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Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 181

To: triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [TR] Triumphs Digest, Vol 13, Issue 181
From: Carl Carlson <actionsl@att.net>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:55:02 -0700
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When your parter is pumping the petal, make sure itâ??s the brake and not the 
clutch.

Carl

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> Today's Topics:
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>   1. early TR4 (dave)
>   2. Re: early TR4 (Dave Hogye)
>   3. Fwd: Re:  early TR4 (Bob)
>   4. Re: early TR4 (Kinderlehrer)
>   5. Re: early TR4 (dave)
>   6. Re: Fwd: Re:  early TR4 (Frank Fisher)
>   7. Re: early TR4 (Jeff Scarbrough)
>   8. anti squeal shims (dave)
>   9. Re: anti squeal shims:  now grease vs. anti-seize (TERRY SMITH)
>  10. Re: early TR4 (Jerry Van Vlack)
>  11. Re: anti squeal shims (Brian Kemp)
>  12. Re: anti squeal shims (Paul Tegler)
>  13. Re: anti squeal shims (Jerry Van Vlack)
>  14. Re: anti squeal shims (Michael Porter)
>  15. Re: anti squeal shims (DAVID MASSEY)
>  16. Grease or anti seize (was squeal) (EDWARD WOODS)
>  17. Re: Grease or anti seize (was squeal) (John Macartney)
>  18. Re: Grease or anti seize (was squeal) (andrew uprichard)
>  19. Re: Grease or anti seize (was squeal) (Don Hiscock)
>  20. Power Bleeders (David Friedlander)
>  21. Re: Power Bleeders (bill beecher)
>  22. Re: Power Bleeders (dave)
>  23. Re: Power Bleeders (Bill Hall)
>  24. Re: Power Bleeders (Tom Householder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 16:50:10 -0500
> From: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] early TR4
> Message-ID: <001301d65571$c0fab6d0$42f02470$@ranteer.com>
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> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), and
> did the break in instructions.
> 
> 
> 
> They are squealing.  Greased them again; they still squeal.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:09:04 -0700
> From: Dave Hogye <dlhogye@comcast.net>
> To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] early TR4
> Message-ID: <04293620-245C-4B21-A886-49F242EB290D@comcast.net>
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> Did you also install new rotors? Or at least turn them? Shims could help. 
> Dave H. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:50 PM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), and 
>> did the break in instructions.
>> 
>> They are squealing.  Greased them again; they still squeal.
>> 
>> I don?t have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 18:14:49 -0400
> From: Bob <yellowtr@adelphia.net>
> To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] Fwd: Re:  early TR4
> Message-ID: <ffbc6fd0-3755-475f-e88c-690408023515@adelphia.net>
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> Sent this to Dave directly and forgot to CC the list
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> My 63 4 squeal from time to time. Most of the time is when they have not 
> been applied for awhile. The more pressure I apply as I come to a stop, 
> the less squeal. I have the shims installed. My 58 3 does not squeal. 
> Different pads maybe? My 72 6 does not squeal at all. But I installed 
> those drilled rotors. I am not sure if the drilled rotors are available 
> for the early 4s.
> 
> I figure as long as they stop me and dont leak I am good to go.
> 
> Bob
> 
>> On 7/8/20 5:50 PM, dave wrote:
>> 
>> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), 
>> and did the break in instructions.
>> 
>> They are squealing.? Greased them again; they still squeal.
>> 
>> I don?t have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 15:35:34 -0700
> From: "Kinderlehrer" <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
> To: "'Dave Hogye'" <dlhogye@comcast.net>,    "'dave'" <dave@ranteer.com>
> Cc: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] early TR4
> Message-ID: <014101d65578$18f42be0$4adc83a0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Sometimes camphering the pads by grinding the leading edge down at an angle 
> will help. Although I couldn?t get rid of the squeal until I replaced the 
> pads with those green pads from TRF. 
> 
> 
> 
> Bob K.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave 
> Hogye
> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2020 3:09 PM
> To: dave
> Cc: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] early TR4
> 
> 
> 
> Did you also install new rotors? Or at least turn them? Shims could help. 
> 
> Dave H. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> On Jul 8, 2020, at 2:50 PM, dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), and 
> did the break in instructions.
> 
> 
> 
> They are squealing.  Greased them again; they still squeal.
> 
> 
> 
> I don?t have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:22:46 -0500
> From: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] early TR4
> Message-ID: <001801d65587$1273e760$375bb620$@ranteer.com>
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> 
> Anyone have a set of shims they will sell?
> 
> 
> 
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:50 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] early TR4
> 
> 
> 
> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), and
> did the break in instructions.
> 
> 
> 
> They are squealing.  Greased them again; they still squeal.
> 
> 
> 
> I don't have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 00:23:13 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Frank Fisher <yellowtr3@yahoo.com>
> To: Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, Bob <yellowtr@adelphia.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Fwd: Re:  early TR4
> Message-ID: <1951818599.2381353.1594254193513@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> do you have the anti squeal clips installed?
> 
> Frank
> 
> 
>    On Wednesday, July 8, 2020, 03:15:13 PM PDT, Bob <yellowtr@adelphia.net> 
> wrote:  
> 
> 
> Sent this to Dave directly and forgot to CC the list
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> My 63 4 squeal from time to time. Most of the time is when they have not been 
> applied for awhile. The more pressure I apply as I come to a stop, the less 
> squeal. I have the shims installed. My 58 3 does not squeal. Different pads 
> maybe? My 72 6 does not squeal at all. But I installed those drilled rotors. 
> I am not sure if the drilled rotors are available for the early 4s.
> 
> 
> I figure as long as they stop me and dont leak I am good to go.
> 
> Bob
> 
> On 7/8/20 5:50 PM, dave wrote:
> 
> 
> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), and 
> did the break in instructions.
> 
> ?
> 
> They are squealing.? Greased them again; they still squeal.
> 
> ?
> 
> I don?t have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:25:35 -0400
> From: Jeff Scarbrough <fishplate@gmail.com>
> To: "Triumphs (triumphs@autox.team.net)" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] early TR4
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> 
> What were the break-in instructions?  I used to warm them up, then use
> the brakes to decelerate from about 60 to 30 four or five times in a
> row quickly.
> 
> Also, don't forget to clean/grease/replace the pins and other hardware.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2020 at 5:51 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), and 
>> did the break in instructions.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> They are squealing.  Greased them again; they still squeal.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I don?t have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
>> 
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:32:48 -0500
> From: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: [TR] anti squeal shims
> Message-ID: <001501d65588$7950cce0$6bf266a0$@ranteer.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I
> just knew the thickness
> 
> 
> 
> https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 20:56:07 -0400 (EDT)
> From: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims:  now grease vs. anti-seize
> Message-ID: <315110913.48579.1594256167674@connect.xfinity.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> Actually, this raises an interesting question.  When restoring something like 
> the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, everyone 
> who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this, especially when 
> (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without having the body off the 
> frame.
> 
> When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't get 
> removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of 
> grease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over a 
> long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.
> 
> Wonder about others' thoughts.
> 
> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
> New Hampshire
> 
>>    On 07/08/2020 8:32 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I 
>> just knew the thickness
>> 
>> 
>>    https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 10
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:04:10 -0400
> From: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
> To: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com>,    <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] early TR4
> Message-ID: <D47BF47082C243589FA7BBEC930E584A@VlackTK121647>
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> 
> Moss has them for 8 bucks.
> https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal?assoc=81995
> 
> From: dave 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 8:22 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net 
> Subject: Re: [TR] early TR4
> 
> Anyone have a set of shims they will sell?
> 
> 
> 
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 4:50 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] early TR4
> 
> 
> 
> We put new brake pads in our 62 TR4, greased them up (just one side!), and 
> did the break in instructions.
> 
> 
> 
> They are squealing.  Greased them again; they still squeal.
> 
> 
> 
> I don?t have shims; perhaps that will solve it?
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 11
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 19:13:11 -0700
> From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims
> Message-ID: <5ee61c3c-9275-9430-7c2c-25abc43149ac@earthlink.net>
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> I would have thought Moss would find a set that wasn't rusty for their 
> website photo.
> 
> 
> 
>> On 7/8/2020 5:32 PM, dave wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone know how thick they are?? Looks like a piece of cake to make if 
>> I just knew the thickness
>> 
>> https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 12
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 22:23:22 -0400
> From: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims
> Message-ID: <76b501a9-1c2d-941e-69f2-160fb7450b4d@verizon.net>
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> From past experience, these shims are a joke. REAL squal shims as many 
> are using/calling them, have a dense thin pad of material on them to 
> deaden vibration.
> exact same function as boommat/dynamat on your interior floors and panels.
> 
> as a test... only a test as the achieve won't hold up to the heat... 
> just place two layers of duct tape just a tad larger than the piston on 
> the piston side of the shim
> 
> ptegler
> 
>> On 7/8/2020 8:32 PM, dave wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone know how thick they are???? Looks like a piece of cake to make if 
>> I just knew the thickness
>> 
>> https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
>> 
>> 
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
>> 
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> -- 
> Paul Tegler
> ptegler@verizon.net  www.teglerizer.com
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> Message: 13
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 23:01:33 -0400
> From: "Jerry Van Vlack" <jerryvv@roadrunner.com>
> To: <triumphs@autox.team.net>,    "Brian Kemp" <bk13@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims
> Message-ID: <F827C14126F6442C86030D2FDF09A201@VlackTK121647>
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> 
> Yeah I noticed that too. I think my original shims are SS. Contrary to 
> another post in my experience they did work. I left them off on a set of 
> Green Stuff pads and they squealed. I immediately installed them and noise 
> was gone. Also my experience with Green Stuff was those pads made a lot of 
> dust. I?ve since changed to the Toyota conversion and Ted?s pads. NO DUST. 
> Your experience may differ etc and so forth.
> JVV 
> 
> From: Brian Kemp 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 8, 2020 10:13 PM
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net 
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims
> 
> I would have thought Moss would find a set that wasn't rusty for their 
> website photo.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/8/2020 5:32 PM, dave wrote:
> 
>  Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I 
> just knew the thickness
> 
> 
> 
>  https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 14
> Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2020 21:50:16 -0600
> From: Michael Porter <mdporter@dfn.com>
> To: Paul Tegler <ptegler@verizon.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims
> Message-ID: <af32e14f-43c0-4c8b-f259-b4deefb748ac@dfn.com>
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>> On 7/8/2020 8:23 PM, Paul Tegler wrote:
>> 
>> From past experience, these shims are a joke. REAL squal shims as many 
>> are using/calling them, have a dense thin pad of material on them to 
>> deaden vibration.
>> exact same function as boommat/dynamat on your interior floors and panels.
>> 
>> as a test... only a test as the achieve won't hold up to the heat... 
>> just place two layers of duct tape just a tad larger than the piston 
>> on the piston side of the shim
>> 
> Shims were always a problem, in that if the piston retracted fully, the 
> shim would rattle between the caliper and the pad. I've always been 
> partial to the blue goo that came with the old GM single-piston, 
> floating pad carrier kits.? Allowed to set up properly, it was a 
> physical connection between the piston and the pad and yet was still 
> soft and flexible enough to dampen vibration.
> 
> 
> Cheers.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> Michael Porter
> Roswell, NM
> 
> 
> Never let anyone drive you crazy when you know it's within walking 
> distance....
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 15
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:19:37 +0000 (UTC)
> From: DAVID MASSEY <dave1massey@cs.com>
> To: "bk13@earthlink.net" <bk13@earthlink.net>,
>    "triumphs@autox.team.net" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims
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> No, no!? That rust is a feature.? It, um... it, um... well, it IS for a 
> British car!
> 
> Dave 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net
> Sent: Wed, Jul 8, 2020 9:13 pm
> Subject: Re: [TR] anti squeal shims
> 
> I would have thought Moss would find a set that wasn't rusty for their 
> website photo.
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/8/2020 5:32 PM, dave wrote:
> 
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> how thick they are?? Looks like a piece of cake to make if I just knew the 
> thickness  ? https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal  ?  ?  
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> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:48:30 -0400 (EDT)
> From: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> To: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)
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> Message: 17
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:04:14 +0100
> From: John Macartney <John.Macartney@Ukpips.org.uk>
> To: EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> Cc: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>, triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)
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> I support Terry Smith and the use of anti seize. You can always wipe off the 
> excess or traces likely to attract dirt. Same goes for grease nipples 
> (zerks). Wipe them clean before greasing and wipe again afterwards, including 
> the ooze that comes out of the assembly. There?s a periodic advert I get on 
> FB of a firm selling grease guns. They click on a filthy nipple, apply the 
> lube, then remove leaving surplus grease everywhere. If I?d done that as an 
> apprentice at Jaguar in my very distant youth, I?d have been fired on the 
> spot.
> 
> Jonmac
> 
> At the Battle of Waterloo, 1815:
> Lord Uxbridge:  ?By God, Sir - I?ve lost my leg?
> Duke of Wellington: ?By God, Sir - so you have!?
> 
> 
>> On 9 Jul 2020, at 12:48, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> My first thought was that at my age applying any lubricant to ease future 
>> disassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in 
>> consideration of the next owner. 
>> 
>> Ed Woods
>>>> On 07/08/2020 8:56 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Actually, this raises an interesting question.  When restoring something 
>>> like the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, 
>>> everyone who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this, 
>>> especially when (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without 
>>> having the body off the frame. 
>>> 
>>> When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't 
>>> get removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of 
>>> grease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over 
>>> a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.
>>> 
>>> Wonder about others' thoughts.
>>> 
>>> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
>>> New Hampshire
>>>> On 07/08/2020 8:32 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I 
>>>> just knew the thickness
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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> Message: 18
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 08:09:57 -0400
> From: "andrew uprichard" <auprichard@uprichard.net>
> To: "'EDWARD WOODS'" <fogbro1@comcast.net>, "'TERRY SMITH'"
>    <terryrs@comcast.net>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)
> Message-ID: <00c601d655e9$ddef5980$99ce0c80$@uprichard.net>
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> 
> Like an uncle of my wife who says at his age he wonders if he should be 
> buying green bananas?????..
> 
> 
> 
> Andrew Uprichard
> 
> Jackson, Michigan
> 
> 
> 
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of EDWARD WOODS
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:49 AM
> To: TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>; triumphs@autox.team.net
> Subject: [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)
> 
> 
> 
> My first thought was that at my age applying any lubricant to ease future 
> disassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in consideration 
> of the next owner.  
> 
> 
> 
> Ed Woods 
> 
> On 07/08/2020 8:56 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net 
> <mailto:terryrs@comcast.net> > wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Actually, this raises an interesting question.  When restoring something like 
> the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame, everyone 
> who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this, especially when 
> (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without having the body off the 
> frame. 
> 
> 
> 
> When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't get 
> removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of 
> grease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over a 
> long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize. 
> 
> 
> 
> Wonder about others' thoughts. 
> 
> 
> 
> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A 
> 
> New Hampshire 
> 
> On 07/08/2020 8:32 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com <mailto:dave@ranteer.com> > 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I just 
> knew the thickness
> 
> 
> 
> https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Message: 19
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 07:35:15 -0500
> From: Don Hiscock <don.hiscock@gmail.com>
> To: triumphs@autox.team.net, EDWARD WOODS <fogbro1@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)
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> I'm finding more and more that I use a spritz of Fluid Film (a
> lanolin-based anticorrosion spray) as a "sort-of" anti seize on surfaces
> that might corrode.  I've used Fluid Film as a corrosion treatment on my
> Tacomas for years.  There's some on my TR -- and probably ought to be
> more.  Note to self.
> 
> After a discussion of Fluid Film with a colleague in San Diego who doesn't
> know what midwestern corrosion can be, he had a good idea.  He sprays the
> mounting surfaces on the wheels of his Porsche Cayman with Fluid Film
> before mounting.  They come off easy-peasy that way.  It has the advantage
> of while being somewhat greasy, it's *nowhere* near the mess of
> copper-based anti seize.  It's a lot more removable if desired.
> 
> I'd think about trying it on brake shims.
> 
> Under my truck, it generally lasts about a year.  I'll often apply in
> autumn before winter and sometimes again in the spring.  It would probably
> last for about the same time to prevent brake shim corrosion.
> 
> I buy the multi-pack of Fluid Film in aerosol cans.  It's available in bulk
> for ones own sprayer, but the rattlecans work for me.
> 
> Don
> Saint Louis
> 1962 TR3B TSF202L
> 
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 7:10 AM andrew uprichard <auprichard@uprichard.net>
> wrote:
> 
>> Like an uncle of my wife who says at his age he wonders if he should be
>> buying green bananas?????..
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Andrew Uprichard
>> 
>> Jackson, Michigan
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *EDWARD
>> WOODS
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 7:49 AM
>> *To:* TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net>; triumphs@autox.team.net
>> *Subject:* [TR] Grease or anti seize (was squeal)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My first thought was that at my age applying any lubricant to ease future
>> disassembly is a waste of time and money unless I'm doing so in
>> consideration of the next owner.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Ed Woods
>> 
>> On 07/08/2020 8:56 PM TERRY SMITH <terryrs@comcast.net> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Actually, this raises an interesting question.  When restoring something
>> like the long forward bolt that clamps the leaf spring to the frame,
>> everyone who's done such faces the herculean task of dislodging this,
>> especially when (OMG, can't fathom the thought) attempting it without
>> having the body off the frame.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> When re-assembling such,  including the similar caliper bolts that don't
>> get removed for extended periods, I've preferred Anti-Seize to any kind of
>> grease.  I've found the latter to be a magnet for dirt and debris that over
>> a long (okay, long-long-long) time, dry up faster than anti-seize.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Wonder about others' thoughts.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Terry Smith, '59 TR3A
>> 
>> New Hampshire
>> 
>> On 07/08/2020 8:32 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone know how thick they are?  Looks like a piece of cake to make if I
>> just knew the thickness
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://mossmotors.com/shim-set-anti-squeal
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> Message: 20
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 12:02:11 -0400
> From: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>,  New England Triumphs
>    <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Subject: [TR] Power Bleeders
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> Greetings all!
> 
> I'm looking at the Motive Power Products website and was wondering if
> anyone has experience with one of their power bleeders. They make quite
> a range but I don't want to spend big $$ on something I won't use very
> often... Any suggestions for good value here?
> 
> https://www.motiveproducts.com/collections/all
> 
> Thanks, as always!
> 
> Dave Friedlander
> '59 TR3
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> Message: 21
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:04:39 -0500
> From: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
> To: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>
> Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs
>    <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Power Bleeders
> Message-ID: <CB364BF5-F7BF-4584-BD53-8C3F7CD7912A@yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> 
> That?s an interesting concept, I use a MityVac but this looks easier.  
> Bill
> 
> #dontkillgrandma
> 
> On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Greetings all!
> 
> I'm looking at the Motive Power Products website and was wondering if 
> anyone has experience with one of their power bleeders. They make quite
> a range but I don't want to spend big $$ on something I won't use very 
> often... Any suggestions for good value here?
> 
> https://www.motiveproducts.com/collections/all 
> 
> Thanks, as always! 
> 
> Dave Friedlander
> '59 TR3
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> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 11:42:27 -0500
> From: "dave" <dave@ranteer.com>
> To: "'TR3 Triumphs'" <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Power Bleeders
> Message-ID: <006001d6560f$eeccb6a0$cc6623e0$@ranteer.com>
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> Why not use speedbleeders?  Much much cheaper
> 
> 
> 
> http://www.speedbleeder.com/
> 
> 
> 
> I have them on numerous cars and they are the way to go!
> 
> 
> 
> From: Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of David 
> Friedlander
> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2020 11:02 AM
> To: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs 
> <net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
> Subject: [TR] Power Bleeders
> 
> 
> 
> Greetings all!
> 
> 
> 
> I'm looking at the Motive Power Products website and was wondering if 
> 
> anyone has experience with one of their power bleeders. They make quite
> 
> a range but I don't want to spend big $$ on something I won't use very 
> 
> often... Any suggestions for good value here?
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.motiveproducts.com/collections/all 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks, as always! 
> 
> Dave Friedlander
> 
> '59 TR3
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> Message: 23
> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:03:37 -0400
> From: Bill Hall <billyb62@gmail.com>
> To: dave <dave@ranteer.com>
> Cc: TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [TR] Power Bleeders
> Message-ID:
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> 
> Since I do most of my maintenance alone, I'm a big speedbleeder fan too!
> 
> Bill
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2020 at 12:42 PM dave <dave@ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Why not use speedbleeders?  Much much cheaper
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.speedbleeder.com/
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I have them on numerous cars and they are the way to go!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> *From:* Triumphs <triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *David
>> Friedlander
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 9, 2020 11:02 AM
>> *To:* TR3 Triumphs <triumphs@autox.team.net>; New England Triumphs <
>> net@newenglandtriumphs.org>
>> *Subject:* [TR] Power Bleeders
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Greetings all!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I'm looking at the Motive Power Products website and was wondering if
>> 
>> anyone has experience with one of their power bleeders. They make quite
>> 
>> a range but I don't want to spend big $$ on something I won't use very
>> 
>> often... Any suggestions for good value here?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.motiveproducts.com/collections/all
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks, as always!
>> 
>> Dave Friedlander
>> 
>> '59 TR3
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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> Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2020 13:06:56 -0400
> From: Tom Householder <trhouse@columbus.rr.com>
> To: bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com>
> Cc: David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com>, TR3 Triumphs
>    <triumphs@autox.team.net>, New England Triumphs
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> I like this??.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdf--suwqw0 
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wdf--suwqw0>
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 12:04 PM, bill beecher <notakitcar@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> That?s an interesting concept, I use a MityVac but this looks easier.  
>> Bill
>> 
>> #dontkillgrandma
>> 
>> On Jul 9, 2020, at 11:02 AM, David Friedlander <forzion7@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> ?
>> Greetings all!
>> 
>> I'm looking at the Motive Power Products website and was wondering if 
>> anyone has experience with one of their power bleeders. They make quite
>> a range but I don't want to spend big $$ on something I won't use very 
>> often... Any suggestions for good value here?
>> 
>> https://www.motiveproducts.com/collections/all 
>> <https://www.motiveproducts.com/collections/all> 
>> 
>> Thanks, as always! 
>> 
>> Dave Friedlander
>> '59 TR3
>> ** triumphs@autox.team.net **
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