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Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

To: Alex & Janet Thomson <aljlthomson@charter.net>, 'David Soknacki' <soknacki@soknacki.com>, "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?
From: Bob Danielson <75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 08:39:45 -0400
Delivered-to: mharc@autox.team.net
Delivered-to: triumphs@autox.team.net
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Alex=E2=80=A6. The issue with the full size spare is that it fits but only =
if some air is let out=E2=80=A6.. so a fully flat one will fit fine. The SS=
S fits just fine fully inflated.

Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

From: Alex & Janet Thomson
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:07 AM
To: 'Bob Danielson'; 'David Soknacki'; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

Looks like a good match. I must say that over the years I have been very fo=
rtunate and have seldom needed the spare tire that I had (or usually didn=
=E2=80=99t have). Most flats I have discovered were in the morning when the=
 car or truck was sitting in the driveway.

I think the only thing to remember is that once you have a flat tire, where=
 will you put it if only a space saver will fit in the spare tire compartme=
nt. If the car is fully loaded up - truck, rack, and behind-the-seats - as =
on a long distance trip, the passenger may object to keeping it in his or h=
er lap until you can get it repaired and back on the car. Of course, if the=
 full size tire is fully deflated, maybe this is not an issue as it might f=
it where intended.=20

Bob =E2=80=93 I always amazed at the amount of material that you have publi=
shed on your website! I learn something new every time I visit it.=C2=A0=20

Thanks

Alex Thomson

From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Da=
nielson
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2020 7:22 AM
To: David Soknacki; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

Hi David,
As the designer of the Boyd tank (http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AluminumTa=
nk.htm, I can say the design was done with the use of a Space Saver Spare (=
SSS) in mind. Actually I=E2=80=99ve had a SSS in my car since =E2=80=9908 (=
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm ) and didn=E2=80=99t giv=
e the full sized spare a second thought in the tank design. A SSS gives you=
 a nice flat trunk, extra storage space and saves over 17 pounds of dead we=
ight versus a full size spare.

Bob

Bob Danielson
TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets
http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm

From: David Soknacki
Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2020 11:04 PM
To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?

I had an aluminum fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I kne=
w that it was larger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I =
wasn=E2=80=99t surprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight fit. Only t=
oday I found out that the spare fit only because it was deflated! Fortunate=
ly I made the discovery in my driveway.
So I need a spare tire.
What is the thinking of list members for getting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=
=80=99 tire instead of one that is full size?
I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive far or quickly on a space-saver, and havin=
g flat space in the boot would be nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not s=
ure if my tailpipe would drag or whether a short drive on the space-saver w=
ould cause other problems.
The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full =
size tire, I plan to look at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30mm=
 more narrow might even allow me to inflate my spare!
Please let me know your thoughts.
Thanks so much.
David Soknacki
74 TR6 CF22072U




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ss=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Alex=E2=80=A6. The issue with the fu=
ll size spare is that it fits but only if some air is let out=E2=80=A6.. so=
 a fully flat one will fit fine. The SSS fits just fine fully inflated.</p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielso=
n<br>TR6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.dan=
ielsonfamily.org/PanelBootSales1.htm</p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o=
:p></p><div style=3D'mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:sol=
id #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'b=
order:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:aljlthomson@charter.=
net">Alex &amp; Janet Thomson</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Thursday, July 2, 2020 8:=
07 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:75tr6@tr6.danielsonfamily.org";>'Bob D=
anielson'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:soknacki@soknacki.com";>'David Soknacki'</a=
>; <a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a><b=
r><b>Subject: </b>RE: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?</p></div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Looks like a good match. I must say that over t=
he years I have been very fortunate and have seldom needed the spare tire t=
hat I had (or usually didn=E2=80=99t have). Most flats I have discovered we=
re in the morning when the car or truck was sitting in the driveway.<o:p></=
o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#=
1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I think the only thing to remember is that onc=
e you have a flat tire, where will you put it if only a space saver will fi=
t in the spare tire compartment. If the car is fully loaded up - truck, rac=
k, and behind-the-seats - as on a long distance trip, the passenger may obj=
ect to keeping it in his or her lap until you can get it repaired and back =
on the car. Of course, if the full size tire is fully deflated, maybe this =
is not an issue as it might fit where intended. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:=
#1F497D'>Bob =E2=80=93 I always amazed at the amount of material that you h=
ave published on your website! I learn something new every time I visit it.=
&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:=
12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><spa=
n style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p c=
lass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;=
</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color=
:#1F497D'>Alex Thomson<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0=
in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Ta=
homa",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-fami=
ly:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] =
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob Danielson<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 02, 2020 7=
:22 AM<br><b>To:</b> David Soknacki; triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:=
</b> Re: [TR] Space-saver or full-size spare?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Hi David=
,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>As the designer of the Boyd tank (<a h=
ref=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm";>http://tr6.danielso=
nfamily.org/AluminumTank.htm</a>, I can say the design was done with the us=
e of a Space Saver Spare (SSS) in mind. Actually I=E2=80=99ve had a SSS in =
my car since =E2=80=9908 (<a href=3D"http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSa=
verSpare.htm">http://tr6.danielsonfamily.org/SpaceSaverSpare.htm</a> ) and =
didn=E2=80=99t give the full sized spare a second thought in the tank desig=
n. A SSS gives you a nice flat trunk, extra storage space and saves over 17=
 pounds of dead weight versus a full size spare.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob Danielson<br>T=
R6 Interior Panels, Boot Covers and Fender Blankets<br>http://tr6.danielson=
family.org/PanelBootSales1.htm<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></p><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;paddin=
g:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:so=
knacki@soknacki.com">David Soknacki</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 1, =
2020 11:04 PM<br><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triu=
mphs@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[TR] Space-saver or full-size sp=
are?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>I had an alumin=
um fuel tank from Boyd Welding installed in my 74 TR6. I knew that it was l=
arger than the standard tank. So when I picked up my car, I wasn=E2=80=99t =
surprised to hear that my spare tire was a tight fit. Only today I found ou=
t that the spare fit only because it was deflated! Fortunately I made the d=
iscovery in my driveway.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>So I need a spare tire.<o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>What is the =
thinking of list members for getting a =E2=80=98space saver=E2=80=99 tire i=
nstead of one that is full size?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>I wouldn=E2=80=99t plan to drive =
far or quickly on a space-saver, and having flat space in the boot would be=
 nice. On the other hand I=E2=80=99m not sure if my tailpipe would drag or =
whether a short drive on the space-saver would cause other problems.<o:p></=
o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'=
>The (deflated) spare is a P205/65 R15. If I were to replace it with a full=
 size tire, I plan to look at something as narrow as a 175/65R15. Being 30m=
m more narrow might even allow me to inflate my spare!<o:p></o:p></p><p cla=
ss=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>Please let me=
 know your thoughts.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bot=
tom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'>Thanks so much.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNoS=
pacing>David Soknacki</p><p class=3DMsoNoSpacing>74 TR6 CF22072U</p><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:8.0pt;line-height:105%'><span lang=3DE=
N-CA><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div></body></html>=

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