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Re: [TR] Summary of feedback re: donut tire for TR3A

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Subject: Re: [TR] Summary of feedback re: donut tire for TR3A
From: CFM-TR <cfmtr3a@verizon.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 13:42:47 -0500
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Thread-topic: [TR] Summary of feedback re: donut tire for TR3A
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As an option=2E=C2=A0 I have 165/80R15 under-inflated @20lbs and portable b=
attery air compressor that fits in rim offset=2E=C2=A0=C2=A0 haven't needed=
 it in 15 years but tested it a couple times to make sure it still holds ai=
r=2E=C2=A0 replaced 5 tires in 2017=2E

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On Nov 23, 2020, 10:47 AM, at 10:47 AM, Dave MacKay <dave@mdmack=
ay=2Eca> wrote:
>Hello:
>
>
>
>Last week, I asked about using a smaller spa=
re tire for my TR3A=2E I can
>barely force my 165/80R15 spare in, and was w=
ondering about using a
>modern
>=E2=80=9Cdonut=E2=80=9D(space saver) spare=
=2E I received feedback and suggestions from a
>number of list members=2E I=
=E2=80=99ll summarize the responses here, in case it
>might
>be useful for =
others=2E
>
>
>
>Although Triumph used a common bolt pattern --- 4 x 4=2E5"=
 (114=2E3mm) ---
>its
>rims had an uncommon offset (near zero)=2E Modern ca=
rs tend to have lots
>of
>positive offset=2E Because of the difference in o=
ffset, many replacement
>rims
>will foul the front brake caliper=2E That me=
ans that the replacement rim
>could only be used on the back; a flat on a f=
ront tire would require
>putting the spare on the rear and moving the rear =
wheel to the front=2E
>The
>alternative would be to keep a spacer with the =
spare so that it could
>be
>used on the front if needed=2E
>
>
>
>Bob Danie=
lson=E2=80=99s web site deals with the same issue for TR6s:
>http://tr6=2Ed=
anielsonfamily=2Eorg/SpaceSaverSpare=2Ehtm  Bob uses a
>T125x70D15
>donut t=
hat came from a 1990 - 1997 Honda Accord Wagon=2E Bob cautioned
>that
>he n=
eeded a =C2=BC=E2=80=9D spacer and different lug nuts=2E Apparently the sam=
e size
>wheels were used on:
>
>- Honda: Accord EX, LX, Wagon 90-97; Accord=
 98 - 02, Prelude 92 - 96;
>EV
>   Mini-van 97-on
>   - Infiniti M30 90 =E2=
=80=93 92
> - Nissan: Altima 93-01, Maxima 85-88, 200SX & Turbo 84-88; 240S=
X 89-96
>   - Acura: Legend 86-90; TL 2=2E5 95-on; Vigor 91-93
>   - Volvo:=
 40 series 98-03
>
>
>
>The recommendation that I found most appealing was =
simply to use a use
>a
>smaller tire on standard TR rims=2E The contributor=
 wasn=E2=80=99t sure, but
>thought
>he was using a 145/65R15 tire=2E
>
>
>
=
>I was cautioned that an odd-sized spare should not be used any longer
>tha=
n
>absolutely necessary=2E Running an odd-sized wheel on the rear will
>str=
ess
>the differential; running an odd-sized wheel on the front will affect
=
>steering and braking=2E
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>Dave MacKay
>
>1960 TR3A s/n 68=
639L
>
>near Toronto, Canada
>
>
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uto">As an option=2E=C2=A0 I have 165/80R15 under-inflated @20lbs and porta=
ble battery air compressor that fits in rim offset=2E=C2=A0=C2=A0 haven't n=
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ds air=2E=C2=A0 replaced 5 tires in 2017=2E<br><br></div>
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<div =
class=3D"gmail_quote" >On Nov 23, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Dave MacKay &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:dave@mdmackay=2Eca"; target=3D"_blank">dave@mdmackay=2Eca</a>&gt=
; wrote:<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0=2E=
8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div c=
lass=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hello:</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Last week, I asked about using a smalle=
r spare tire for my TR3A=2E I can barely force my 165/80R15 spare in, and w=
as wondering about using a modern =E2=80=9Cdonut=E2=80=9D(space saver) spar=
e=2E I received feedback and suggestions from a number of list members=2E I=
=E2=80=99ll summarize the responses here, in case it might be useful for ot=
hers=2E</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Although=
 Triumph used a common bolt pattern --- 4 x 4=2E5" (114=2E3mm) --- its rims=
 had an uncommon offset (near zero)=2E Modern cars tend to have lots of pos=
itive offset=2E Because of the difference in offset, many replacement rims =
will foul the front brake caliper=2E That means that the replacement rim co=
uld only be used on the back; a flat on a front tire would require putting =
the spare on the rear and moving the rear wheel to the front=2E The alterna=
tive would be to keep a spacer with the spare so that it could be used on t=
he front if needed=2E</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoPl=
ainText">Bob Danielson=E2=80=99s web site deals with the same issue for TR6=
s: <a href=3D"http://tr6=2Edanielsonfamily=2Eorg/SpaceSaverSpare=2Ehtm";>htt=
p://tr6=2Edanielsonfamily=2Eorg/SpaceSaverSpare=2Ehtm</a>&nbsp; Bob uses a =
T125x70D15 &nbsp;donut that came from a 1990 - 1997 Honda Accord Wagon=2E B=
ob cautioned that he needed a =C2=BC=E2=80=9D spacer and different lug nuts=
=2E Apparently the same size wheels were used on:</p><ul style=3D"margin-to=
p:0cm" type=3D"disc"><li class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"mso-list:l0 level1=
 lfo3">Honda: Accord EX, LX, Wagon 90-97; Accord 98 - 02, Prelude 92 - 96; =
EV Mini-van 97-on</li><li class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"mso-list:l0 level=
1 lfo3">Infiniti M30 90 =E2=80=93 92</li><li class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=
=3D"mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">Nissan: Altima 93-01, Maxima 85-88, 200SX &amp=
; Turbo 84-88; 240SX 89-96</li><li class=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"mso-list=
:l0 level1 lfo3">Acura: Legend 86-90; TL 2=2E5 95-on; Vigor 91-93</li><li c=
lass=3D"MsoPlainText" style=3D"mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3">Volvo: 40 series 98=
-03</li></ul><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">The re=
commendation that I found most appealing was simply to use a use a smaller =
tire on standard TR rims=2E The contributor wasn=E2=80=99t sure, but though=
t he was using a 145/65R15 tire=2E</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal">I was cautioned that an odd-sized spare should not be us=
ed any longer than absolutely necessary=2E Running an odd-sized wheel on th=
e rear will stress the differential; running an odd-sized wheel on the fron=
t will affect steering and braking=2E<br clear=3D"all"></p><p class=3D"MsoN=
ormal">Regards,</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
Dave MacKay</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">1960 TR3A s/n 68639L</p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal">near Toronto, Canada</p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>
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