Re: [Tigers] Front Bump Stop Clearance?

[Gary Winblad <winbladgary@gmail.com>]

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Terry,
I just remembered...
The shop manual is your friend.

See the alignment section, page 5 for the position to put the gap gauge you
can make (page 24).
That is for factory stock.  My old original stock sagged springs are
probably no where near correct.

Gary WInblad


On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 10:42=E2=80=AFAM Jay <jay.laifman@gmail.com> wrote:

> I=E2=80=99ll add a twist on this.  I put the disc brake conversion on my =
Alpine.
> The caliper is positioned such that if the rear compresses enough, the li=
p
> of the frame above the rear end will hit the parking brake spring part of
> the caliper before any stop is hit.  I don=E2=80=99t know that I have eve=
r hit such
> a bump that has caused anywhere near that kind of compression.  But it
> still makes me nervous.  I=E2=80=99ve been debating adding a bigger stop =
inside the
> shock itself (the are Konis, which I think do have such stops), or rotati=
ng
> the caliper to a different position.  The problem with the different
> position is that the parking brake rod and cable will no longer work.
>
> Just a thought to add to the collective knowledge.
>
>
>
> On Aug 5, 2026, at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM, Gary Winblad <winbladgary@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>
> Terry,
> I bet Tom Hall could give you those answers.
> My stock Tiger is lowered with ground down rubber spring pads and stock
> sagged springs, don't think it ever bottoms.  Might be due to the shock
> setting.
> Gary Winblad
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 5, 2026 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Terry Packer via Tigers <
> tigers@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> I'd like to investigate whether intermittent contact with the rubber
>> snubbers is adding firmness to the feel of my MkI's front suspension.
>> Unfortunately guessing at the condition of the road springs by comparing
>> tire clearances, ride heights, etc, is usually inconclusive because of c=
ar
>> to car variables like wheel and tire sizes.
>>
>> So before disassembling anything I'd like to first do a quick "look see"=
.
>> To that end, can anyone share the intended clearance between the top of =
the
>> stock rubber snubbers and their corresponding stop-pads on the cross-mem=
ber
>> for a (mostly) stock Tiger with known good springs? A related question i=
s
>> how much front wheel travel the Tiger design was intended to provide. I
>> haven't see either of these dimensions in the Workshop Manual and either
>> one might help inform whether a more invasive investigation is justified=
.
>>
>> Thanks Much
>> Terry
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Terry,</div><div>I just remembered...</div><div>The s=
hop manual is your friend.</div><div><br></div><div>See the alignment secti=
on, page 5 for the position to put the gap gauge you can make (page 24).</d=
iv><div>That is for factory stock.=C2=A0 My old original stock sagged sprin=
gs are probably no where near correct.</div><div><br></div><div>Gary WInbla=
d</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_conta=
iner"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Aug 10, 2026 at 10:42=
=E2=80=AFAM Jay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jay.laifman@gmail.com";>jay.laifman@gm=
ail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-lef=
t:1ex"><div>I=E2=80=99ll add a twist on this.=C2=A0 I put the disc brake co=
nversion on my Alpine.=C2=A0 The caliper is positioned such that if the rea=
r compresses enough, the lip of the frame above the rear end will hit the p=
arking brake spring part of the caliper before any stop is hit.=C2=A0 I don=
=E2=80=99t know that I have ever hit such a bump that has caused anywhere n=
ear that kind of compression.=C2=A0 But it still makes me nervous.=C2=A0 I=
=E2=80=99ve been debating adding a bigger stop inside the shock itself (the=
 are Konis, which I think do have such stops), or rotating the caliper to a=
 different position.=C2=A0 The problem with the different position is that =
the parking brake rod and cable will no longer work.<div><br></div><div>Jus=
t a thought to add to the collective knowledge.<br><div><br></div><div><br =
id=3D"m_-466556242317216925lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockqu=
ote type=3D"cite"><div>On Aug 5, 2026, at 7:33=E2=80=AFPM, Gary Winblad &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:winbladgary@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">winbladgary@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br><div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:H=
elvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-wei=
ght:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transfo=
rm:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div>Terr=
y,</div><div>I bet Tom Hall could give you those answers.</div><div>My stoc=
k Tiger is lowered with ground down rubber spring pads and stock sagged spr=
ings, don&#39;t think it ever bottoms.=C2=A0 Might be due to the shock sett=
ing.</div><div>Gary Winblad</div><div><br></div></div><br style=3D"font-fam=
ily:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;fon=
t-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-tr=
ansform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div=
 class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-s=
tyle:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;=
text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wor=
d-spacing:0px;text-decoration:none"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">O=
n Wed, Aug 5, 2026 at 5:19=E2=80=AFPM Terry Packer via Tigers &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">tigers@autox.team.net</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;=
new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div dir=3D"ltr">I&#39;d like to=
 investigate whether intermittent contact with the rubber snubbers is addin=
g firmness to the feel of my MkI&#39;s front suspension. Unfortunately gues=
sing at the condition of the road springs by comparing tire clearances, rid=
e heights, etc, is usually inconclusive because of car to car variables lik=
e wheel and tire sizes.<br><br>So before disassembling anything I&#39;d lik=
e to first do a quick &quot;look see&quot;. To that end, can anyone share t=
he intended clearance between the top of the stock rubber snubbers and thei=
r corresponding stop-pads on the cross-member for a (mostly) stock Tiger wi=
th known good springs? A related question is how much front wheel travel th=
e Tiger design was intended to provide. I haven&#39;t see either of these d=
imensions in the Workshop Manual and either one might help inform whether a=
 more invasive investigation is justified.<br><br>Thanks Much<br>Terry</div=
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