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It really depends on the competition in the concours world. When the cars
get so good that differences become more minor, it has to count.
One interesting story is that the Porsche concours world got so detailed
oriented, down to every nut and washer, that the Pebble Beach concours
kicked out Porsche because the other cars couldn't compete.
And another interesting story. I watched at TV documentary on Corvette
restoration. Similar situation where the competition is so keen, the
winners had to go even further. This restorer was showing that the paint
on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately. He
"perfected" that peel! He also showed that Chevy would not buff out the
paint until after the bumpers were on. So the paint under the bumpers had
more orange peel. He perfected that as well.
On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> =E2=80=9C...even the judges can't agree...=E2=80=9D
>
> Yes, and do the judges pass a color blind test before they are certified
> to judge? I have clothing that some call off-white and others call slight=
ly
> gray and yet I see a hint of green. As far as =E2=80=9C...no da swirls,=
=E2=80=9D well only
> if there were no swirls from the factory. But then..., what is original?
> Say there were no swirls from the factory but in the dealer prep process
> they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the car until after
> dealer prep. So, what is original? Will it get to the point that judges
> microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, test the tire=
s
> for 1960=E2=80=99s air? A while back I recall reading about judging to th=
e extent
> that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk
> fitting and that was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D
>
> I know this all sounds a bit absurd but in the world of one-upmanship
> there is always someone who wants to outdo the next guy. And the negative
> side of that can be some are left feeling lacking because their cars aren=
=E2=80=99t
> =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of ownership gets lost in the pursuit=
.
>
> *From:* phastphill--- via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM
> *To:* blance598@gmail.com ; tigers@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Tigers] BRG
>
> try that with healey ice blue metallic...even the judges can't
> agree...rather see people spend the time on a proper paint job,no over
> spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn gaps right....all it
> takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding with long boar=
d
> or short board...no da swirls
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: Tiger Club. Submission <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am
> Subject: [Tigers] BRG
>
> A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys had
> the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art
> than today, but they all looked great!! Beau.
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<div dir=3D"ltr">It really depends=C2=A0on the competition in the concours =
world.=C2=A0 When the cars get so good that differences become more minor, =
it has to count.<div><br></div><div>One interesting story is that the Porsc=
he concours world=C2=A0got so detailed oriented, down to every nut and wash=
er, that the Pebble Beach concours kicked out Porsche because the other car=
s couldn't compete.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>And another in=
teresting story.=C2=A0 I watched at TV documentary on Corvette restoration.=
=C2=A0 Similar situation=C2=A0where the competition is so keen, the winners=
had to go even further.=C2=A0 This restorer was showing=C2=A0that the pain=
t on Corvettes air conditioning brackets would peel almost immediately.=C2=
=A0 He "perfected" that peel!=C2=A0 He also showed that Chevy wou=
ld not buff out the paint until after the bumpers were on.=C2=A0 So the pai=
nt under the bumpers had more orange peel. He perfected that as well.</div>=
<div><br></div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Jan 8, 2020 at 10:22 AM Tom Witt via =
Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</=
a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;color:rgb(0,0,0)">
<div><font face=3D"Arial"><font style=3D"font-size:10pt">=E2=80=9C...even t=
he judges can't=20
agree...=E2=80=9D</font></font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">Yes, and do the judges pass a color bl=
ind test=20
before they are certified to judge? I have clothing that some call off-whit=
e and=20
others call slightly gray and yet I see a hint of green.=C2=A0 As far as =
=E2=80=9C...no=20
da swirls,=E2=80=9D well only if there were no swirls from the factory.=C2=
=A0 But=20
then..., what is original? Say there were no swirls from the factory but in=
the=20
dealer prep process they appeared. And the first time buyer never sees the =
car=20
until after dealer prep. So, what is original?=C2=A0 Will it get to the poi=
nt=20
that judges microscopically check the barely discernable swirl spacing, tes=
t the=20
tires for 1960=E2=80=99s air? A while back I recall reading about judging t=
o the extent=20
that points were awarded because there was a hint of grease on the Zerk fit=
ting=20
and that was deemed =E2=80=9Cmore original!=E2=80=9D</font></div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"2" face=3D"Arial">=C2=A0 I know this all sounds a bit ab=
surd but in=20
the world of one-upmanship there is always someone who wants to outdo the n=
ext=20
guy. And the negative side of that can be some are left feeling lacking bec=
ause=20
their cars aren=E2=80=99t =E2=80=9Cthere=E2=80=9D and the joy of ownership =
gets lost in the=20
pursuit.</font></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font=
-weight:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;display:inline">
<div style=3D"font:10pt tahoma">
<div><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Calibri"></font>=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"background:rgb(245,245,245)">
<div><b>From:</b> <a title=3D"tigers@autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@=
autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">phastphill--- via Tigers</a> </div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 08, 2020 9:55 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"blance598@gmail.com" href=3D"mailto:blance598@g=
mail.com" target=3D"_blank">blance598@gmail.com</a> ; <a title=3D"tigers@au=
tox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tiger=
s@autox.team.net</a> </div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] BRG</div></div></div>
<div>=C2=A0</div></div>
<div style=3D"font-size:small;text-decoration:none;font-family:Calibri;font=
-weight:normal;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-style:normal;display:inline">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">try that with healey ice blue=20
metallic...even the judges can't agree...rather see people spend the ti=
me on a=20
proper paint job,no over spray,orange peal,sunken spots...and get the damn =
gaps=20
right....all it takes is work....you can shave in my paint job,all sanding =
with=20
long board or short board...no da swirls<br><br><br>
<div style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:arial,helvetica;color:black">
<div>
<div>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Lance Beauchamp via Tigers=20
<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox=
.team.net</a>><br>To: Tiger Club. Submission=20
<<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox=
.team.net</a>><br>Sent: Wed, Jan 8, 2020 8:37 am<br>Subject:=20
[Tigers] BRG<br><br>
<div id=3D"gmail-m_-3965232698123492870yiv0686543216">
<div>A quick note, when I had my Healey and went to many shows no Healeys h=
ad=20
the same brg shades, some darker ,some more blue, mixing was less an art th=
an=20
today, but they all looked great!!=C2=A0 Beau.=20
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