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I always refer distributor issues to Jeff at Advanced Distributors. He kno=
ws distributors for British cars like no one else. His work and rebuilds a=
re perfect. Either points or Pertronix.
I don't have direct contact info handy, but Advanced Distributors is easy t=
o find. =20
Thanks for sharing what you have found. I'll check mine asap. I've been w=
anting to send Jeff a couple distributors to have a couple spares, one poin=
ts and one Pertronix. I also have 2 other cars that will need fresh distri=
butors eventually. =20
Dave H.
> On May 15, 2019 at 7:57 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Thanks, Bob. That's my read as well. I'll report if the replacement=
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> > > On May 15, 2019 at 10:54 PM Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcas=
t.net> wrote:
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> > I=E2=80=99ve had 2 of them fail with the magnets in the collar =
getting all askew. Doesn=E2=80=99t run well like that.
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> > From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Beha=
lf Of Randall
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2019 7:45 PM
> > To: TERRY SMITH; triumphs@autox.team.net
> > Subject: Re: [TR] Pertronix Failure?
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> > Well, maybe. Is it loose on the point can? Or does the point ca=
m just turn back and forth a bit?
> > Or does the whole mess move side to side?
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> > It normal for the point cam to be able to turn slightly. But th=
ere should be no side to side play; and the plastic piece should be tight o=
n the point cam.
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> > Side play is usually a sign of wear in the shaft bushing. If th=
e plastic piece is loose, its probably just time, heat and vibration vs che=
ap plastic.
> > -- Randall
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> > On 15 May 2019 18:41:10 GMT-07:00, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast=
.net mailto:terryrs@comcast.net > wrote:
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> > Okay, so I was wrong. I thought the intermittent engine miss o=
n the TR3 had to do with a dislodged damper on the forward carb. Test driv=
e said no, engine still stumbled, cleared, stumbled again. Changed fuel fi=
lters out because they were due anyway. Problem persisted. Checked the fl=
oats movements, all fine. Problem persisted. Finally just swapped the car=
bs entirely with spares that I knew worked, problem persisted. So...not fu=
el. If it were valves, it wouldn't be intermittent, unless a valve were st=
icking, right? =20
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> > Next up assumption is it's electrical. Swapped the distributor=
, wires and rotor with spares I knew worked. Problem persisted. Checked f=
or potential electrical shorts. Nothing obvious. Yeesh!
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> > I run a Pertronix. Went online and read about Pertronix troubl=
eshooting. Piece I read mentioned that the trigger magnet that spins on th=
e rotor can come loose and affect the timing. I checked this and LO! The =
trigger magnet is indeed loose. I seem to remember when I put it on some e=
ight or nine years ago, that it went on tight. But it now wiggles about an=
eighth of an inch back and forth, maybe a bit more. =20
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> > So question. Do I remember correctly, it's supposed to be tigh=
t? And second, what would cause it to come loose over time?
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> > I know it could still be a sticking valve, but this first. Tha=
nks, everyone for patience with this long message.
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> > Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
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</head><body><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sa=
ns-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I always refer distributor issues to Jef=
f at Advanced Distributors.  He knows distributors for British cars li=
ke no one else.  His work and rebuilds are perfect.  Either point=
s or Pertronix.</p><p style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, ari=
al, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">I don't have direct contact in=
fo handy, but Advanced Distributors is easy to find.  </p><p styl=
e=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb=
(51, 51, 51);">Thanks for sharing what you have found.  I'll check=
mine asap.  I've been wanting to send Jeff a couple distributors =
to have a couple spares, one points and one Pertronix.  I also have 2 =
other cars that will need fresh distributors eventually.  </p><p =
style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color:=
rgb(51, 51, 51);">Dave H.</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 15, 2019 at =
7:57 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote: <br> <br><p style=
=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333=
333;">Thanks, Bob.  That's my read as well.  I'll report =
if the replacement I've ordered from BP North doesn't fix it.</p><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite">On May 15, 2019 at 10:54 PM Kinderlehrer <kinde=
rlehrer@comcast.net> wrote: <br> <br><div class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c2=
3cf25df-WordSection1"><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color:=
#1f497d;">I’ve had 2 of them fail with the magnets in the collar get=
ting all askew. Doesn’t run well like that. </span></p><p class=3D"ox=
-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font=
-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">   </span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0=
pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">Bob </span></p><p=
class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: =
11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: #1f497d;">   </spa=
n></p><div><div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; pad=
ding: 3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal=
"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-ser=
if';">From:</span></strong><span style=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: '=
Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] <=
strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Randall<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, M=
ay 15, 2019 7:45 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> TERRY SMITH; triumphs@autox.tea=
m.net<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [TR] Pertronix Failure? </span></p><=
/div></div><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal"> </p><p =
class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.=
0pt;">Well, maybe. Is it loose on the point can? Or does the point cam just=
turn back and forth a bit?<br>Or does the whole mess move side to side?<br=
><br>It normal for the point cam to be able to turn slightly. But there sho=
uld be no side to side play; and the plastic piece should be tight on the p=
oint cam.<br><br>Side play is usually a sign of wear in the shaft bushing. =
If the plastic piece is loose, its probably just time, heat and vibration v=
s cheap plastic.<br>-- Randall</p><div><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf2=
5df-MsoNormal">On 15 May 2019 18:41:10 GMT-07:00, TERRY SMITH <<a href=
=3D"mailto:terryrs@comcast.net";>terryrs@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</p><p c=
lass=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">Okay, so I was wrong.  =
I thought the intermittent engine miss on the TR3 had to do with a dislodge=
d damper on the forward carb.  Test drive said no, engine still stumbl=
ed, cleared, stumbled again.  Changed fuel filters out because they we=
re due anyway.  Problem persisted.  Checked the floats movements,=
all fine.  Problem persisted.  Finally just swapped the carbs en=
tirely with spares that I knew worked, problem persisted.  So...not fu=
el.  If it were valves, it wouldn't be intermittent, unless a valv=
e were sticking, right?   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox=
-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-se=
rif'; color: #333333;">   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23=
cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif';=
color: #333333;">Next up assumption is it's electrical.  Swapped =
the distributor, wires and rotor with spares I knew worked.  Problem p=
ersisted.  Checked for potential electrical shorts.  Nothing obvi=
ous.  Yeesh! </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-defaul=
t-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #3333=
33;">   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-sty=
le"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">=
I run a Pertronix.  Went online and read about Pertronix troubleshooti=
ng.  Piece I read mentioned that the trigger magnet that spins on the =
rotor can come loose and affect the timing.  I checked this and LO!=
60; The trigger magnet is indeed loose.  I seem to remember when =
I put it on some eight or nine years ago, that it went on tight.  But =
it now wiggles about an eighth of an inch back and forth, maybe a bit more.=
   </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-sty=
le"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">=
  </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><=
span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">So qu=
estion.  Do I remember correctly, it's supposed to be tight? =
And second, what would cause it to come loose over time? </span></p><p cla=
ss=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family=
: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">   </span></p><p class=3D=
"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'He=
lvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">I know it could still be a sticking=
valve, but this first.  Thanks, everyone for patience with this long =
message. </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style">=
<span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;"> =
60; </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default-style"><span=
style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #333333;">Terry Smi=
th, '59 TR3A </span></p><p class=3D"ox-dae86b1d70-ox-7c23cf25df-default=
-style"><span style=3D"font-family: 'Helvetica','sans-serif'; color: #33333=
3;">New Hampshire </span></p></div></div></blockquote><p style=3D"font-size=
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