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Never had a problem with a flex fan. Much more efficient at high rpm.
On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 19:55, Tom Witt via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
wrote:
> As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a-Lite fan
> (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people seem to have
> success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a particular Derale fan. =
I
> can see where a pusher fan might impede airflow of a mechanical puller fa=
n
> but not the other way where a puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan=
.
> That said given the "Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it
> creates a "wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Without
> smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by things that
> blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one area of the
> yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was doing it seems
> germane to the itself as others have not had the same issue with the
> recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't ask if the fan was installed
> backwards (you seen way smarter than that) but does the possibility exist
> that the fan design was for counter rotation? With serpentine belts in ca=
rs
> these days the rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier
> engines of the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to
> your problem. Enjoy the ride.
> On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via Tigers wrote:
>
> Tiger Running hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby st=
eps.
>
> After about a year of struggling with car running hot at idle with the
> hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took drastic steps. I
> have been driving the car during the last year only on back roads with no=
t
> much chance of traffic lights and traffic. I live in rural NC outside of
> Pinehurst.
> Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied from MS Word,
> so please ignore.
> 1. Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss black
> radiator overflow tank, missing from car.
> 2. Purchased and installed overflow tank straps from Alexander
> Washick alw6464@gmail.com which are powder coated, missing from car.
>
> 1. Purchased and installed undersize water pump pulley from Robert
> Straghan <rgstraghan@yahoo.ca> <rgstraghan@yahoo.ca> scuffed, primed
> and painted semi gloss black
> 2. Purchased and installed horn hole block plates from Don Lutjen
> <dlutjen55@gmail.com> <dlutjen55@gmail.com> scuffed, primed and
> painted semi gloss black.
> 3. Purchased and installed new taller custom aluminum cross flow side
> tank radiator from Griffin Radiator.
> 4. Purchased and installed new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted
> Ford dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump, pressed hub to=
line
> up.
> 5. Modified the mechanical fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=
=9D from
> radiator.
> 6. Mechanical fan remains Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.
> 7. Purchased and installed new SS lower radiator and overflow to
> radiator hoses.
> 8. New top radiator hose from local source, as SS hose would not fit
> taller radiator.
> 9. New fan belt.
> 10. Purchased and refurbished original Tiger fan shroud which would
> not fit as I did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting bracke=
t to
> fit my taller radiator. Striped, primed and painted used shroud semi
> gloss black =E2=80=93 sitting on shelf.
> 11. Installed 160 degree thermostat from 180. Could not find 170
> degree. If anyone has a part number and supplier for a 170-degree
> thermostat, please forward.
>
> So at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unless make up a cu=
stom. Other
> changes could make is front air dam and block front cross member to botto=
m
> of radiator spacing but for now I am going to see how things play out thi=
s
> summer.
>
> Ok after all the above I was still not satisfied with watching the
> temperature gauge increase while at idle or in stop and go traffic. Goal
> was to keep the temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees
> whether driving or at idle.
>
> The following changes have been made since the above changes 1-13 after
> trial period of 6 months or so.
>
> The Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I purchased the SS water
> pump and installed it and drove for a month or so. Install error on the
> Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned out to be the problem. The SS water
> pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I would later reinstall th=
e
> Flow Kooler with a new gasket.
>
> 1. Installed a couple of 12=E2=80=9D electric pusher fans I had in the=
garage
> and wired a manual off/on switch under the dash with a relay. Not
> much help or change in idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go
> traffic.
> 2. Built and installed a custom fan shroud. Remember I have an
> oversize Griffin radiator. This change resulted in idle temp. drop by
> maybe 2-3 degrees. Goal not achieve at this point but getting better.
> 3. I then discussed issue with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line
> (multiple times) regarding their electric pusher fan line.
> 1. The rule of thumb they recommend: Electric fans of either the
> pusher or puller type should be that the electric fan should cover =
70% of
> the radiator surface. Mine came out to 69.5% coverage.
> 2. Small block V-8 engines recommendation is 3,000 CFM.
> 3. Flex - a- Lite had only 1 fan that met these specifications.
>
>
>
> *FLX-105391 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391>*
> Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16 in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm,
> Black, 20 amps,
> (Mfr. #: 239)
>
> 1. Also purchased temp probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite whic=
h is
> adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on. Off is 10 degrees
> from on temp and is NOT adjustable.
>
> *FLX-121281 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281>*
> Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in Probe, Single Fan, Kit
> (Mfr. #: 33095)
> e. Also purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in
> the upper radiator hose.
>
>
>
> *FLX-107078 <https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078>*
> Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2 in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT
> Ports, Includes One Plug, Each
> (Mfr. #: 32082)
>
> The idea was to run the stock temp gauge probe into the adapter and
> keep my mechanical temperature gauge in place in the manifold to verify
> stock gauge was pretty accurate. The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle th=
e
> stock probe and I could not find 1/4 probe with the correct ohms for the
> stock gauge, so manual temp gauge is still in place which I believe is
> accurate.
>
> f. Goal still not achieved
>
> 1. Flex - a - Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =E2=80=
=9CYou typically
> only need one or the other. If you have a mechanical fan and just want
> extra cooling in stop and go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller
> electric fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger electric fan=
will
> probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D The two smaller electric fan=
s I used
> did not work in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in
> conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work in my particul=
ar
> car.
>
> Plan =E2=80=A6. Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new gasket.
>
> 1. Removed the mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D s=
pacer. Finally
> success! Temp stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless of
> ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So, in my case, the mec=
hanical
> fan in conjunction with the electric fan was causing air flow disru=
ption.
> 2. The temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around 176 degrees
> with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90 degrees and less. About 183
> in temperatures above 90, so not a issue. I might try out the 180
> degree thermostat at some point, 170 if I could find one might be o=
ptimum
> for my car. The only down side for me is the electric fan is noisy
> when running and volts on volt gauge drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- =
volt when the fan
> comes on.. The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing 20 amp=
s. This
> has not been a issue with lights on or off. I have a alternator and=
not the
> generator so with generator cars, this might be an issue. Now I
> cannot hear the electric fan *at all* inside the car but outside,
> it is noisy when running. Headers, 2.25" exhaust pipes with Flow
> Master series 40 mufflers. I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.
>
> So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower
> shroud addition and air dam to direct airflow.
>
> Every car reacts differently to changes and you have to keep trying
> different approaches that might work for your car and temperature\humidit=
y
> of the area you reside.
>
> What changes I have made to me that had the biggest result and what woul=
d
> I try again in what order to minimize cost, effort and work involved.
> Yahoo formatting again.
> Test temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.
>
> 1. Ensure radiator in good working order.
> 2. Change thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.
> 3. Install horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour to
> install.
> 4. Fan shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees improvement in my
> case, custom made. Possible making of the lower portion of the shroud
> as well, which I have not done.
> 5. Undersize water pump pulley and at same time, try a different
> mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D from radiator.
> 6. Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680, 2-3 degrees improvement in my case
> 7. New Griffin radiator. They sell a package for the Tiger with
> radiator, electric fan and shroud. Remember my radiator is a custom
> oversize radiator install by previous owner and the stock Griffin radi=
ator
> or package would not work in my case but I have installed a new custom
> Griffin radiator.
> 8. Remove mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan that covers
> 70% of your radiator surface *and *moves 3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recomm=
ended
> for small block V-8 motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order an=
d
> step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the Griffin Tiger package, y=
our
> call.
>
> So you see I have tried almost all recommended suggestions except lower
> shroud addition and air dam to direct air flow and have finally met my go=
al
> of keeping the temperature between 180 to 190 degrees in all driving
> conditions. I hope my trials and findings will help you moving forward.
> Any questions, please ask.
>
> Regards
>
> Joel Martin
>
> On Wednesday, July 19, 2023 at 09:09:34 PM EDT,
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> 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)
> Joe, I did an article for Tigers United, that describes with photographs
> what I did for the full fans shroud.
>
> TigersUnited.com
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
> tigersunited.com
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
> <http://tigersunited.com/techtips/PaulickShroud/pt-PaulickShroud.asp>
>
> BTW, Tigers United has a lot of great articles covering the variety of
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>
>
>
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>
> <jbbrown1980@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for all of the replies. I have a mostly stock engine (with
> Edelbrock intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator. I have a temperature
> gauge mounted on the intake and the engine seems to run a little over 200
> at idle but I haven't had any problems while driving the car. My problem
> right now is that I took the car out one afternoon when the temperature w=
as
> over 100 degrees and when I pulled into the garage and shut the engine of=
f
> it puked some water onto the floor. The temp gauge was showing around 25=
0
> degrees at that point.
>
> I already have the lower shroud on my radiator and I am making some horn
> opening covers today. I will also look at blocking off the area below th=
e
> radiator. I have read all of the articles that people have referred to a=
nd
> I believe I have an airflow problem at low speeds. So I was just looking
> for pusher fan recommendations at this point.
>
> The best advice is to probably not drive in 100+ degree weather.
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PAULICK via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
> I made a custom lower fan shroud, as one does not exist for the stock
> tiger, fan shroud. I did smoke test with the car at idle and the air come=
s
> through the radiator down towards the ground and circles back through the
> radiator again. So essentially you're just recycling hot air from your ow=
n
> radiator. It works.
>
> On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM, Owain Lloyd <owain.lloyd@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I think michael hit the nail on the head. first need to know is it
> overheating when stationary / moving slowly or at speed?
>
> a pusher fan will only help at very low speed or when stopped. and spal
> is the go to brand. still need the horn holes and gap between cross
> member and rad blocked. cardboard and zip ties does the trick quickly an=
d
> can be replaced with a more permanent solution later if you want. also
> need a fan shroud.
>
> personally i've never needed the electric pusher fan because i have a
> small 13" flex fan on the water pump pulley. that creates enough pull
> through the radiator at idle.
>
> if its overheating at more than 30/40mph then its another problem entirel=
y
> and there are a variety of other things to check.
>
> in my case its fuel boiling in the carb under certain conditions (slowing
> down after running fast in really high ambient temps above a particular
> altitude) rather than coolant temp which is the problem. there are a bun=
ch
> of things i could do there, most importantly a carb heat shield, but
> i've only suffered from it once.
>
> one thing i've found very useful for debugging cooling issues in the tige=
r
> over the years is having a glass gano filter in the rad top hose. at lea=
st
> you can see how the coolant is circulating which helps with thermostat or
> water pump issues and if you're used to how it should look, even how
> blocked the radiator is.
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=AFAM Jim B via Tigers <tigers@autox.te=
am.net>
> wrote:
>
> I=E2=80=99ve been reading about cooling issues with tigers for more that =
a decade
> (much less than some reading this) blocking horn holes, pusher fans, and
> shrouds etc etc. Entire studies have been done on this issue. Just check
> STOA, CAT or any club site. All good reads! I think the first place to
> start is knowing what the actual engine team really is. We all know that
> the original temp guage can be off. The other thing is: as a dyed in the
> wool ford guy, 185 degrees is the optimal engine temp. But, Ford engines
> can get to 195-200 degrees easily and that is not necessarily a bad thing=
.
> Yes, I put a pusher in mine only because I had one. I=E2=80=99m not reall=
y sure is
> does anything. My original guage can show 225-230 on a hot day (humidity
> plays a bitg role) but never has pucked out fluid. The design of the shou=
ld
> is an issue. It lets hot air from the engine compartment to get under the
> radiator. Many, many, =E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that can be done. However, =
on a hot low
> humidity day.. well good luck. JMO
>
> On Jul 18, 2023, at 8:40 PM, Allan Ballard <aballard@ix.netcom.com> wrote=
:
>
> The article includes several suggestions.
>
> One of them is to seal the missing section of the stock fan shroud at the
> bottom.
>
> A list member offered a piece he fabricated.
>
> I obtained one and here are a couple of pictures. I hope to fit it later
> this year.
>
> Even a few degrees of cooling will be worth the effort.
>
> Allan Ballard
> Mk1a Tiger
>
> <image0.jpeg><image1.jpeg>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 18, 2023, at 10:57 PM, Jay Laifman <jay.laifman@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> Have you looked at this cooling suggestions?
> http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveLaifmanValan=
ce1.asp
>
> It works great in Southern California heat.
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at 3:42=E2=80=AFPM Joe Brown <jbbrown1980@gmail.com>=
wrote:
>
> My Tiger can't keep up with this 100 degree weather in Texas. I've read
> through the article by Tiger Tom and Chuck King and I will make some of t=
he
> suggested modifications. They listed two different pusher electric fans =
in
> the article but both of them are no longer available.
>
> So, has anybody recently installed a pusher fan? If so, what part number=
s?
>
> Thanks,
> Joe Brown
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<div dir=3D"auto">Never had a problem with a flex fan.=C2=A0 Much more effi=
cient at high rpm.</div><div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 19:55, Tom Witt via Tigers &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net";>tigers@autox.team.net</a>> wr=
ote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px=
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
<p>As I was reading your "journey" when you got to the Flex-a=
-Lite
fan (initial item #6) I thought it might be suspect. Most people
seem to have success with the Maverick fan, the Volvo fan or a
particular Derale fan.=C2=A0 I can see where a pusher fan might imped=
e
airflow of a mechanical puller fan but not the other way where a
puller fan impedes the flow of a pusher fan. That said given the
"Flex" aspect of the Flex-a-Lite fan I wonder if it creates=
a
"wall of wind" and was causing the overheating issue. Witho=
ut
smoke to see the flow of air movement I'm always baffled by thing=
s
that blow over - and those that don't, leaves that deposit in one
area of the yard - and not another. So, whatever the flex fan was
doing it seems germane to the itself as others have not had the
same issue with the recommended fans and a pusher fan. I won't as=
k
if the fan was installed backwards (you seen way smarter than
that) but does the possibility exist that the fan design was for
counter rotation? With serpentine belts in cars these days the
rotation of the water pump is often opposite of earlier engines of
the same design. The good news is that you found a solution to
your problem. Enjoy the ride.<br>
</p></div><div>
<div>On 7/20/2023 7:47 AM, Joel Martin via
Tigers wrote:<br>
</div>
</div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite"></blockquote></div><div><blockquot=
e type=3D"cite">
=20
<div style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif;f=
ont-size:16px">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york"=
,times,serif">
<div style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if">
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman"">Tiger Running
hot =E2=80=93 Shotgun Approach after time of trying baby
steps.</span></font></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman"">After about a
year of struggling with car running hot at idle with
the
hood down, Hot to me is 195 degrees and above. I took
drastic steps.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New =
Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>I have been driving the
car during the last year
only on back roads with not much chance of traffic
lights and traffic.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times=
New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>I live in rural NC
outside of Pinehurst.</span></font></p>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york&q=
uot;,times,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0</span></font><font s=
ize=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Rom=
an";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"=
Times New Roman"">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
Bloody yahoo mail formatting ruined numbering copied
from MS Word, so please ignore.=C2=A0 <br>
</span></font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,s=
erif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman"">=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0 1.
Purchased and installed Sunbeam Specialties (SS) gloss
black radiator overflow tank, missing from car.</span></f=
ont></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york&q=
uot;,times,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0 2. Purchased and
installed overflow tank straps from <span style=3D"font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman"">Alexander Washick</span><span style=3D"f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:alw6464@gma=
il.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:"Times=
New Roman"">alw6464@gmail.com</a>
which are powder coated</span>, missing from car.<span =
style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman""></span></span></font></di=
v>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york=
",times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"1">
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and inst=
alled
undersize water pump pulley from </span></font></span=
><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif">Robe=
rt Straghan</span><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",=
times,serif">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:rgstraghan@yahoo.ca"; target=3D"_blank"=
style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><rgstra=
ghan@yahoo.ca></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black</span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and inst=
alled
horn hole block plates from </span></font></span><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif">Don Lutje=
n</span><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,seri=
f">=C2=A0<a href=3D"mailto:dlutjen55@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" style=3D"=
font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><dlutjen55@gmail.=
com></a>
scuffed, primed and painted semi gloss black.</span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and inst=
alled
new taller custom aluminum cross flow side tank
radiator from Griffin Radiator.</span></font></span><=
/li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and inst=
alled
new Flow Kooler water pump BRA-1680 painted Ford
dark blue to match engine replacing SS water pump,
pressed hub to line up.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Modified the mecha=
nical
fan spacer so that front of fan is 1=E2=80=9D from
radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Mechanical fan rem=
ains
Flex-a-Lite 14=E2=80=9D nylon 6 blade fan.</span></fo=
nt></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and inst=
alled
new SS lower radiator and overflow to radiator
hoses.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">New top radiator h=
ose
from local source, as SS hose would not fit taller
radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">New fan belt.</spa=
n></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Purchased and refu=
rbished
original Tiger fan shroud which would not fit as I
did not want to cut a original shroud top mounting
bracket to fit my taller radiator.<span style=3D"font=
-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Striped,
primed and painted used shroud semi gloss black =E2=
=80=93
sitting on shelf.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Installed 160 degr=
ee
thermostat from 180.<span style=3D"font-family:"=
Times New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Could not find
170 degree.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New=
Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>If anyone has a part
number and supplier for a 170-degree thermostat,
please forward.</span></font></span></li>
</ol>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">So
at this point I do not have a fan shroud =E2=80=93 unle=
ss
make up a custom.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times=
New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Other changes could
make is front air dam and block front cross member
to bottom of radiator spacing
but for now I am going to see how things play out
this summer.</span></font></span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0Ok
after all the above I was still not satisfied with
watching the temperature gauge increase while at
idle or in stop and go
traffic.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roma=
n"">=C2=A0 </span>Goal was to keep the
temperature at ALL times between 180 and 190 degrees
whether driving or at
idle.</span></font></span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0The
following changes have been made since the above
changes 1-13 after trial period of 6 months or so.</spa=
n></font></span></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0</span></font><=
/span><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"=
><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:in=
herit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">The
Flow Kooler water pump started leaking so I
purchased the SS water pump and installed it and
drove for a month or so.<span style=3D"font-family:&quo=
t;Times New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Install
error on the Flow Kooler water pump gasket turned
out to be the problem.<span style=3D"font-family:"=
Times New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>The SS water
pump actually raised idle temps 2-3 degrees so I
would later reinstall the Flow Kooler with a new
gasket.</span></font></span></p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york=
",times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"1">
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Installed a couple=
of 12=E2=80=9D
electric pusher fans I had in the garage and wired
a manual off/on switch under the dash with a
relay.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roma=
n"">=C2=A0 </span>Not much help or change in
idle temperature while at stoplights or stop\go
traffic.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Built and installe=
d a
custom fan shroud.<span style=3D"font-family:"Ti=
mes New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Remember I have
an oversize Griffin radiator.<span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>This
change resulted in idle temp. drop by maybe 2-3
degrees.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Ro=
man"">=C2=A0 </span>Goal not achieve at this
point but getting better.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif=
"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:i=
nherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">I then discussed i=
ssue
with Flex-a-lite technical services hot line
(multiple times) regarding their electric pusher
fan line.</span></font></span></li>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new yo=
rk",times,serif" type=3D"a" start=3D"1">
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">The rule of thu=
mb they
recommend:<span style=3D"font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Electric fans of
either the pusher or puller type should be that
the electric fan should cover 70% of the
radiator surface.<span style=3D"font-family:"T=
imes New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Mine came out
to 69.5% coverage.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Small block V-8=
engines
recommendation is<span style=3D"font-family:"T=
imes New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>3,000 CFM.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Flex - a- Lite =
had only
1 fan that met these specifications.</span></font><=
/span></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:369.75pt;font-family:garamond,"new y=
ork",times,serif" width=3D"493" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" bo=
rder=3D"0">
<tbody style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",tim=
es,serif">
<tr style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif">
<td style=3D"width:2.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamond=
,"new york",times,serif" width=3D"3">
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",t=
imes,serif">=C2=A0<font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:367.25pt;padding:0in;font-family:garam=
ond,"new york",times,serif" width=3D"490" valign=3D"top">
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",t=
imes,serif"><b style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color=
:black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-105391"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial"><font style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:black"=
>FLX-105391</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Ari=
al" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9=
pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
Electric Fan, Pusher, Flex-Wave, Single, 16
in. Diameter, 3,000 cfm, Black, 20 amps,<span sty=
le=3D"font-family:Arial">=C2=A0
</span><br>
(Mfr. #: 239) </span></font></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york=
",times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"4">
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new yo=
rk",times,serif" type=3D"a" start=3D"4">
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color=
:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Also purchased =
temp
probe and relay from Flex =E2=80=93 a Lite which is
adjustable so you can set when the fan comes on.<sp=
an style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0
</span>Off is 10 degrees from on temp and is NOT
adjustable.</span></font></span></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<table style=3D"width:6.25in;font-family:garamond,"new yor=
k",times,serif" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" bord=
er=3D"0">
<tbody style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",tim=
es,serif">
<tr style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif">
<td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamond=
,"new york",times,serif" width=3D"10">
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",t=
imes,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:=
"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt=
;font-family:"Times New Roman""><img width=3D"10" height=3D"17" b=
order=3D"0" style=3D"font-family: "Times New Roman";"></span></fo=
nt></p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamo=
nd,"new york",times,serif" width=3D"198" valign=3D"top">
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",t=
imes,serif"><b style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color=
:black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-121281"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial"><font style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:black"=
>FLX-121281</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Ari=
al" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9=
pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
Fan Control, Compact, Adjustable, Thread-in
Probe, Single Fan, Kit <br>
(Mfr. #: 33095) </span></font></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<div style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,s=
erif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"=
><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:in=
herit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""><span style=3D"font=
-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
e. A</span></span></font></span><span style=3D"font-f=
amily:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family=
:"Times New Roman";background-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" siz=
e=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:=
"Times New Roman"">lso
purchased temperature probe adapter and installed in
the upper radiator hose.</span></font></span></div>
<table style=3D"width:6.25in;font-family:garamond,"new yor=
k",times,serif" width=3D"600" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" bord=
er=3D"0">
<tbody style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",tim=
es,serif">
<tr style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif">
<td style=3D"width:7.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamond=
,"new york",times,serif" width=3D"10">
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",t=
imes,serif">=C2=A0<font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman""></span></font></p>
</td>
<td style=3D"width:148.5pt;padding:0in;font-family:garamo=
nd,"new york",times,serif" width=3D"198" valign=3D"top">
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",t=
imes,serif"><b style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Arial" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,=
0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9pt;font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold;color=
:black"><a href=3D"https://www.summitracing.com/parts/FLX-107078"; rel=3D"no=
follow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:Arial"><font style=3D"font-f=
amily:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:black"=
>FLX-107078</span></font></a></span></font></b><font size=3D"1" face=3D"Ari=
al" style=3D"font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:9=
pt;font-family:Arial;color:black"><br>
Radiator Hose Adapter, Aluminum, Fits 1 1/2
in. Hose, Has Two 1/4 in. NPT Ports, Includes
One Plug, Each <br>
(Mfr. #: 32082) </span></font></p>
</td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
<p style=3D"margin-left:0.75in;font-family:garamond,"new y=
ork",times,serif"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york&q=
uot;,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";ba=
ckground-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman=
"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Th=
e
idea was to
run the stock temp gauge probe<span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 </span>into
the adapter and keep my mechanical temperature gauge
in place in the manifold
to verify stock gauge was pretty accurate.<span style=
=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0
</span>The =C2=BC NPT port would not handle the stock
probe and I could not find 1/4
probe with the correct ohms for the stock gauge, so
manual temp gauge is still
in place which I believe is accurate.</span></font></sp=
an></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><=
font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";background-color:inhe=
rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=
=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0f.<span style=3D"f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0
</span>Goal still not achieved</span></font></span></p>
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",times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"5">
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york"=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:w=
indowtext">Flex - a
- Lite then offered the following advice =E2=80=93 =
=E2=80=9C</span></font></span>You
typically only need one or the other. If you have a
mechanical fan and just want extra cooling in stop and
go traffic, I suggest you use a much smaller electric
fan. But using both a mechanical and this bigger
electric fan will probably cause some disruption.=E2=80=9D<=
span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif">=C2=A0
</span>The two smaller electric fans I used did not work
in my case, so advice about smaller electric fan in
conjunction with mechanical water pump fan did not work
in my particular car.</li>
</ol>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman"">=C2=A0</span></font><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman=
" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span =
style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black=
">Plan =E2=80=A6.
Reinstalled the Flow Kooler water pump with new
gasket.</span></font></p>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york=
",times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"5">
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new yo=
rk",times,serif" type=3D"a" start=3D"1">
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Removed the
mechanical fan from the water pump and the 1=E2=80=9D
spacer.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Rom=
an"">=C2=A0 </span>Finally success!<span style=3D"font-family:"Ti=
mes New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Temp
stays between 176 and 190 at ALL times regardless
of ambient temperature and traffic conditions. So,
in my case, the mechanical fan in conjunction with
the electric fan was causing air flow disruption.</sp=
an></font></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",time=
s,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-family:&qu=
ot;Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;fo=
nt-family:"Times New Roman";color:black"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0</span>The
temp at speed above 35 mph, the car runs around
176 degrees with 160 degree thermostat in temps 90
degrees and less.<span style=3D"font-family:"Tim=
es New Roman"">=C2=A0 About 183 in temperatures
above 90, so not a issue. </span>I might try
out the 180 degree thermostat at some point, 170
if I could find one might be optimum for my car.<span=
style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0
</span>The only down side for me is the electric
fan is noisy when running and volts on volt gauge
drops around =C2=BD - =C2=BE- volt when the fan comes=
on..
The battery volts dropping are due to fan drawing
20 amps. This has not been a issue with lights on
or off. I have a alternator and not the generator
so with generator cars, this might be an issue.<span =
style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0
</span>Now I cannot hear the electric fan <b style=3D=
"font-family:"Times New Roman""><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;f=
ont-family:"Times New Roman"">at all</span></b>
inside the car but outside, it is noisy when
running.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New Ro=
man"">=C2=A0 </span>Headers, 2.25" exhaust
pipes with Flow Master series 40 mufflers.<span style=
=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0
</span>I wonder why I cannot hear fan running.</span>=
</font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";color:black">=C2=A0</span><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-=
family:"Times New Roman"">So you see I have tried
almost all recommended
suggestions except lower shroud addition and air dam
to direct airflow.</span></font></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";color:black">=C2=A0Every car reacts
differently to changes
and you have to keep trying different approaches that
might work for your car
and temperature\humidity of the area you reside.</span></=
font></p>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";color:black">=C2=A0What changes I
have made to me that had
the biggest result and what would I try again in what
order to minimize cost,
effort and work involved.</span></font></p>
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york&q=
uot;,times,serif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman" style=3D"font-f=
amily:"Times New Roman";color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-siz=
e:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:black">Yahoo
formatting again. <br>
</span></font></div>
<div style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,s=
erif"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman"">Test
temp gauge and sender to ensure reading properly.</span><=
/font></div>
<ol style=3D"margin-top:0in;font-family:garamond,"new york=
",times,serif" type=3D"1" start=3D"1">
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman"">Ensure
radiator in good working order.</span></font></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman"">Change
thermostat from 180 to 170 then 160.</span></font></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman"">Install
horn block off plates, minimal cost and about 1 hour
to install.</span></font></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New
Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";c=
olor:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman"">Fan
shroud if you do not have one, 2-3 degrees
improvement in my case, custom made.<span style=3D"font=
-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Possible
making of the lower portion of the shroud as well,
which I have not done.</span></font></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york"=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:w=
indowtext">Undersize
water pump pulley and at same time, try a
different mechanical fan and ensure fan is 1=E2=80=9D=
from
radiator.</span></font></span></li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york"=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:w=
indowtext">Flow
Kooler water pump BRA-1680, </span></font></span>2-3
degrees improvement in my case</li>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york"=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:w=
indowtext">New
Griffin radiator.<span style=3D"font-family:"Tim=
es New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>They sell a
package for the Tiger with radiator, electric fan
and shroud.<span style=3D"font-family:"Times New=
Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>Remember my radiator is
a custom oversize radiator install by previous
owner and the stock Griffin radiator or package
would not work in my case but I have installed a
new custom Griffin radiator.</span></font></span></li=
>
<li style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,=
serif;color:black"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york"=
,times,serif"><font style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman";backgr=
ound-color:inherit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:w=
indowtext">Remove
mechanical fan and install electric pusher fan
that covers 70% of your radiator surface <b style=3D"=
font-family:"Times New Roman""><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;fo=
nt-family:"Times New Roman"">and </span></b>moves
3,000 cfm=E2=80=99s as recommended for small block V-=
8
motors. Items 8 and 9 could be in reverse order
and step 9 will not necessary if you purchase the
Griffin Tiger package, your call.</span></font></span=
></li>
</ol>
<p style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,ser=
if"><font size=3D"3" face=3D"Times
New Roman" style=3D"font-family:"Times New Roman"=
;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times Ne=
w Roman";color:black">=C2=A0So you see I
have tried almost all
recommended suggestions except lower shroud addition
and air dam to direct air
flow and have finally met my goal of keeping the
temperature between 180 to 190
degrees in all driving conditions.<span style=3D"font-fam=
ily:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0 </span>I
hope my trials and findings will help you moving
forward.=C2=A0 Any questions, please ask.<br>
</span></font></p>
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if"><span style=3D"font-family:garamond,"new york",times,serif"><=
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rit;color:rgb(0,0,0)" size=3D"3" face=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">=C2=A0Regards</span><=
/font></span></p>
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nt-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman"">Joel
Martin</span></font></span></p>
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=C2=A0 1. Re: Cooling Fan (LARRY PAULICK)<br>
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lvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
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Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue"=
;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Jul 19, 2023, at 10:31 AM, Joe Brown
<a href=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; target=
=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial=
,sans-serif"><jbbrown1980@gmail.com></a> wrote:</div>
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;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:"Helve=
tica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Thanks for all of the replies.=
=C2=A0
I have a mostly stock engine (with Edelbrock
intake and 4 bbl.) and stock radiator.=C2=A0 I
have a temperature gauge mounted on the
intake and the engine seems to run a little
over 200 at idle but I haven't had any
problems while driving the car.=C2=A0 My proble=
m
right now is that I took the car out one
afternoon when the temperature was over 100
degrees and when I pulled into the garage
and shut the engine off it puked some water
onto the floor.=C2=A0 The temp gauge was showin=
g
around 250 degrees at that point.=C2=A0=C2=A0
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I already have the lower shroud on my
radiator and I am making some horn opening
covers today.=C2=A0 I will also look at
blocking off the area below the radiator.=C2=
=A0
I have read all of the articles that
people have referred to and I believe I
have an airflow problem at low speeds.=C2=A0 =
So
I was just looking for pusher fan
recommendations at this point.=C2=A0 =C2=A0</=
div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">The best advice is to probably not
drive in 100+ degree weather.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Thanks,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neue&=
quot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">Joe Brown</div>
</div>
<br>
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ot;,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:"Hel=
vetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On
Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 8:33=E2=80=AFAM LARRY PA=
ULICK
via Tigers <<a href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox=
.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family:"He=
lvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>=
;
wrote:<br>
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order-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;font-family:&=
quot;Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;border-left-color:rgb(=
204,204,204)">
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica Neu=
e",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">I made a custom lower fan shroud, as
one does not exist for the stock tiger,
fan shroud. I did smoke test with the
car at idle and the air comes through
the radiator down towards the ground and
circles back through the radiator again.
So essentially you're just recycling ho=
t
air from your own radiator.=C2=A0 It works.=
=C2=A0<br>
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eue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><br>
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amily:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helveti=
ca Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">On Jul 19, 2023, at 2:03 AM,
Owain Lloyd <<a href=3D"mailto:owa=
in.lloyd@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-family=
:"Helvetica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">owain.lloyd@gmail.c=
om</a>>
wrote:</div>
<br>
<div style=3D"font-family:"Helveti=
ca Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family=
:Times-Roman;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">I think michael
hit the nail on the head.=C2=A0 fir=
st
need to know is it overheating
when stationary / moving slowly
or at speed?
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an">a pusher fan will only help
at very low speed or when
stopped.=C2=A0 and spal is the go
to brand.=C2=A0 =C2=A0still need =
the
horn holes and gap between
cross member and rad blocked.=C2=
=A0
cardboard and zip ties does
the trick quickly and can be
replaced with a more
permanent=C2=A0solution later if
you want.=C2=A0 also need a fan
shroud.
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman">personally i've never
needed the electric pusher
fan because i have a small
13" flex fan on the water
pump pulley.=C2=A0 that creates
enough pull through the
radiator at idle.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman">if its=C2=A0overheating at
more than 30/40mph then its
another problem entirely and
there are a variety=C2=A0of oth=
er
things to check.</div>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an">in my case its fuel boiling
in the carb under certain
conditions=C2=A0(slowing down aft=
er
running fast in really high
ambient temps above a
particular altitude) rather
than coolant temp which is the
problem.=C2=A0 there are a bunch =
of
things i could do there, most
importantly a carb heat
shield, but i've=C2=A0only su=
ffered
from it once.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an">one thing i've found very
useful for debugging cooling
issues in the tiger over the
years is having a glass gano
filter in the rad top hose.=C2=A0
at least you can see how the
coolant is circulating which
helps with thermostat or water
pump issues and if you're use=
d
to how it should look, even
how blocked the radiator is.</div=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-Rom=
an"><br>
</div>
</div>
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font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text=
-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-de=
coration-line:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:curren=
tcolor">
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;font-size:18px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;tex=
t-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-d=
ecoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcol=
or">
<div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Times-Roman">On
Wed, Jul 19, 2023 at 7:41=E2=80=
=AFAM
Jim B via Tigers <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:tigers@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:Times-Roman">tigers@autox.team.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
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0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;f=
ont-family:Times-Roman;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
<div style=3D"font-family:Times-R=
oman"><font size=3D"4" style=3D"font-family:Times-Roman;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
">I=E2=80=99ve been
reading=C2=A0about cooling
issues with tigers for
more that a decade (much
less than some reading
this) blocking horn holes,
pusher fans, and shrouds
etc etc. Entire studies
have been done on=C2=A0this
issue. Just check STOA,
CAT or any club site. All
good reads! I think the
first place to start
is=C2=A0knowing what the
actual=C2=A0engine team reall=
y
is. We all know that the
original temp guage can be
off. The other thing is:
as a dyed in the wool ford
guy, 185 degrees is the
optimal engine temp. But,
Ford engines can get to
195-200 degrees easily and
that is not=C2=A0necessarily =
a
bad thing. Yes, I put a
pusher in mine only
because I had one. I=E2=80=99=
m not
really sure is
does=C2=A0anything. My=C2=A0o=
riginal
guage can show 225-230 on
=C2=A0a hot day (humidity pla=
ys
a bitg role) but never has
pucked out fluid. The
design of the should is
an=C2=A0issue. It lets hot ai=
r
from the engine
compartment to get under
the radiator. Many, many,
=E2=80=98fixes=E2=80=99 that =
can be=C2=A0done.
However, on a hot low
humidity day.. well good
luck. JMO</font>
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-Roman">
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es-Roman"><br>
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tyle=3D"font-family:Times-Roman">
<div style=3D"font-family=
:Times-Roman">On Jul 18, 2023,
at 8:40 PM, Allan
Ballard <<a href=3D"=
mailto:aballard@ix.netcom.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"=
font-family:Times-Roman">aballard@ix.netcom.com</a>> wrote:</div>
<br>
<div style=3D"font-family=
:Times-Roman"><span style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-styl=
e:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decor=
ation-style:solid;text-decoration-color:currentcolor;float:none;display:inl=
ine">The
article includes
several
suggestions.</span>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">One
of them is to seal
the missing
section of the
stock fan shroud
at the bottom.</div>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">A
list member
offered a piece he
fabricated.</div>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">I
obtained one and
here are a couple
of pictures. I
hope to fit it
later this year.</div=
>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">Even
a few degrees of
cooling will be
worth the effort.</di=
v>
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ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor"><br>
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ly:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacin=
g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
g:0px;text-decoration:none;text-decoration-style:solid;text-decoration-colo=
r:currentcolor">Allan
Ballard</div>
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g:normal;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacin=
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r:currentcolor">Mk1a
Tiger</div>
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e=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Sent
from my iPhone</div=
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<blockquote type=3D=
"cite" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">On
Jul 18, 2023,
at 10:57 PM,
Jay Laifman
<<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:jay.laifman@gmail.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">jay.laifman@gmail.com</a>>
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<blockquote type=3D"c=
ite" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">
<div dir=3D"ltr" st=
yle=3D"font-family:Helvetica">=EF=BB=BF
<div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">Have
you looked at
this cooling
suggestions? =C2=
=A0<a href=3D"http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-Steve=
LaifmanValance1.asp" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"font-famil=
y:Helvetica">http://tigersunited.com/techtips/SteveLaifmanValance/pt-SteveL=
aifmanValance1.asp</a>
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">It works
great in
Southern
California
heat.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">
<div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">On Tue, Jul 18, 2023 at
3:42=E2=80=AFPM J=
oe
Brown <<a href=
=3D"mailto:jbbrown1980@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica">jbbrown1980@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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padding-left:1ex;font-family:Helvetica;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)">
<div dir=3D"ltr" =
style=3D"font-family:Helvetica">My
Tiger can't
keep up with
this 100
degree weather
in Texas.=C2=A0
I've read
through the
article by
Tiger Tom and
Chuck King and
I will make
some of the
suggested
modifications.=C2=
=A0
They listed
two different
pusher
electric fans
in the article
but both of
them are no
longer
available.
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">So, has
anybody
recently
installed a
pusher fan?=C2=A0
If so, what
part numbers?</di=
v>
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica"><br>
</div>
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">Thanks,</div>
<div style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica">Joe Brown</div>
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