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Re: [TR] Electric Fans: Something Different

To: john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fans: Something Different
From: Paul Dorsey <dorpaul1@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2018 15:17:01 -0400
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do they make a lighter flywheel?  What about Aluminum?
Paul

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:30 AM John Macartney <john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
wrote:

> I think I'm correct in saying one of the reasons for the heavier flywheel
> is
> that the wet liner four engine was originally designed for the Standard
> Vanguard with a two speed (low and high) gearbox with overdrive and also
> the
> Ferguson tractor - both of which engines needed to develop shedloads of
> torque at very low engine speeds. In both instances, much heavier flywheels
> were required. Even if the early TR's could have got away with lighter
> units, that would have meant having two different units. In those early
> post
> WW2 days, iron and steel in the UK was in such short supply that having a
> 'common' flywheel across the range made economic sense from a production
> cost viewpoint. Just an opinion
>
> Jonmac
>
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> Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>; George Haynes
> <ghaynestr4@aol.com>; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fans: Something Different
>
> I believe the TR2/3/4 was more or less "balanced" internally.  The flywheel
> weighs about 3x what it needs to.  I believe they used the flywheel to
> smooth it out.
>
> Jonas Payne
> PBR Consulting Services, LLC
> 702.882.6711
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">do they make a lighter flywheel?=C2=A0 What about Aluminum=
?<div>Paul</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">On Mo=
n, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:30 AM John Macartney &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:john.macart=
ney@ukpips.org.uk">john.macartney@ukpips.org.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #=
ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I think I&#39;m correct in saying one of the re=
asons for the heavier flywheel is<br>
that the wet liner four engine was originally designed for the Standard<br>
Vanguard with a two speed (low and high) gearbox with overdrive and also th=
e<br>
Ferguson tractor - both of which engines needed to develop shedloads of<br>
torque at very low engine speeds. In both instances, much heavier flywheels=
<br>
were required. Even if the early TR&#39;s could have got away with lighter<=
br>
units, that would have meant having two different units. In those early pos=
t<br>
WW2 days, iron and steel in the UK was in such short supply that having a<b=
r>
&#39;common&#39; flywheel across the range made economic sense from a produ=
ction<br>
cost viewpoint. Just an opinion<br>
<br>
Jonmac<br>
<br>
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com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">t=
riumphs@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: Re: [TR] Electric Fans: Something Different<br>
<br>
I believe the TR2/3/4 was more or less &quot;balanced&quot; internally.=C2=
=A0 The flywheel<br>
weighs about 3x what it needs to.=C2=A0 I believe they used the flywheel to=
<br>
smooth it out.<br>
<br>
Jonas Payne<br>
PBR Consulting Services, LLC<br>
702.882.6711<br>
<br>
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