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Re: [TR] RPM speed calc

To: John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [TR] RPM speed calc
From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2020 17:34:17 -0500
Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net, Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca>
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Thank you John, this is actually. Non-OD car with the 3.70 rear end.  OD ins=
talled later in life by some PO.  A very nice driving combo.=20

Bill

On Jun 1, 2020, at 2:36 PM, John Macartney <John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk> wr=
ote:

=EF=BB=BFIt=E2=80=99s important to remember that cars without overdrive had a=
 higher axle ratio than those with it. As an example, the GT6+ had a 3.27 fi=
nal drive for non overdrive and 3.89 for overdrive. Just to complicate thing=
s, it was entirely possible to order a 3.27 diff with overdrive on top! The f=
actory never promoted this facility for fairly obvious reasons. My own GT6 m=
k 2 was supplied like that becxause I knew my way around the factory build b=
ooks. Iit made an excellent cruiser with good fuel consumption but could not=
 pull more than 4000 rpm, even downhill on a motorway. That said, refuelling=
 was a little less frequent.

Jonmac

At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:
Lord Uxbridge:  =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - I=E2=80=99ve lost my leg=E2=80=9D
Duke of Wellington: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - so you have!=E2=80=9D


> On 1 Jun 2020, at 19:41, Dave MacKay <dave@mdmackay.ca> wrote:
>=20
> >Date: Sun, 31 May 2020 16:52:23 -0500
> >From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
> >Subject: [TR] RPM speed calc
> >=20
> >Came across this calculator with all the right input fields.  But, I wond=
er how accurate it really is given the following input.
> >TR3 with a 3.7 rear, OD at redline of 5,000rpm.  Vredestein 165R/15 tires=
, 25.4? diameter.   Should be moving along at 124mph!
> >=20
> >https://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_speed_rpm.htm
> >=20
> >Anyone get a different answer?
> >Bill
> =20
> Here (attached) is a spreadsheet that I wrote to calculate speed versus rp=
m given different parameters. I wrote it to check my speedo after I installe=
d an HVDA transmission. If the spreadsheet doesn=E2=80=99t make it through t=
he list as an attachment, just e-mail me directly and I=E2=80=99ll send it t=
o you.
> =20
> With a standard Triumph gearbox + overdrive, and the parameters you gave, I=
 calculate speed at 5000 rpm in top gear (with overdrive) as being 124.5 mph=
. Note that, I think that the tire diameter is 25.25=E2=80=9D, slightly less=
 than you indicated.
> =20
> I hasten to add that calculating a speed and believing it=E2=80=99s achiev=
able are two different things!
> =20
> Regards,
> =20
> Dave MacKay
> 1960 TR3A s/n 68639L
> near Toronto, Canada
> <Triumph rpm to mph.xls>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Thank you John, this is ac=
tually. Non-OD car with the 3.70 rear end. &nbsp;OD installed later in life b=
y some PO. &nbsp;A very nice driving combo.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bill</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On Jun 1, 2020, at 2:3=
6 PM, John Macartney &lt;John.Macartney@ukpips.org.uk&gt; wrote:<br><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"tex=
t/html; charset=3Dutf-8">It=E2=80=99s important to remember that cars withou=
t overdrive had a higher axle ratio than those with it. As an example, the G=
T6+ had a 3.27 final drive for non overdrive and 3.89 for overdrive. Just to=
 complicate things, it was entirely possible to order a 3.27 diff with overd=
rive on top! The factory never promoted this facility for fairly obvious rea=
sons. My own GT6 mk 2 was supplied like that becxause I knew my way around t=
he factory build books. Iit made an excellent cruiser with good fuel consump=
tion but could not pull more than 4000 rpm, even downhill on a motorway. Tha=
t said, refuelling was a little less frequent.<div><br></div><div>Jonmac<br>=
<br><div dir=3D"ltr">At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:<div>Lord Uxbridge: &nb=
sp;=E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - I=E2=80=99ve lost my leg=E2=80=9D</div><div>Duke o=
f Wellington: =E2=80=9CBy God, Sir - so you have!=E2=80=9D</div><div><br></d=
iv></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>On 1 Jun 2020, at 19:41, Dave MacKay &lt;<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay.ca";>dave@mdmackay.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div>=
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--></style><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;Date: S=
un, 31 May 2020 16:52:23 -0500</p><p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;From: bill b=
eecher &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:notakitcar@yahoo.com";>notakitcar@yahoo.com</a>&=
gt;</p><p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;Subject: [TR] RPM speed calc</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;Came across t=
his calculator with all the right input fields.&nbsp; But, I wonder how accu=
rate it really is given the following input. </p><p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&=
gt;TR3 with a 3.7 rear, OD at redline of 5,000rpm.&nbsp; Vredestein 165R/15 t=
ires, 25.4? diameter.&nbsp;&nbsp; Should be moving along at 124mph!</p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;<a href=3D"=
https://wahiduddin.net/calc/calc_speed_rpm.htm";>https://wahiduddin.net/calc/=
calc_speed_rpm.htm</a></p><p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&gt;&nbsp;</p><p class=3D=
"MsoPlainText">&gt;Anyone get a different answer? </p><p class=3D"MsoPlainTe=
xt">&gt;Bill</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here=
 (attached) is a spreadsheet that I wrote to calculate speed versus rpm give=
n different parameters. I wrote it to check my speedo after I installed an H=
VDA transmission. If the spreadsheet doesn=E2=80=99t make it through the lis=
t as an attachment, just e-mail me directly and I=E2=80=99ll send it to you.=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">With a standard T=
riumph gearbox + overdrive, and the parameters you gave, I calculate speed a=
t 5000 rpm in top gear (with overdrive) as being 124.5 mph. Note that, I thi=
nk that the tire diameter is 25.25=E2=80=9D, slightly less than you indicate=
d.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I hasten to ad=
d that calculating a speed and believing it=E2=80=99s achievable are two dif=
ferent things!</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Re=
gards,</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dave MacKa=
y</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">1960 TR3A s/n 68639L</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">n=
ear Toronto, Canada</p></div>
</div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">&lt;Triumph rp=
m to mph.xls&gt;</div></blockquote><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr=
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