Here we go,
Let me say that Randall and I agree on a lot of things, actually most things
but we have always differed on this subject.
I don't feel that VTR has been high-handed at all and as a matter of fact I
supported opening up the information to everyone when this topic came up
some time ago. They have decided otherwise and I'm OK with that as I'm not
in a leadership position at VTR. I will maintain my membership however for
many more reasons than the Technical pages.
I too have made a contribution to the list individually, it's time to do so
My statement..... "Join the VTR and enjoy an excellent Organization that is
devoted to the folks who own Triumphs of all types and all over the world."
is not demonstrably false because of VTR limiting information to
non-members. Organization of all types maintain their information for their
members, it's their prerogative to do so and to charge dues for maintaining
that information. I ask would we as a community of Triumph owners be better
off with or without VTR? It's an easy answer in my opinion. Pay to play.
I know it's not a flame but we do disagree on this topic and I suspect we
----- Original Message -----
From: "Randall" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: RE: Now VTR Membership was Re: Crash pad replacement
> > If this type of information is a valuable resource to us then we should
> > support VTR for providing it to us via our Membership in their
> If, on the other hand, we feel that VTR has been entirely too high-handed
> limiting access to information that was DONATED to them with the
> would be made available to ALL Triumph enthusiasts, we should "vote with
> feet" and look elsewhere.
> > In addition VTR is now providing some support to the maintenance of the
> > lists which is another reason to support the Organization.
> Sorry, I'd rather make my donations to the lists directly.
> > Join the VTR and enjoy an excellent Organization that is devoted to the
> > folks who own Triumphs of all types and all over the world.
> I am a member of VTR, but I claim the above statement is demonstrably
> VTR is only devoted to the folks who join VTR and the rest of the Triumph
> community can go hang.
> > Let the flames begin.
> Not a flame, Jerry, just a difference of opinion.
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