway this morning with a grand =
total of 85 miles on the odometer.&nbsp; Next weekend there's a trip =
planned that involves several hours pounding the interstates.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">IIRC in the old days they told us to be gentle with new cars =
until the engine was "broken in", a few hundred miles or whatever.&nbsp; =
With with the GC there isn't much mention of anything like this.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">&nbsp;<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"ox-84aa725c8d-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
class=3D"">So what do you think?&nbsp; With today's oils and clever =
design, is there anything to worry about for the long term?<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span></p></div><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 12pt;" =
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class=3D"">Stu<span =
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