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Re: [TR] FW: auto fan controllers

To: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net, Randall <tr3driver@ca.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TR] FW: auto fan controllers
From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2019 00:05:37 +0000 (UTC)
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: triumphs@autox.team.net
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 my desire was to have the fan come on automatically, even though im using =
an alternator.
as you know Randall i live in the desert here in so cal and our worse days =
can get up to around 110.
if controlled by a manual switch on the dash my concern is that a moment of=
 forgetfulness will lead to a very quick disaster.
pulling up that long long the hill from escondido to temecula puts quite th=
e strain on the cooling system. especially when traffic is heavy and not so=
 fast. i find that i need the 14" fan full blast and air moving through the=
 radiator by normal means, and on occasion i have run the heater inside to =
keep things in line.



    On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 04:35:29 PM PDT, Randall <tr3driver@ca.r=
r.com> wrote: =20
=20
 Different ways to look at it. One of my goals was to have the fan run as l=
ittle as possible, to try and get by with the stock 19 amp generator. My th=
ought was that I didn't want the fan to run, if airflow through the radiato=
r was already sufficient to keep it cool; even if the water coming out of t=
he engine was "hot".

Dunno if that really makes sense, but I've been pleased with the result. St=
opped at a traffic light or similar, the gauge slowly rises until the needl=
e points to just about the '5' in "185". Then the fan comes on, and it drop=
s back to about the '8' (which is just barely above where it sits going dow=
n the road).

Only other time the fan runs is sometimes when getting off the freeway, it =
will run for a few seconds until I get back up to 30-40 mph.
-- Randall

On 28 August 2019 16:26:13 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wro=
te:

This is the sensor I used.=C2=A0 Seems to work fine.=C2=A0 =C2=A0https://ww=
w.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=
=3DUTF8&psc=3D1




Also using a 3/8ths standard pipe thread (ISTR) T adapter, I screwed it in =
where the heater valve mounts to the head.=C2=A0 A plus is the temp it kick=
s on at is measured where the hottest part of the engine (I also STR) is, b=
etween number 3 and 4 cylinders.=C2=A0=C2=A0

On August 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:=20
=20

I use a controller like this.=C2=A0 lasts for many years.

=C2=A0

https://www.zoro.com/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikc=
onnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-product?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA=
867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE

=C2=A0

=C2=A0

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Frank Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:23 AM
To: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
Cc: triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: [TR] auto fan controllers

=C2=A0

i have been using an auto fan controller for my TR3.=20

see the link below for the type i have been using.=20

i first used it without a relay and then put in a relay.=20

doesn't seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 ye=
ars.=20

and its year 3 on my tr3.=20

what are you guys using and how reliable have you found them?=20

being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill and solder a fitting=
 into the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years rather than pull that =
darn front clip again.=20

 =C2=A0=20

this is what i have been using:=20

Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car Radiator kit Eco=
nomy | eBay=20

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Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car Radiator kit ...=
=20

Adjustable Yes. Mounting Bracket. Built In Display No. Plug n Play Harness =
No. Accuracy 5 Degree. Sensor Mount F...=20
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thanks=20

Frank=20



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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">my desire was to have the fa=
n come on automatically, even though im using an alternator.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
lse">as you know Randall i live in the desert here in so cal and our worse =
days can get up to around 110.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">=
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">if controlled by a manual =
switch on the dash my concern is that a moment of forgetfulness will lead t=
o a very quick disaster.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">pulling up that long long the hi=
ll from escondido to temecula puts quite the strain on the cooling system. =
especially when traffic is heavy and not so fast. i find that i need the 14=
" fan full blast and air moving through the radiator by normal means, and o=
n occasion i have run the heater inside to keep things in line.</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div><br>=
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                    On Wednesday, August 28, 2019, 04:35:29 PM PDT, Randall=
 &lt;tr3driver@ca.rr.com&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281"><div>Different wa=
ys to look at it. One of my goals was to have the fan run as little as poss=
ible, to try and get by with the stock 19 amp generator. My thought was tha=
t I didn't want the fan to run, if airflow through the radiator was already=
 sufficient to keep it cool; even if the water coming out of the engine was=
 "hot".<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Dunno if that really makes sen=
se, but I've been pleased with the result. Stopped at a traffic light or si=
milar, the gauge slowly rises until the needle points to just about the '5'=
 in "185". Then the fan comes on, and it drops back to about the '8' (which=
 is just barely above where it sits going down the road).<br clear=3D"none"=
><br clear=3D"none">Only other time the fan runs is sometimes when getting =
off the freeway, it will run for a few seconds until I get back up to 30-40=
 mph.<br clear=3D"none">-- Randall<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><di=
v class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281yqt1690585353" id=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv33523=
44281yqtfd67796"><div class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281gmail_quote">On 28 A=
ugust 2019 16:26:13 GMT-05:00, TERRY SMITH &lt;terryrs@comcast.net&gt; wrot=
e:<blockquote class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204);padding-left:1e=
x;">
<p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:r=
gb(51, 51, 51);">This is the sensor I used.&nbsp; Seems to work fine.&nbsp;=
 &nbsp;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9K=
QG/ref=3Dppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1" rel=3D"nofol=
low" target=3D"_blank">https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003PB9KQG/ref=3Dp=
px_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=3DUTF8&amp;psc=3D1</a></p><p style=3D"font=
-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);"=
><br clear=3D"none"></p><p style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, a=
rial, sans-serif;color:rgb(51, 51, 51);">Also using a 3/8ths standard pipe =
thread (ISTR) T adapter, I screwed it in where the heater valve mounts to t=
he head.&nbsp; A plus is the temp it kicks on at is measured where the hott=
est part of the engine (I also STR) is, between number 3 and 4 cylinders.&n=
bsp;&nbsp;</p><blockquote type=3D"cite">On August 28, 2019 at 3:11 PM dave =
&lt;dave@ranteer.com&gt; wrote: <br clear=3D"none"> <br clear=3D"none"><div=
 class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-WordSection1"><p class=3D"y=
dp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">I use a controller like thi=
s.&nbsp; lasts for many years.</p><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87=
dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1a=
a9af-MsoNormal"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.zoro.com/carling-tech=
nologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikconnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/fe=
ature-product?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9=
QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">=
https://www.zoro.com/carling-technologies-toggle-switch-spst-10a-250v-quikc=
onnct-2fa53-73-tabs/i/G3266566/feature-product?gclid=3DCjwKCAjwzJjrBRBvEiwA=
867bymi1ci91NdZrzKUKz1nB2WpPaBCI9QU85oYWvQNzadqnP0p7F8kMRRoChjMQAvD_BwE</a>=
</p><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>=
<p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div=
><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in=
 0in 0in;"><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><st=
rong>From:</strong> Triumphs &lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <stron=
g>On Behalf Of </strong>Frank Fisher<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Sent:</stron=
g> Wednesday, August 28, 2019 11:23 AM<br clear=3D"none"><strong>To:</stron=
g> Frank Fisher &lt;yellowtr3@yahoo.com&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>Cc:</=
strong> triumphs &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><strong>=
Subject:</strong> [TR] auto fan controllers</p></div></div><p class=3D"ydp3=
aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">i have been using an auto f=
an controller for my TR3. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3=
352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fami=
ly:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">see the link below for the type i have been us=
ing. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9a=
f-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-=
serif;">i first used it without a relay and then put in a relay. </span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">doesn't=
 seem to matter how i wire them they all seem to last only 2 to 3 years. </=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"=
>and its year 3 on my tr3. </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv=
3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-fam=
ily:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">what are you guys using and how reliable have=
 you found them? </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281=
ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helve=
tica', sans-serif;">being a TR3 im not going to pull the radiator to drill =
and solder a fitting into the top. ill continue to replace every 2 years ra=
ther than pull that darn front clip again. </span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"> &nbsp; </span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=
=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;">this is what i h=
ave been using: </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281o=
x-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvet=
ica', sans-serif;"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"https://www.ebay.com/itm/Therm=
ostatic-Cool-Temp-Fan-Control-Adjustable-12v-Volt-Car-Radiator-kit-Economy/=
273823671618?hash=3Ditem3fc129a542:g:7ocAAOSw7DBcxCSt" rel=3D"nofollow" tar=
get=3D"_blank">Thermostatic Cool Temp Fan Control Adjustable 12v Volt Car R=
adiator kit Economy | eBay</a> </span></p><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv33=
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t-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"> &nbsp; </span></p></di=
v><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"> &nbsp; </sp=
an></p></div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-serif;"> &nbsp=
; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-87dc1aa9af-M=
soNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica', sans-ser=
if;"> &nbsp; </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352344281ox-8=
7dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:'Helvetica=
', sans-serif;">thanks </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp3aafa4a3yiv3352=
344281ox-87dc1aa9af-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:=
'Helvetica', sans-serif;">Frank </span></p></div></div></div></blockquote><=
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