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Could the original solenoid just be wired in series to the new starter =
solenoid with a piggyback small wire from one solenoid to the other?
I can not grasp how Andrews' way would work on the button without some =
wiring to the small spade connections.
Forgive me if this is not correct as electrics are not my strongpoint.
I wish to retain the original solenoid with a Hi Torque starter on a 4A =
as the solenoid is so visually prominent attached to the battery =
carrier. Plus, I spent an exceptional amount of time finding a year code =
perfect NOS replacement solenoid prior to purchasing the Japanese =
starter.
Being able to use the button on the old type solenoid would be a =
distinct advantage for everything from setting the timing to resetting =
the tappets.
Adrian 1966 TR4A CT64306 O
Wales UK.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Andrew Uprichard=20
To: triumphs@autox.team.net=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:32 AM
Subject: [TR] TR3 Solenoid suggestion
So I just fried a new gear-reduction starter (for an early TR3) by =
putting in a smallmouth starter with a bolt-on flywheel ring gear. =
Grrrrr.
=20
Anyway, when I bought a replacement (correct) starter today, I got =
into a discussion about starter solenoids. I must admit I like the =
"button" feature as it allows me to start a car while fiddling with the =
carb and choke, even the timing. Well, modern starters have their own =
solenoids, so many just bypass the solenoid on the firewall. Or you can =
keep the original configuration and bypass the solenoid on the new =
starter. But what was suggested to me was to connect both thick cables =
(battery and starter) to one pole on the solenoid, and connect a =
standard wire between the other pole and the starter solenoid. It was =
explained to me that this allows one to keep the "button", while also =
extending the life of the original firewall solenoid.
=20
I tried it, and it worked fine (today I started a TR3 which hadn't run =
since 1975!). So, my question is, is the logic correct and is this a =
preferred way of keeping the "button" when installing gear-reduction =
starters on our cars?
Andrew Uprichard
Elated after resurrecting a TR3
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Could the original solenoid just be =
wired in series=20
to the new starter solenoid with a piggyback small wire from one =
solenoid to the=20
other?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I can not grasp how Andrews' way would =
work on the=20
button without some wiring to the small spade connections.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Forgive me if this is not correct as =
electrics are=20
not my strongpoint.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I wish to retain the original solenoid =
with a Hi=20
Torque starter on a 4A as the solenoid is so visually =
prominent=20
attached to the battery carrier. Plus, I spent an exceptional amount of =
time=20
finding a year code perfect NOS replacement solenoid prior to =
purchasing=20
the Japanese starter.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Being able to use the button on the old =
type=20
solenoid would be a distinct advantage for everything from setting the =
timing to=20
resetting the tappets.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Adrian 1966 TR4A CT64306 O</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Wales UK.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dauprichard@uprichard.net=20
href=3D"mailto:auprichard@uprichard.net";>Andrew Uprichard</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dtriumphs@autox.team.net=20
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</A> =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 14, 2015 =
12:32=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [TR] TR3 Solenoid=20
suggestion</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>So I just fried a new gear-reduction starter (for =
an early=20
TR3) by putting in a smallmouth starter with a bolt-on flywheel ring =
gear.=20
Grrrrr.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Anyway, when I bought a replacement (correct) =
starter=20
today, I got into a discussion about starter solenoids. I must =
admit I=20
like the =93button=94 feature as it allows me to start a car while =
fiddling with=20
the carb and choke, even the timing. Well, modern starters have =
their=20
own solenoids, so many just bypass the solenoid on the firewall. =
Or you=20
can keep the original configuration and bypass the solenoid on the new =
starter. But what was suggested to me was to connect both thick =
cables=20
(battery and starter) to one pole on the solenoid, and connect a =
standard wire=20
between the other pole and the starter solenoid. It was explained to =
me that=20
this allows one to keep the =93button=94, while also extending the =
life of the=20
original firewall solenoid.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>I tried it, and it worked fine (today I started a =
TR3 which=20
hadn=92t run since 1975!). So, my question is, is the logic =
correct and is=20
this a preferred way of keeping the =93button=94 when installing =
gear-reduction=20
starters on our cars?<BR><BR>Andrew Uprichard<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Elated after resurrecting a =
TR3<o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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