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The typical state, and national, government employee/department, knee jerk =
reaction when they encounter something they have no answer for and no one t=
o tell them what to do, is to simply deny permission/approval, whatever.
This i because in all government offices the primary overriding priority wh=
en a problem is encountered is to first, and above all else, assign fault t=
o someone. Not until that fault/responsibility for the issue has been assig=
ned can they move forward on a solution.
In the private sector just the opposite is true. Analyze the problem. Deter=
mine a solution. Implement it. Find a way to deal with and/or prevent a rec=
urrence and move on. Store the solution for future reference.
This why the private sector is always more efficient than government will e=
ver be.
Randall Reihing
1959 TR3A
1960 TR3A
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From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Randall <tr3d=
river@ca.rr.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:25:16 PM
To: 'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [EXTERNAL] Re: VINs
I suspect it depends a lot on which clerk you get at the DMV. There are a =
lot of special rules for old cars, which the average clerk doesn=92t seem t=
o know much about (nor often their supervisor).
The TR3A I bought around 1983 was an LO car, but the original paperwork had=
the wrong number entirely. Not sure how that happened, but no one noticed=
for many years until the state started automatically matching insurance po=
licies to registrations. Even then, the DMV didn=92t care, it was just a h=
assle having to take in proof of insurance to get my registration.
I finally took them the car, showed the commission plate, and they wrote a =
new title with -LO on it.
More recently, I bought a 56 TR3 that came with California =93black plates=
=94. I wanted to keep the black plates on the car, but the DMV clerk insis=
ted on writing up the paperwork under the =93Year of Manufacture=94 provisi=
on, which I told her did not apply to my car. (Black plates didn=92t come =
out until 1963.} Of course Sacramento denied the application. I went back=
to the DMV quoting chapter and verse from the vehicle code, spoke to the b=
ranch supervisor and waited several hours before they finally admitted they=
did not know how to handle my application. They eventually let me fill ou=
t a blank =93statement of facts=94 and sent that to Sacramento (who approve=
d my black plates).
The federal standards defining =93VIN=94 didn=92t come out until 1981, so t=
hey don=92t apply to our cars. That=92s why we don=92t have 17 letters and=
numbers, and can have =91O=92.
-- Randall
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">The typical state, and natio=
nal, government employee/department, knee jerk reaction when they encounter=
something they have no answer for and no one to tell them what to do,=
is to simply deny permission/approval, whatever. </p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">This i because in all govern=
ment offices the primary overriding priority when a problem is encountered =
is to first, and above all else, assign fault to someone. Not until that&nb=
sp;fault/responsibility for the issue has been
assigned can they move forward on a solution.</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">In the private sector just the op=
posite is true. Analyze the problem. Determine a solution. Implem=
ent it. Find a way to deal with and/or prevent a recurrence
<i>and move on</i>. Store the solution for future reference. </p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0"><br>
</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">This why the private sector is al=
ways more efficient than government will ever be. </p>
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<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">Randall Reihing</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">1959 TR3A</p>
<p style=3D"margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0">1960 TR3A</p>
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;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 7, 2019 10:25:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Triumphs' <triumphs@autox.team.net><br>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">The TR3A I bought around 1983 was an LO car, but t=
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t happened, but no one noticed for many years until the state started autom=
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registrations. Even then, the DMV didn=92t care, it was just a hassl=
e having to take in proof of insurance to get my registration.</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">I finally took them the car, showed the commission=
plate, and they wrote a new title with -LO on it.</p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">More recently, I bought a 56 TR3 that came with Ca=
lifornia =93black plates=94. I wanted to keep the black plates on the=
car, but the DMV clerk insisted on writing up the paperwork under the =93Y=
ear of Manufacture=94 provision, which I told her
did not apply to my car. (Black plates didn=92t come out until 1963.=
} Of course Sacramento denied the application. I went back to t=
he DMV quoting chapter and verse from the vehicle code, spoke to the branch=
supervisor and waited several hours before they
finally admitted they did not know how to handle my application. The=
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to Sacramento (who approved my black plates).</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">The federal standards defining =93VIN=94 didn=92t =
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