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To: D or G at sbc <orr4sale@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
From: Gary via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2020 18:31:44 -0800
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David,
YES, they are as per the factory doc.
I=E2=80=99ve had MK1 number 622 since 1971 and
585 since 1995.  =20
Both same stick, no hood, I thought they
left them off but Paul Reisentz insisted
they all had them originally.
Gary


Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 27, 2020, at 5:54 PM, D or G at sbc <orr4sale@sbcglobal.net> wrote:=

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> =EF=BB=BF
> Now that Buck Trippel supplied the Rootes drawing for altering the dip sti=
ck, I see what the reason might be for the missing "little hood" dust cover.=
 Could it be Rootes removed it to re-curve the dip stick pull? So now they w=
ere loose? It is very hard to get this dust cover off, I find it hard to bel=
ieve they just fell off.
>=20
> Gary, are you dip sticks the short finger pull type?
>=20
> As far as I know the dust cover isn't available.
>=20
> David Franchi
>=20
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> On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 5:23:23 PM PST, Gary via Tigers <tigers@au=
tox.team.net> wrote:
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> Is just the little hood available anywhere?  I have two MK1s that both wer=
e missing the hood when I
> got them.
> Gary
>=20
> On 2/27/2020 4:43 PM, Ron Fraser via Tigers wrote:
>=20
> Here is a older email from David
>=20
> Note:
>=20
> I found an old email from David Franchi that may help.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The original dip stick & tube measurements are:
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Stick - 24 7/16" from the tip to the inside top of the "bell" cover/dust g=
uard. Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from tip, oil "full" mark 2" from tip.
>=20
> --
>=20
> Tube - 15 15/16" overall.
>=20
> 14 3/4" from the top of the "stop/seating ring" (were it goes into the tim=
ing gear cover) to the top of the tube
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> =20
>=20
> 7 5/16" from the top of the tube to the center of the "mounting wing"
>=20
> =20
>=20
> With the stick installed in the tube, the tip of the stick protrudes 9 1/2=
" out of the end of the tube. (measured from the tip of the stick to the bot=
tom of the tube "stop/seating ring") David Franchi
>=20
> =20
>=20
> Ron Fraser
>=20
> =20
>=20
> From: Tigers <tigers-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of D or G at sbc vi=
a Tigers
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 6:10 PM
> To: tigers@autox.team.net; rick@atmospherebuilders.com
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The long handle Tiger dip stick is a standard Ford part (originally from a=
 1962 Fairlane, it was used on early small block Fords until around early 19=
65) with the handle bent to clear the Tiger hood.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The short handle (finger pull) Tiger dip stick is the same as the long han=
dle, except Rootes cut off the handle and had it made shorter, this is easy t=
o do with a jig (I have done it without any problem)
>=20
> =20
>=20
> The tube is a Ford part C2OZ-6754-A, it has to be bent slightly to fit the=
 Tiger. Neither are available from Ford, but they are reproductions availabl=
e made for early Mustangs etc.
>=20
> =20
>=20
> David Franchi
>=20
> =20
>=20
> =20
>=20
> On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 2:27:08 PM PST, Richard Hyatt via Tigers <=
tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> =20
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> =20
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> When I got my engine back from a high performance machine shop, they happi=
ly pointed out the new chrome dipstick and dipstick tube they had obtained a=
nd installed in the process. Unfortunately this will not fit correctly as yo=
u can imagine. Mysteriously although they had returned some other parts, the=
 dipstick was missing and the old tube battered to the point of no use. I am=
 hoping to find a solution=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.not sure if anyone has ever mad=
e a pattern of the original tube or has any ideas. Thanks.
>=20
> Rick
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">David,<div>YES, they are as per the factory=
 doc.</div><div>I=E2=80=99ve had MK1 number 622 since 1971 and</div><div>585=
 since 1995. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div>Both same stick, no hood, I thought they=
</div><div>left them off but Paul Reisentz insisted</div><div>they all had t=
hem originally.</div><div>Gary</div><div><br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from m=
y iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 27, 2020=
, at 5:54 PM, D or G at sbc &lt;orr4sale@sbcglobal.net&gt; wrote:<br><br></b=
lockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div cla=
ss=3D"ydpd9f76c3yahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helve=
tica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-se=
tdir=3D"false">Now that <span>Buck Trippel supplied=20
the Rootes drawing for altering the dip stick, I see what the reason=20
might be for the missing "little hood" dust cover. Could it be Rootes=20
removed it to re-curve the dip stick pull? So now they were loose? It is
 very hard to get this dust cover off, I find it hard to believe they=20
just fell off.</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span><br>=
</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>Gary, are you dip s=
ticks the short finger pull type?</span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D=
"false"><span><br></span></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><span>=
As far as I know the dust cover isn't available.<br></span></div><div><span>=
<br></span></div><div><span>David Franchi</span></div></div><div><br></div><=
/div><div><br></div>
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        </div><div id=3D"ydp46350f6cyahoo_quoted_3151658255" class=3D"ydp463=
50f6cyahoo_quoted">
            <div style=3D"font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sa=
ns-serif;font-size:13px;color:#26282a;">
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, February 27, 2020, 5:23:23 PM PST, Gary via=
 Tigers &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751"><div>
    Is just the little hood available anywhere?&nbsp; I have two MK1s that
    both were missing the hood when I<br clear=3D"none">
    got them.<br clear=3D"none">
    Gary<br clear=3D"none">
    <br clear=3D"none">
    <div class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751yqt6101650768" id=3D"ydp46350f6cyi=
v4217355751yqt02697"><div class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751moz-cite-prefix">=
On 2/27/2020 4:43 PM, Ron Fraser via
      Tigers wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751yqt6101=
650768" id=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751yqt35299"><div><div class=3D"ydp46350f=
6cyiv4217355751WordSection1">
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">Here is a older email=
 from David</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">Note:</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">I found an old email f=
rom David Franchi
          that may help.</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">The original dip stic=
k &amp; tube
          measurements are:</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">Stick - 24 7/16" from=
 the tip to the inside
          top of the "bell" cover/dust guard. Oil "add" mark 1 1/8" from
          tip, oil "full" mark 2" from tip.</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">--</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">Tube - 15 15/16" over=
all.</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> </p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">14 3/4" from the top o=
f the "stop/seating
          ring" (were it goes into the timing gear cover) to the top of
          the tube </p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">7 5/16" from the top o=
f the tube to the
          center of the "mounting wing"</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">With the stick instal=
led in the tube, the
          tip of the stick protrudes 9 1/2" out of the end of the tube.
          (measured from the tip of the stick to the bottom of the tube
          "stop/seating ring") David Franchi</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal">Ron Fraser</p>=20
        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <div>
          <div style=3D"border-color: rgb(225, 225, 225) currentcolor curren=
tcolor; border-style: solid none none; border-width: 1pt medium medium; padd=
ing: 3pt 0in 0in;">
            <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Tige=
rs
              <a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751moz-txt-lin=
k-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:tigers-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">&lt;tigers-bounces@autox.team.net&gt;</a> <b>On Behalf Of <=
/b>D
              or G at sbc via Tigers<br clear=3D"none">
              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 27, 2020 6:10 PM<br clear=3D"n=
one">
              <b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751=
moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</a>;
              <a shape=3D"rect" class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751moz-txt-lin=
k-abbreviated" href=3D"mailto:rick@atmospherebuilders.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">rick@atmospherebuilders.com</a><br clear=3D"none">
              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tigers] dipstick tube 260CID engine</p>=20=

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        <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
        <div>
          <div>
            <div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.0pt;">The
                    long handle Tiger dip stick is a standard Ford part
                    (originally from a 1962 Fairlane, it was used on
                    early small block Fords until around early 1965)
                    with the handle bent to clear the Tiger hood. </span></p=
>=20
              </div>
              <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.0pt;">The
                    short handle (finger pull) Tiger dip stick is the
                    same as the long handle, except Rootes cut off the
                    handle and had it made shorter, this is easy to do
                    with a jig (I have done it without any problem)</span></=
p>=20
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.0pt;">The
                    tube is a Ford part C2OZ-6754-A, it has to be bent
                    slightly to fit the Tiger. Neither are available
                    from Ford, but they are reproductions available made
                    for early Mustangs etc.</span></p>=20
              </div>
              <div>
                <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
              </div>
              <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt;">David
                  Franchi</span></p>=20
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              <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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            <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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              <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;">On
                  Thursday, February 27, 2020, 2:27:08 PM PST, Richard
                  Hyatt via Tigers &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:tige=
rs@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net<=
/a>&gt;
                  wrote: </span></p>=20
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font-size:10.0pt;"> &nbsp;</span></p>=20
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688msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">When
                        I got my engine back from a high performance
                        machine shop, they happily pointed out the new
                        chrome dipstick and dipstick tube they had
                        obtained and installed in the process.
                        Unfortunately this will not fit correctly as you
                        can imagine. Mysteriously although they had
                        returned some other parts, the dipstick was
                        missing and the old tube battered to the point
                        of no use. I am hoping to find a solution=E2=80=A6=E2=
=80=A6.not
                        sure if anyone has ever made a pattern of the
                        original tube or has any ideas. Thanks.</span></p>=20=

                    <p class=3D"ydp46350f6cyiv4217355751ydp4baffe8yiv3832077=
688msonormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Rick</span></p>=20
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