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Oil soaked rags can be good rust preventers. My next door neighbor is an ol=
d, very old, retired farmer who shared that on hot summer days, around 90F,=
liquid roof tar flowed like paint and he used it to undercoat his entire 1=
928 Model A. It never rusted. Way better than TST or other popular undercoa=
tings. Even when they power wash the frame first. That only gets the crud o=
ff, not the oxidation that must be wiped off, or discoloration that might b=
e surface rust, both of which prevent long term adhesion when no fully remo=
ved. On one brand new vehicle frame I had commercially coated with TST befo=
re the vehicle was driven (it was delivered to TST) and adhered to their ye=
arly inspections and re-coatings, the TST coating shrank and developed very=
thin cracks that admitted moisture.The frame rusted out behind the TST but=
not where large pieces of it had flaked off. That full frame actually brok=
e in half above the rear wheel arch, right where the undercoating was heavi=
est.
Some people favor commercial undercoatings. We no longer do. What does seem=
s to work is a thorough cleaning and application of pickup truck bed liner =
paint and regular inspections every time the oil is changed.
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Chris Simo <c=
csimonsen@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2019 10:40 PM
To: list Triumph
Subject: [TR] triumph tr3 rescue update
Previously on the tr3 channel.... I picked up two tr3 basket cases with the=
aid of several Triumph Club of the Carolinas members/friends last October.=
The 3s were a bit worse off than expected. One car, a roller..., did not r=
oll and engine was siezed.
After months of soaking and constant pressure the engine spins free and mak=
es good compression, rear brake drums removed with aid of air impact, engin=
e/od trans pulled, degreased. power washed and engine delivered to Dr Morro=
. Rear fenders removed. heated all cage nuts to red hot and pb blaster afte=
r cooled. believe it or not almost all hex head bolts came out with minima=
l effort. Significant rust everywhere, but not as bad as tr3s in my previou=
s life. We can do this! Passenger floor pan mostly removed. Rest of interi=
or removed. Brake lines removed intact to use as models for replacements. P=
layed with needle scaler from harbor freight. works well.
Fast forward to today.
First week at new job, so not a ton of progress.
Bosch mini split is installed and works a champ! Shop will be cool this sum=
mer.
Tools cleaned and put away.
Passengers side rocker opened up.
Findings...Bob commented on what looked like oil soaked rags stuffed in the=
rusted rocker.... Upon further destruction, it revealed cardboard, fibergl=
ass, and CONCRETE!
Apparently, the DPO found concrete as an appropriate base filler material.
Good news is the inner rocker looks good. Oil soaked rags must've helped.
Never seen concrete in a TR....
Bought a pressure pot sand blaster and modified it based on my previous wor=
k with metal improvement company. Can't wait to try it out.
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Oil soaked rags can be good rust =
preventers. My next door neighbor is an old, very old, retired farmer who s=
hared that on hot summer days, around 90F, liquid roof tar flowed like pain=
t and he used it to undercoat his
entire 1928 Model A. It never rusted. Way better than TST or other popular=
undercoatings. Even when they power wash the frame first. That only gets t=
he crud off, not the oxidation that must be wiped off, or discoloration tha=
t might be surface rust, both of
which prevent long term adhesion when no fully removed. On one brand =
new vehicle frame I had commercially coated with TST before the vehicl=
e was driven (it was delivered to TST) and adhered to their yearl=
y inspections and re-coatings, the TST coating shrank
and developed very thin cracks that admitted moisture.The frame ruste=
d out behind the TST but not where large pieces of it had flaked off. =
That full frame actually broke in half above the rear wheel arch,=
right where the undercoating was heaviest. </p>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Some people favor commercial =
;undercoatings. We no longer do. What does seems to work is a tho=
rough cleaning and application of pickup truck bed liner paint and reg=
ular inspections every time the oil is changed. </p>
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m><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 21, 2019 10:40 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> list Triumph<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] triumph tr3 rescue update</font>
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<div dir=3D"auto"><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Previously on the =
tr3 channel.... I picked up two tr3 basket cases with the aid of several Tr=
iumph Club of the Carolinas members/friends last October. The 3s were a bit=
worse off than expected. One car, a
roller..., did not roll and engine was siezed.</span></div>
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<div dir=3D"auto">
<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif">After months of soaking and con=
stant pressure the engine spins free and makes good compression, rear brake=
drums removed with aid of air impact, engine/od trans pulled, degreased. p=
ower washed and engine delivered to
Dr Morro. Rear fenders removed. heated all cage nuts to red hot and pb bla=
ster after cooled. believe it or not almost all hex head bolts came o=
ut with minimal effort. Significant rust everywhere, but not as bad as tr3s=
in my previous life. We can do this!
Passenger floor pan mostly removed. Rest of interior removed. Brake =
lines removed intact to use as models for replacements. Played with needle =
scaler from harbor freight. works well.</font></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif">Fast forward to today.</font></=
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<div dir=3D"auto"><font face=3D"sans-serif">First w</font><span style=3D"fo=
nt-family:sans-serif">eek at new job, so not a ton of progress.</span></div=
>
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<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Bosch mini split is inst=
alled and works a champ! Shop will be cool this summer.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Tools cleaned and put aw=
ay.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Passengers side rocker o=
pened up.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Findings...Bob commented=
on what looked like oil soaked rags stuffed in the rusted rocker.... Upon =
further destruction, it revealed cardboard, fiberglass, and CONCRETE!</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Apparently, the DPO foun=
d concrete as an appropriate base filler material.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Good news is the inner r=
ocker looks good. Oil soaked rags must've helped.</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Never seen concrete in a=
TR....</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"font-family:sans-serif">Bought a pressure pot sa=
nd blaster and modified it based on my previous work with metal improvement=
company. Can't wait to try it out.</div>
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</div>
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</div>
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