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Re: [TR] [EXTERNAL] Re: Valve train noise

To: Kinderlehrer <kinderlehrer@comcast.net>, 'Cliff Hansen' <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>, 'Bob Nogueira' <nogera@hotmail.com>, 'Triumph List' <Triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [TR] [EXTERNAL] Re: Valve train noise
From: "Reihing, Randall S." <Randall.Reihing@utoledo.edu>
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 2020 04:40:06 +0000
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Try a machine shop supply house or business. I recently purchased very smal=
l O.D. wire gauges to set the slide clearances in my Kawasaki carburetors.

Sincerely,
Randall Reihing
1959 TR3A
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To: 'Cliff Hansen' <cliff_hansen@outlook.com>; 'Bob Nogueira' <nogera@hotma=
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [TR] Valve train noise


I don=92t, but I don=92t think that would solve the problem, unless you ben=
t the wire to conform to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try ad=
justing them a little tighter than spec.

Bob



From: Cliff Hansen [mailto:cliff_hansen@outlook.com]
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 1:59 PM
To: Kinderlehrer; 'Bob Nogueira'; 'Triumph List'
Subject: RE: [TR] Valve train noise



Bob K,



Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge with 0.015=94 or 0.010=94? =
I=92ve looked, couldn=92t find any. It seems the wire gauges are designed f=
or plug gapping, and minimums are ~0.02=94



Thanks,



Cliff







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Subject: Re: [TR] Valve train noise



Could be those rockers. They can wear in the center where the push rods mak=
e
contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate.
Bob

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From: Triumphs [mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob
Nogueira
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM
To: Triumph List
Subject: [TR] Valve train noise

Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has
been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced
in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine
has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is
20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil.
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)
and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re groun=
d
cam and new lifters.
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?

Bob Nogueira

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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I don=92t, but I don=
=92t think that would solve the problem, unless you bent the wire to confor=
m to the contorted face on the rocker. You could try adjusting them a littl=
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 13, 2020 1:59 PM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Valve train noise</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Bob K,</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Do you know of a source for a wire feeler gauge wi=
th 0.015=94 or 0.010=94? I=92ve looked, couldn=92t find any. It seems the w=
ire gauges are designed for plug gapping, and minimums are ~0.02=94</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Thanks,</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">Could be those rockers. They can wear in the cente=
r where the push rods make<br>
contact making a measurement with a flat feeler gauge inaccurate.<br>
Bob <br>
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From: Triumphs [<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:t=
riumphs-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] On Behalf Of Bob<br>
Nogueira<br>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2020 10:54 AM<br>
To: Triumph List<br>
Subject: [TR] Valve train noise<br>
<br>
Folk, a couple of years ago I did a total rebuild of my TR4 engine. It has<=
br>
been running well but has the valves do make more noise than I experienced<=
br>
in the past . Checking the valve clearance it is spot on. Once the engine<b=
r>
has been running for 30 to 45 minutes the noise is much louder.<br>
Oil pressure is solid at 30 to 70 PSI. Engine temp stays at 170 (f). Oil is=
<br>
20-50 Valvoline Racing Oil. <br>
The rockers are from my spare engine. Head had all new valves (Stainless)<b=
r>
and New bronze guides which were reamed with a bit more tolerance. Re groun=
d<br>
cam and new lifters. <br>
Any suggestions on tracking down the cause of the noise?<br>
<br>
Bob Nogueira <br>
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