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Re: [TR] Valve train noise

To: "'Cliff Hansen'" <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>, "'Bob Nogueira'" <nogera@hotmail.com>, "'Triumph List'" <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise
From: "Kinderlehrer" <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 2020 14:56:57 -0800
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I don't, but I don't think that would solve the problem, unless you bent the
wire to conform to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try adjusting
them a little tighter than spec.

Bob

 

From: Cliff Hansen [mailto:cliff_hansen@outlook.com] 
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 1:59 PM
To: Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; 'Triumph List'
Subject: RE: [TR] Valve train noise

 

Bob K,

 

Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge with 0.015" or 0.010"? I've
looked, couldn't find any. It seems the wire gauges are designed for plug
gapping, and minimums are ~0.02"

 

Thanks,

 

Cliff

 

 

 

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Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise

 

Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods make
contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate.
Bob 

-----Original Message-----
From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Nogueira
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM
To: Triumph List
Subject: [TR] Valve train noise

Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has
been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced
in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine
has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is
20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. 
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)
and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re ground
cam and new lifters. 
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?

Bob Nogueira 
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style=3D'color:#1F497D'>I don&#8217;t, but I don&#8217;t think that =
would solve the problem, unless you bent the wire to conform to the =
contorted face on the rocker. You could try adjusting them a little =
tighter than spec.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bob<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
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</b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> =
Cliff Hansen [mailto:cliff_hansen@outlook.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, =
November 13, 2020 1:59 PM<br><b>To:</b> Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; =
'Triumph List'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Valve train =
noise<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob =
K,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge with =
0.015&#8221; or 0.010&#8221;? I&#8217;ve looked, couldn&#8217;t find =
any. It seems the wire gauges are designed for plug gapping, and =
minimums are ~0.02&#8221;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Cliff<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <a =
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Windows 10<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:kinderlehrer@comcast.net";>Kinderlehrer</a><br><b>Sent: =
</b>Friday, November 13, 2020 12:18 PM<br><b>To: </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:nogera@hotmail.com";>'Bob Nogueira'</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:Triumphs@autox.team.net";>'Triumph =
List'</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [TR] Valve train =
noise<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center =
where the push rods make<br>contact making a measurement with a flat =
feeler gauge inaccurate.<br>Bob <br><br>-----Original =
Message-----<br>From: Triumphs [<a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:triumphs-bounces@a=
utox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>Nogueira<br>Sent: Friday, =
November 13, 2020 10:54 AM<br>To: Triumph List<br>Subject: [TR] Valve =
train noise<br><br>Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of =
my TR4 engine. It has<br>been running well but has the valves do make =
more noise than I experienced<br>in the past . Checking the valve =
clearance it is spot on. Once the engine<br>has been running for 30 to =
45 minutes the noise is much louder.<br>Oil pressure is solid at 30 to =
70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is<br>20-50 Valvoline Racing =
Oil. <br>The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves =
(Stainless)<br>and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more =
tolerance. Re ground<br>cam and new lifters. <br>Any suggestions on =
tracking down the cause of the noise?<br><br>Bob Nogueira <br>** <a =
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