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Re: [TR] ZSounds like most forgot something about the DDP?

To: john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk
Subject: Re: [TR] ZSounds like most forgot something about the DDP?
From: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 08:39:46 -0400
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 Are you  saying that some  mineral oil=E2=80=98s might replace  zinc?

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:47 AM John Macartney <john.macartney@ukpips.org.u=
k>
wrote:

> I think it=E2=80=99s important to mention that while a lot of people on t=
his list
> live in the US and Canada, there are more than just a few who live
> elsewhere =E2=80=93 i.e. Europe and Australia/New Zealand. AFAIK, many lu=
bricants
> in those countries differ in specification to those commonly available in
> North America. Additionally, it seems that those outside N.A. prefer to u=
se
> =E2=80=98classic=E2=80=99 oils which are blended specifically for the cla=
ssic car market
> and while they do include a number of lubricant =E2=80=98enhancers=E2=80=
=99 to improve oil
> performance. I refer particularly to 20/50 type mineral oils and these do
> not need ZDDP.
>
>
>
> Jonmac
>
>
>
> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Paul
> Dorsey
> *Sent:* 09 September 2018 21:22
> *To:* Triumph list Team.net <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [TR] ZSounds like most forgot something about the DDP?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *ZDDPlus Engine Oil Additive*
>
> *After 70+ years of trouble-free, metal to metal engine protection, the
> E.P.A. is forcing ZDDP (Zinc Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate =3D Zinc and
> Phosphorus) out*
>
> *of domestic motor oil. If your engine was designed prior to*
>
> *the 1990s, your non-roller*
>
> *lifters require ZDDP in your motor oil to avoid premature deterioration.
> Don't let your lifters run metal-to-metal. Add the 4 fluid ounce contents
> of this ZDDPlus bottle at every 4 to*
>
> *5 quart oil change. Not for use with catalytic converters.*
>
> *ZDDPlus, each 220-805 ZDDPlus, case of 25 220-908*
>
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<div><div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0Are you =C2=A0saying that some =C2=A0mineral o=
il=E2=80=98s might replace =C2=A0zinc?</div></div><div><br><div class=3D"gm=
ail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 4:47 AM John Macartney =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk";>john.macartney@ukpips.o=
rg.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"E=
N-GB" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-91513907153156109=
81WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>I think it=E2=80=99s important=
 to mention that while a lot of people on this list live in the US and Cana=
da, there are more than just a few who live elsewhere =E2=80=93 i.e. Europe=
 and Australia/New Zealand. AFAIK, many lubricants in those countries diffe=
r in specification to those commonly available in North America. Additional=
ly, it seems that those outside N.A. prefer to use =E2=80=98classic=E2=80=
=99 oils which are blended specifically for the classic car market and whil=
e they do include a number of lubricant =E2=80=98enhancers=E2=80=99 to impr=
ove oil performance. I refer particularly to 20/50 type mineral oils and th=
ese do not need ZDDP.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>=
<u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span>Jonmac<u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net"=
 target=3D"_blank">triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Paul Dorsey<br><b>Sent:</b> 09 September 2018 21:22<br><b>To:</b> Trium=
ph list Team.net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">triumphs@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> [TR] ZSounds like=
 most forgot something about the DDP?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><=
div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"#0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-9151=
390715315610981WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p=
><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt"><b><span style=3D"font-size:=
19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quot;,serif;color:#454545">=C2=
=A0</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:&quot;.SF UI Text=
&quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm=
;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal;min-height:22.7px"><b><span styl=
e=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quot;,serif;colo=
r:#454545">=C2=A0</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:&qu=
ot;.SF UI Text&quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=
=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quot;,serif;color:#4=
54545">ZDDPlus Engine Oil Additive</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5p=
t;font-family:&quot;.SF UI Text&quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></=
span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal">=
<b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quo=
t;,serif;color:#454545">After 70+ years of trouble-free, metal to metal eng=
ine protection, the E.P.A. is forcing ZDDP (Zinc Dialkyl Dithio Phosphate =
=3D Zinc and Phosphorus) out</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font=
-family:&quot;.SF UI Text&quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span><=
/p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quot;,ser=
if;color:#454545">of domestic motor oil. If your engine was designed prior =
to</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:&quot;.SF UI Text&=
quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;=
margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0=
pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quot;,serif;color:#454545">the 1990=
s, your non-roller</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:&q=
uot;.SF UI Text&quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p styl=
e=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quot;,serif;color=
:#454545">lifters require ZDDP in your motor oil to avoid premature deterio=
ration. Don&#39;t let your lifters run metal-to-metal. Add the 4 fluid ounc=
e contents of this ZDDPlus bottle at every 4 to</span></b><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:14.5pt;font-family:&quot;.SF UI Text&quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p style=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-str=
etch:normal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText=
-Semibold&quot;,serif;color:#454545">5 quart oil change. Not for use with c=
atalytic converters.</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:=
&quot;.SF UI Text&quot;,serif;color:#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p st=
yle=3D"margin:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-stretch:normal"><b><span style=
=3D"font-size:19.0pt;font-family:&quot;.SFUIText-Semibold&quot;,serif;color=
:#454545">ZDDPlus, each 220-805 ZDDPlus, case of 25 220-908</span></b><span=
 style=3D"font-size:14.5pt;font-family:&quot;.SF UI Text&quot;,serif;color:=
#454545"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang=3D"EN-GB" link=3D"#=
0563C1" vlink=3D"#954F72"><div class=3D"m_-9151390715315610981WordSection1"=
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