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Re: [TR] TR4 Starter question

To: Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 Starter question
From: James Henningsen <trguy75@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 10:44:44 -0500
Cc: Triumphs@autox.team.net
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Hmmn.   Very interesting indeed.  My 4 is an early one and the starter looks 
just like my TR3As.  I never heard of the starter stopping as engine fires.  My 
3 keeps cranking as long as I push the button.  Jim

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> On Jan 22, 2019, at 10:31 AM, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Except that the rubber coupling was eliminated during the TR3A; a TR4
> shouldn't have one.
> 
> But you bring up a very good point.  The TR4 still uses a Bendix, which
> automatically disengages the starter when the engine fires.  If the engine
> fires once but doesn't start, the starter is disengaged and wont engage
> again until you let off the key (or button on a TR3) and let it stop
> spinning.
> 
> Perhaps what Jim is hearing is the hum of the starter motor spinning
> uselessly after the Bendix has kicked out.
> 
> In that case, he needs a tune-up rather than a starter rebuild.  It's just
> the nature of the beast.  Eliminating that "feature" was one of the best
> benefits from going to a gear drive starter IMO.  (The gear drive starters
> use a solenoid and an overrunning clutch rather than a Bendix, so if the
> engine fires but doesn't start, they just go back to cranking.)
> 
> -- Randall
> 
>> My guess is the hum is the rubber coupling in the starter 
>> pawl is slipping.  Time for rebuild.
>> 
> 
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