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Re: Vintage Race Dilemas...

To: "Dave Lapham" <Dave_Lapham@oakqm3.sps.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Vintage Race Dilemas...
From: JISBELLJR@mail.utexas.edu (James A. Isbell)
Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996 14:47:55 -0500
>that.  I think 1974 is the cut off for production cars in CVAR rather than for
>formula cars. 

Two years ago it was 74 for the formula cars as well .

>CVAR does presently include a 'non-vintage' race group.  A number of SCCA cars
>show up and use it as a test and tune weekend.  I would think the Lola could
>race in that group.

Thats the problem.  That is where I was this spring when a Spec car hit me
and spun me off the track at turn #3.  He was an SCCA driver that was
practicing for REAL competition and was a bit more agressive than I thought
he should be.

I would like a place where I could race other Slick tired, Winged, cars from
the period 1974 through ??1980?? in a spirit that admits we are no longer
competitive.  If I race SCCA all the young, immortal, drivers drive like its
a demolition derby.  I dont want to wreck my car, I have nothing to prove.

>But, given that the Lola is not a vintage car why the
>need for a vintage competition license? 

So I can race with CVAR at TWS.  The non vintage group is all I can get, so
I will take it, I just dont like it.

>I haven't noticed very many monster cars in the non-vintage group at CVAR, it 
>seems to be mostly sports racers, Formula Fords, Spec Racers and a few IT cars
>on occasion.  Granted, running in a group in which the speed differentials are
>great is disconcerting at least, I wouldn't think the 540 would be at such a
>disadvantage.  Of course, I'm not riding in it so my perspective may be
>flawed. 

I was in with Vetts and Mustangs last spring and an Indy car that was
lapping me every 2 laps!  I just dont think 800HP should be on the same
track with 120HP

>Of course, one option would be to sell the 540 and acquire a vintage-eligible 
>car.  That may not be an even trade, although it might depend on what you 
>wanted to get as a replacement.  If you're fond of the Lola 540 however, you
>have to accept it's limitations.  Those include it's non-vintage status and 
>it's non-competitive status with SCCA. 

True enough, at this time.  

I am arguing that this should not be the case.  

Just because I dont think Dole has a snow balls chance in hell doesnt mean I
am going to vote for Clinton.  I never accept anything I think can be changed.  

I think if I speak up and maybe some others speak up, maybe there will be a
change.  I am sure that in 1973 no one considered the 1972 cars to be
"Vintage".  Its just a mater of definition.  When and where is the
definition decided.  "Vintage" is not a magic word that was defined in the
Bible as "1972 and earlier".  It is a word that will be redefined again and
again as people and cars get older.  In 1920 I am sure there were those that
would have said "Vintage racing" was horse racing "and for gods sake, dont
include any cars."

>It would be nice to have a class for these cars, but who's responsibility is 
>it to provide one?  

Everyone who believes that cars in general should be preserved for the future.
--
                                                            Jim

  "Better an outlaw than not free."
                         Nance O'Neil   


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