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To: "'wbeech'" <wbeech@flash.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] TUMBLER
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Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 18:30:22 -0800
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Bill,

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I don=E2=80=99t believe that there was any cad plating on my TR3, I =
think everything ended up shiny zinc. =20

=20

The AH had cad plating on the weird thread body fasteners, some plates, =
jamb nuts and odd fittings for the hydraulic lines, sheet metal screws, =
and other odd fittings.  Some of the small =C2=BC=E2=80=9D fine thread =
bolts were cad plated too, about 10% maybe?  By and large, most of the =
hardware was shiny zinc plating on that one.  I may have gotten it =
wrong, but all of the 10/32 posidrive stuff including nuts and washers I =
had done in shiny zinc.  The clamps that hold the gauges to the dash are =
also cad plated.

=20

I did a fair amount on my TR6 too but not all of it.  A lot more of that =
one was cad plated.

=20

I had a bunch of oddball stuff that I had accumulated over the years =
including brake fittings and whitworth stuff =E2=80=93 I had about 20# =
of that stuff shiny zinc plated a few years ago.  I have it all =
organized by size, length and thread and use it as spares, a mini =
hardware store.

=20

I have had a lot of =E2=80=9Cjunk=E2=80=9D come through here over the =
past 20 years or so, I typically remove anything that is worth saving.  =
When somebody=E2=80=99s car comes in for a repair and it has a stripped =
or wrong bolt in it, I try to match it up with a correct spare, I get a =
kick out of the various markings on the bolt heads and seeing everything =
match on a given assembly.  =E2=80=9CUnbrako=E2=80=9D on the TR brake =
and suspension bits.  =E2=80=9CR=E2=80=9D for the Austin Healey motor =
mounts, etc. =20

=20

=20

=20

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From: wbeech <wbeech@flash.net>=20
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 3:26 PM
To: Jonas Payne <jpayne@jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com>
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] TUMBLER

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When do you zinc plate and when do you use cadmium?

=20

Interesting topic as I have been re-plating wheel nuts today using the =
Eastman zinc plating kit.  Works pretty well in that it does a good job =
of plating but don=E2=80=99t seem to be able to get the shine that new =
hardware has.

=20

Bill

=20

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of =
Jonas Payne
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 12:40 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] TUMBLER

=20

Dave,

=20

They work, but they take forever and it=E2=80=99s a good idea to =
=E2=80=9Cpre clean=E2=80=9D=20

=20

On the last 2 cars I restored, I took every single last bit of =
=E2=80=9Cplated=E2=80=9D hardware from the car to a local plating shop =
in a couple of 5 gallon buckets, grease, rust and all.  Springs, screws, =
washers, plates, nuts bolts, all of it. =20

=20

Just have to take photos and notes to get things back in the right =
place.

=20

For $120, an entire car worth of clean, shiny, rust free cadmium and/or =
light zinc plated hardware was returned in about a week.

=20

Just have to specify the finish you want.

=20

I=E2=80=99ll never clean big piles of hardware again.

=20

For small jobs (say a transmission or a front end re-do) I just put =
hardware in a bucket of paint thinner for a few days and give them a =
periodic spin with a mixer/paddle blade on a cordless drill. =20

=20

Couple rounds of that and a finish wash in some muriatic acid  to eat up =
the rust and remaining grease (same method) (don=E2=80=99t leave the =
bits in too long). =20

=20

Rinse in clean water, dry, and hit with a light coat of clear spray =
paint.

=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

=20

Jonas Payne

PBR Consulting Services, LLC

702.882.6711

=20

We have Moved!

Our new offices are locted at:

=20

3191 E. Warm Springs Rd. #13

Las Vegas, NV 89120

=20

From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net =
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2020 10:21 AM
Subject: [TR] TUMBLER

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has anyone used a tumbler to clean nuts and bolts?  i see eastwood and =
harbor freight both have them

=20

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class=3DMsoNormal>Bill,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
don=E2=80=99t believe that there was any cad plating on my TR3, I think =
everything ended up shiny zinc.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>The AH had =
cad plating on the weird thread body fasteners, some plates, jamb nuts =
and odd fittings for the hydraulic lines, sheet metal screws, and other =
odd fittings.=C2=A0 Some of the small =C2=BC=E2=80=9D fine thread bolts =
were cad plated too, about 10% maybe?=C2=A0 By and large, most of the =
hardware was shiny zinc plating on that one.=C2=A0 I may have gotten it =
wrong, but all of the 10/32 posidrive stuff including nuts and washers I =
had done in shiny zinc.=C2=A0 The clamps that hold the gauges to the =
dash are also cad plated.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I did a fair =
amount on my TR6 too but not all of it. =C2=A0A lot more of that one was =
cad plated.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I had a bunch of oddball stuff that I had accumulated =
over the years including brake fittings and whitworth stuff =E2=80=93 I =
had about 20# of that stuff shiny zinc plated a few years ago.=C2=A0 I =
have it all organized by size, length and thread and use it as spares, a =
mini hardware store.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>I have had a =
lot of =E2=80=9Cjunk=E2=80=9D come through here over the past 20 years =
or so, I typically remove anything that is worth saving.=C2=A0 When =
somebody=E2=80=99s car comes in for a repair and it has a stripped or =
wrong bolt in it, I try to match it up with a correct spare, I get a =
kick out of the various markings on the bolt heads and seeing everything =
match on a given assembly.=C2=A0 =E2=80=9CUnbrako=E2=80=9D on the TR =
brake and suspension bits. =C2=A0=E2=80=9CR=E2=80=9D for the Austin =
Healey motor mounts, etc.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> wbeech =
&lt;wbeech@flash.net&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 31, 2020 3:26 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> Jonas Payne =
&lt;jpayne@jpaynepbr.onmicrosoft.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] =
TUMBLER<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>When do you zinc plate and when do you use =
cadmium?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Interesting topic as I =
have been re-plating wheel nuts today using the Eastman zinc plating =
kit.&nbsp; Works pretty well in that it does a good job of plating but =
don=E2=80=99t seem to be able to get the shine that new hardware =
has.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bill<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:triumphs-bounces@a=
utox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jonas Payne<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, January 31, 2020 12:40 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] TUMBLER<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dave,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>They work, =
but they take forever and it=E2=80=99s a good idea to =E2=80=9Cpre =
clean=E2=80=9D <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>On the last =
2 cars I restored, I took every single last bit of =
=E2=80=9Cplated=E2=80=9D hardware from the car to a local plating shop =
in a couple of 5 gallon buckets, grease, rust and all.&nbsp; Springs, =
screws, washers, plates, nuts bolts, all of it.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Just have to =
take photos and notes to get things back in the right =
place.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For $120, an entire car worth of clean, shiny, rust =
free cadmium and/or light zinc plated hardware was returned in about a =
week.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Just have to specify the finish you =
want.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99ll never clean big piles of hardware =
again.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>For small jobs (say a transmission or a front end =
re-do) I just put hardware in a bucket of paint thinner for a few days =
and give them a periodic spin with a mixer/paddle blade on a cordless =
drill.&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Couple rounds of that and a finish wash in some =
muriatic acid &nbsp;to eat up the rust and remaining grease (same =
method) (don=E2=80=99t leave the bits in too long).&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rinse in clean water, dry, and hit with a light coat =
of clear spray paint.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jonas =
Payne<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>PBR Consulting Services, =
LLC<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>702.882.6711<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><i>We =
have Moved!<o:p></o:p></i></b></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Our new offices =
are locted at:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>3191 E. Warm =
Springs Rd. #13<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Las Vegas, NV =
89120<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>triumphs-bounces@autox.te=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:dave@ranteer.com";>dave@ranteer.com</a><br><b>Sent:</b> =
Friday, January 31, 2020 10:21 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b=
>Subject:</b> [TR] TUMBLER<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:black'>h=
as anyone used a tumbler to clean nuts and bolts?&nbsp; i see eastwood =
and harbor freight both have them<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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