here's a thought -
some are now using foam instead of springs. i believe it is airline seat
foam. supposedly it actually gives a comfortable ride!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Tilton" <sdtilton@yahoo.com>
To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 8:20 AM
Subject: TR 3 (and early 4) seat springs.
> Ill have to give some applause to Charles Runyan at TRF for some of his
latest
> efforts.
>
> I see in the latest sale catalog that hes working on a good replacement
for
> the seat springs on a TR3.
> (hopefully they will be adapted to a TR-4 also)
>
> He says hes trying to copy them exactly as they were originally produced
and
> that they have over 90 coil springs!!!
> God bless him for that.
>
>
> Some of you may have remembered my rants about how displeased I am with a
set
> of seat springs I bought from Moss many years ago.
>
> I put my faith in the fact that Moss wouldnt sell a worthless piece of
#@$ and
> Ive spent a lot of time and effort (and money) trying to make these seat
> springs work acceptably.
>
> After seeing the write-up in the TRF catalog . . . I went downstairs and
pulled
> my nice looking seats of the shelf with their springs on which only Iron
Man
> could sit on and be at the right ride height.
>
> Charles product has over 90 springs?
> The ones I have contain only 22, very big, very stiff, very tall coils
in
> them.
>
> You should see them.
> Back when I had them professionally installed with the Moss seat kit
(which is
> of very nice quality I must admit)
> I instructed the installer to compress them as much as humanly possible
and
> showed him pictures of cars with correct seat springs in them.
>
> He tried his best I guess, but it still came out bad.
>
> I called Moss and they gave me lines about how the springs should settle
with
> use and that after they start to sag, they should be much better.
> At that point I could just tighten up the side skirts around the bottom
edges.
>
> Im not kidding . . I got some huge sand bags and sat over 300 lbs on each
of
> those springs for months.
> No change. Still to tall.
>
> Another time I resorted to getting dozens of heavy duty nylon cable ties
and
> threading them through the coils then cinching them down.
>
> Shorter,? yes.
> Rock hard? Yes
>
> You should see it . . . I shake my head and laugh at the effort I went to
on
> them.
>
> Oh and by the way . . . upon closer inspection . . besides the Moss Motors
Part
> tag on them, I found tags with:
>
> John Skinner (Manufacturing) LTD of England
>
> At least I know with whom I should be irritated.
>
> Hope Mr. Runyan comes though with a good product.
>
> Sorry for the rant.
> I should throw those springs out . . . all they do is piss me off every
time I
> see them.
>
>
>
> Scott Tilton
> 1963 TR4 with pretty nice looking Spitfire seats rigged in to it
> Leesburg, VA
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