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Re: [TR] Lead Substitute

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Subject: Re: [TR] Lead Substitute
From: David P <frogeye@porterscustom.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2018 12:05:42 -0600
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Guess I'll add another two cents.. as many will recall, a valve job was 
the bread and butter of repair shops (mine included) since the advent of 
unleaded fuel I have not seen a single valve job and valve seat recession

only on a race engine. New chemicals have been added to replace the 
octane boosting and lubricating attributes of lead. Most of what is out 
there as advice is a total myth or marketing BS.. My opinion .

DaveP


On 10/1/2018 11:15 AM, Reihing, Randall S. wrote:
> Checking the web I found that the Red Line lead substitute fuel 
> additive is available through Amazon in 12 ounce bottles to treat 25 
> gallons for close to $17.00, plus shipping, and adds about $.70 per 
> gallon to the cost of whatever octane is selected.
>
> An alternative might be 100 Low Lead, or 100LL, aviation fuel 
> available at almost any airport and add it to the auto fuel. Shell Oil 
> Co.'s web site lists 100LL as having 0.56g/liter of lead per gallon, 
> https://www.shell.com/business-customers/aviation/aviation-fuel/avgas.html, 
>  which is about 560 ppm, or parts per million per gallon. I don't know 
> if one gallon of 100LL could be diluted in today's auto fuel and be 
> enough lead to for a TR3's valve seats.
>
> An alternative might be to use a few gallons of 100LL ($4.75/gallon in 
> Ohio) from time-to-time and maybe (hopefully) enough lead residue 
> would build up to protect the valve seats. Click on this link to see 
> 100LL av gas cost per 
> state.http://www.airnav.com/fuel/greatdeals/long?type=1
>
> Maybe one of the lists math wizards could research how much lead was 
> in auto fuel before it was phased out and determine if 100LL can help.
>
> Sincerely,
> Randall Reihing
> 1959 TR3A
>
>
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    <p>Guess I'll add another two cents.. as many will recall, a valve
      job was the bread and butter of repair shops (mine included) since
      the advent of unleaded fuel I have not seen a single valve job and
      valve seat recession</p>
    <p>only on a race engine. New chemicals have been added to replace
      the octane boosting and lubricating attributes of lead. Most of
      what is out there as advice is a total myth or marketing BS.. My
      opinion .</p>
    <p>DaveP<br>
    </p>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/1/2018 11:15 AM, Reihing, Randall
      S. wrote:<br>
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      <div style="direction: ltr;font-family: Tahoma;color:
        #000000;font-size: 10pt;">Checking the web I found that the Red
        Line lead substitute fuel additive is available through Amazon
        in 12 ounce bottles to treat 25 gallons for close to $17.00,
        plus shipping, and adds about $.70 per gallon to the cost of
        whatever octane is selected. 
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>An alternative might be 100 Low Lead, or 100LL, aviation
          fuel available at almost any airport and add it to the auto
          fuel. Shell Oil Co.'s web site lists 100LL as having
          0.56g/liter of lead per gallon, <a
href="https://www.shell.com/business-customers/aviation/aviation-fuel/avgas.html";
            target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.shell.com/business-customers/aviation/aviation-fuel/avgas.html</a>, <span
            style="font-size: 10pt;"> which is about 560 ppm, or parts
            per million per gallon. I don't know if one gallon of 100LL
            could be diluted in today's auto fuel and be enough lead to
            for a TR3's valve seats. </span></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>An alternative might be to use a few gallons of 100LL
          ($4.75/gallon in Ohio) from time-to-time and maybe (hopefully)
          enough lead residue would build up to protect the valve seats.
          Click on this link to see 100LL av gas cost per state.<font
            color="#0000ff"> </font><a
            href="http://www.airnav.com/fuel/greatdeals/long?type=1";
            target="_blank" style="font-size: 10pt;"
            
moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.airnav.com/fuel/greatdeals/long?type=1</a></div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Maybe one of the lists math wizards could research how much
          lead was in auto fuel before it was phased out and determine
          if 100LL can help.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Sincerely,</div>
        <div>Randall Reihing</div>
        <div>1959 TR3A</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
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