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To: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [EXTERNAL] Re: VINs
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Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2019 08:59:22 -0600
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Recently went through the =E2=80=9Cno-title-title=E2=80=9D process in Texas.=
  Trailered the car three hours away to have a special DPS officer look at t=
he engine number and give me a form, 5 minutes.   Don=E2=80=99t know the rea=
soning, didn=E2=80=99t ask questions, but in Texas they title from the engin=
e number in cars 1954 and older except for Fords.  =20

IMHO when it comes to older cars, most DMV systems have a way to work around=
 the variants, i.e. 0 v O.  Just don=E2=80=99t go to the wrong window at the=
 wrong office on the wrong day. =20

Bill

Cactus Jack drinks coffee black......BWS

> On Nov 7, 2019, at 7:14 AM, TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:
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An agency that records VIN's, doesn't accept a legitimate VIN????

Why am I reminded of the man who had to prove to the Social Security Adminis=
tration that he wasn't dead? =20

--Terry Smith
> On November 7, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichardnet> w=
rote:=20
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> That=E2=80=99s the whole point.  And there is also the insurance company=E2=
=80=99s note =E2=80=93 should it have what is on the vin plate or what in on=
 the title?\
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> But you are in Ohio, Randall =E2=80=93 maybe they are more understanding t=
here !!
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> Andrew
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> Jackson, Michigan =E2=80=93 where the =E2=80=9Claw=E2=80=9D is:  no =E2=80=
=9COs=E2=80=9D on titles
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> From: Reihing, Randall S. [mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu]=20
> Sent: Thursday, November 7, 2019 7:28 AM
> To: Brian Kemp; Andrew Uprichard; 'Triumphs'
> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
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> How does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O"  on t=
he riveted metal plate still on the car itself? How is it legal to have a ti=
tle with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the vehicle's riveted metal pl=
ate?
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> Randall Reihing
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> 1960 TR3A
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> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Brian Kemp <=
bk13@earthlink.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM
> To: Andrew Uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>; 'Triumphs' <triumphs@auto=
x.team.net>
> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs
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> My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero.  I told them it should be a=
n Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh and I was wrong.  No=
t worth having an argument with the DMV.  The insurance company was fine wit=
h whatever the title said.
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> Brian
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> On 11/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:
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> I just went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.  T=
he old title appropriately ended =E2=80=9CLO=E2=80=9D, but I was told that =E2=
=80=9COs=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CIs=E2=80=9D are no longer acceptable in title=
s.  So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to =E2=80=9CL0=E2=80=9D.  Then=
 I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to them and h=
ave them send me a proof of insurance with =E2=80=9CL0=E2=80=9D.
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> Anyone else come across this?  Maybe it has been going on for years:  I ha=
ve 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.
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> Andrew Uprichard
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Recently went through the =E2=80=9Cno-title=
-title=E2=80=9D process in Texas. &nbsp;Trailered the car three hours away t=
o have a special DPS officer look at the engine number and give me a form, 5=
 minutes. &nbsp; Don=E2=80=99t know the reasoning, didn=E2=80=99t ask questi=
ons, but in Texas they title from the engine number in cars 1954 and older e=
xcept for Fords. &nbsp;&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>IMHO when it comes to older=
 cars, most DMV systems have a way to work around the variants, i.e. 0 v O. &=
nbsp;Just don=E2=80=99t go to the wrong window at the wrong office on the wr=
ong day. &nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Bill<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Cactus=
 Jack drinks coffee black......BWS</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote typ=
e=3D"cite">On Nov 7, 2019, at 7:14 AM, TERRY SMITH &lt;terryrs@comcast.net&g=
t; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

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  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
   An agency that records VIN's, doesn't accept a legitimate VIN????
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
   <br>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
   Why am I reminded of the man who had to prove to the Social Security Admi=
nistration that he wasn't dead?&nbsp;&nbsp;
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
   <br>
  </div>
  <div style=3D"font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; c=
olor: rgb(51, 51, 51);">
   --Terry Smith
  </div>
  <blockquote type=3D"cite">
   On November 7, 2019 at 7:43 AM Andrew Uprichard &lt;auprichard@uprichardn=
et&gt; wrote:=20
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   <div class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-WordSection1">
    <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; c=
olor: #1f497d;">That=E2=80=99s the whole point.&nbsp; And there is also the i=
nsurance company=E2=80=99s note =E2=80=93 should it have what is on the vin p=
late or what in on the title?\ </span></p>
    <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; c=
olor: #1f497d;"> &nbsp; </span></p>
    <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; c=
olor: #1f497d;">But you are in Ohio, Randall =E2=80=93 maybe they are more u=
nderstanding there !!<br><br>Andrew </span></p>
    <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; c=
olor: #1f497d;">Jackson, Michigan =E2=80=93 where the =E2=80=9Claw=E2=80=9D i=
s:&nbsp; no =E2=80=9COs=E2=80=9D on titles </span></p>
    <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; c=
olor: #1f497d;"> &nbsp; </span></p>
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     <div style=3D"border: none; border-top: solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt; padding: 3=
.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
      <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size:=
 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';">From:</span></strong><span sty=
le=3D"font-size: 10.0pt; font-family: 'Tahoma','sans-serif';"> Reihing, Rand=
all S. [mailto:Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu] <br><strong>Sent:</strong> Thurs=
day, November 7, 2019 7:28 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Brian Kemp; Andrew Upr=
ichard; 'Triumphs'<br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs=
 </span></p>
     </div>
    </div>
    <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Ho=
w does changing the "O" to a "0" on the paper title, match the "O" &nbsp;on t=
he&nbsp;riveted metal plate still&nbsp;on the car itself? How is it legal to=
 have a title with a VIN that does not match the VIN on the vehicle's&nbsp;r=
iveted metal plate? </span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;"> &=
nbsp; </span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">Ra=
ndall Reihing </span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">19=
60 TR3A </span></p>
    <p><span style=3D"font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">19=
59 TR3A </span></p>
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ad-MsoNormal">
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    <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal"><strong><span style=3D"font-size: 1=
1.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; color: black;">From:</span></str=
ong><span style=3D"font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: 'Calibri','sans-serif'; c=
olor: black;"> Triumphs &lt;triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; on behalf of=
 Brian Kemp &lt;bk13@earthlink.net&gt;<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Wednesday, N=
ovember 6, 2019 8:50:45 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Andrew Uprichard &lt;aupr=
ichard@uprichard.net&gt;; 'Triumphs' &lt;triumphs@autox.team.net&gt;<br><str=
ong>Subject:</strong> [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] VINs</span></p>
    <div>
     <p class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    </div>
    <div>
     <p style=3D"margin-bottom: 12.0pt; background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b=
5f35ad-MsoNormal">My California TR6 title also ends L0 - L zero.&nbsp; I tol=
d them it should be an Oh for Overdrive, but they said I couldn't have an Oh=
 and I was wrong.&nbsp; Not worth having an argument with the DMV.&nbsp; The=
 insurance company was fine with whatever the title said.<br><br>Brian</p>
     <div>
      <p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-MsoNormal">On 1=
1/6/2019 1:13 PM, Andrew Uprichard wrote:</p>
     </div>
     <blockquote>
      <div>
       <p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">I j=
ust went to get a title on a TR which came with a factory overdrive.&nbsp; T=
he old title appropriately ended =E2=80=9CLO=E2=80=9D, but I was told that =E2=
=80=9COs=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9CIs=E2=80=9D are no longer acceptable in title=
s.&nbsp; So I had to change the VIN (on the title) to =E2=80=9CL0=E2=80=9D.&=
nbsp; Then I had to call the insurance company to explain the same story to t=
hem and have them send me a proof of insurance with =E2=80=9CL0=E2=80=9D.</p=
>
       <p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">&n=
bsp;</p>
       <p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">An=
yone else come across this?&nbsp; Maybe it has been going on for years:&nbsp=
; I have 4 cars with overdrive, but this was the first factory one.</p>
       <p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">&n=
bsp;</p>
       <p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">An=
drew Uprichard</p>
       <p style=3D"background: white;" class=3D"ox-8a1b5f35ad-xmsonormal">Ja=
ckson, MI</p>
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