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If you use the 1=E2=80=9D shortened springs without spacers to regain =
original height with no shims on the lower A Arms you still can not get =
the proper camber. Been there and done that, only way was to somehow =
lengthen the upper A-arms. I have modified uppers which now allow =
adjustment out to get 1 degree negative camber. Never tried with spacers =
since I wanted the car lowered an inch.
JVV
From: Greg Lemon=20
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2019 7:10 PM
To: Triumphs=20
Subject: [TR] Fwd: TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
RE: Adjusting front camber, can't you do the with the shims that mount =
between lower a-arms and the frame?=20
Also agree the rear sounds like a shock problem.
Greg Lemon
TR250
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From: Jerry Van Vlack <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
Date: Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 5:15 AM
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
To: G.D. Huggins <gdhuggins@genfiniti.com>, Triumph Mailing List =
<triumphs@autox.team.net>
I agree with Mark, focus on shocks and rear shock links especially. I =
once=20
broke a rear shock link and the car bounced badly. I'd stay away from =
rear=20
tube conversions, those upgraded rear lever shocks you're ordering will =
work=20
just fine. If the new shocks don't fix the issues and you still want to=20
replace springs I'd suggest buying the Goodparts set offered for a TR6 =
along=20
with spacers to regain original height. If you decide to go lower you'll =
have front and rear camber issues to deal with. Goodparts rear trailing =
arm=20
brackets will allow you to regain correct camber but the front will go =
to=20
too much negative camber. The only way to correct the front is to =
somehow=20
modify the upper A-arms or buy one of the English suppliers kits for =
upper=20
A-arm adjustment. My guess is your springs are just fine and you'll find =
your problem is associated with the rear shocks and or shock links.=20
Goodparts also makes an excellent replacement shock link kit too. Let us =
know how it works out.
JVV
-----Original Message-----=20
From: G.D. Huggins
Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:45 PM
To: Triumph Mailing List
Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road Springs
All,
After almost eight years of driving bliss, with just under 18K miles, =
it's=20
time to replace what I suspect are the original road springs.
The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the rear. Take a curve =
on=20
a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. losing its contact =
with=20
the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel back down quickly=20
enough.
As far as shocks go, I=E2=80=99ve got Spax adjustable up front, and just =
ordered=20
some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics for the rear.
I=E2=80=99ve gotten into some research, and everything seems to be =
pointing toward=20
three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and competition.
I am leaning toward the =E2=80=9Cuprated=E2=80=9D variety to stiffen the =
ride, but I want to=20
keep stock height to not effect wheel camber.
Any experienced-based suggestions?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
Guy D. Huggins
1965 Triumph TR4A
CTC 63569LO
Online project diary at http://www.genfiniti.com/triumph
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<DIV>If you use the 1=E2=80=9D shortened springs without spacers to =
regain original=20
height with no shims on the lower A Arms you still can not get the =
proper=20
camber. Been there and done that, only way was to somehow lengthen the =
upper=20
A-arms. I have modified uppers which now allow adjustment out to get 1 =
degree=20
negative camber. Never tried with spacers since I wanted the car lowered =
an=20
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<DIV></DIV>RE: Adjusting front camber, can't you do the with the shims =
that=20
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<DIV>Also agree the rear sounds like a shock problem.</DIV>
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<STRONG class=3Dgmail_sendername>Jerry Van Vlack</STRONG> <SPAN><<A=20
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Sep 2, 2019, 5:15 AM<BR>Subject: Re: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road=20
Springs<BR>To: G.D. Huggins <<A rel=3Dnoreferrer=20
target=3D_blank>gdhuggins@genfiniti.com</A>>, Triumph Mailing List =
<<A=20
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agree with Mark, focus on shocks and rear shock links especially. I once =
<BR>broke a rear shock link and the car bounced badly. I'd stay away =
from rear=20
<BR>tube conversions, those upgraded rear lever shocks you're ordering =
will work=20
<BR>just fine. If the new shocks don't fix the issues and you still want =
to=20
<BR>replace springs I'd suggest buying the Goodparts set offered for a =
TR6 along=20
<BR>with spacers to regain original height. If you decide to go lower =
you'll=20
<BR>have front and rear camber issues to deal with. Goodparts rear =
trailing arm=20
<BR>brackets will allow you to regain correct camber but the front will =
go to=20
<BR>too much negative camber. The only way to correct the front is to =
somehow=20
<BR>modify the upper A-arms or buy one of the English suppliers kits for =
upper=20
<BR>A-arm adjustment. My guess is your springs are just fine and you'll =
find=20
<BR>your problem is associated with the rear shocks and or shock links.=20
<BR>Goodparts also makes an excellent replacement shock link kit too. =
Let us=20
<BR>know how it works out.<BR><BR>JVV<BR><BR>-----Original Message-----=20
<BR>From: G.D. Huggins<BR>Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2019 10:45 =
PM<BR>To:=20
Triumph Mailing List<BR>Subject: [TR] TR4A - Need Advice on Road=20
Springs<BR><BR>All,<BR><BR>After almost eight years of driving bliss, =
with just=20
under 18K miles, it's <BR>time to replace what I suspect are the =
original road=20
springs.<BR>The car has gotten way too bouncy, especially in the =
rear. =20
Take a curve on <BR>a rough road, and it rear steers something awful. =
losing its=20
contact with <BR>the road, as if the spring is not forcing the wheel =
back down=20
quickly <BR>enough.<BR>As far as shocks go, I=E2=80=99ve got Spax =
adjustable up front,=20
and just ordered <BR>some heavy duty Armstrongs from Apple Hydraulics =
for the=20
rear.<BR><BR>I=E2=80=99ve gotten into some research, and everything =
seems to be pointing=20
toward <BR>three grades of stiffness; original, uprated and =
competition.<BR>I am=20
leaning toward the =E2=80=9Cuprated=E2=80=9D variety to stiffen the =
ride, but I want to <BR>keep=20
stock height to not effect wheel camber.<BR><BR>Any experienced-based=20
suggestions?<BR><BR>Thanks in advance.<BR><BR><BR>Cheers,<BR><BR>Guy D.=20
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