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Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Window stuck <zmagnette@autox.team.net> <zmagnette.autox.team.net>
From: charles durning <durningcharles@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:51:55 -0500
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Steve,

I'll have to take a look at one of my regulators when I get home.  If the
sheet metal parts are held together with rivets you may be able to drill
them out to get it apart.  If spot welds you may be able to drill out the
spot welds.

If there is room you may be able to put it back together steel pop rivets
or some screws and lock nuts.

Sounds like the pinion could be attached to the shaft with a roll pin.  If
that's the case another roll pin just could be the answer.

Charlie Durning

If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watching.



On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Steven Trovato <strovato@optonline.net>wrote:

> OK, here's the update.  The door panel came off without much trouble.  The
> window itself was fine, but the regulator was frozen solid.  I removed the
> regulator from the car.  The regulator looks very good, no rust, just some
> very old grease.  The mechanism consists of the crank, a shaft, a small
> pinion gear and a large sector gear.  With enough fiddling, I was able to
> get the mechanism moving, but it intermittently binds at various points.  I
> have a lot of play between the shaft and pinion gear.  I can move the
> window crank 40 degrees back and forth without the sector gear moving.  The
> other window regulators in the car have some play, but not this much.  This
> play seems to be coming from the attachment of the shaft to the pinion
> gear.  When the mechanism binds, the shaft is tight, but I can make the
> pinion move back and forth easily by pushing the arm.  This is odd, because
> when this was all  in the car, the crank moved easily 40 degrees and
> something past there was frozen.  So I guess I need to figure out why the
> shaft is binding, and how the pinion is attached to the shaft.  The biggest
> question is whether or not any of this can be accessed for service.  It
> doesn't look like it, at least not easily.  Comments welcome!
>
> -Steve T.
>
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<div>Steve,</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>I&#39;ll have to take a look at one of my regulators when I get home.=
=A0 If the sheet metal parts are held together with rivets you may be able =
to drill them out to get it apart.=A0 If spot welds you may be able to dril=
l out the spot welds.=A0 </div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>If there is room you may be able to put it back together steel pop riv=
ets or some screws and lock nuts.=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Sounds like the pinion could be attached to the shaft with a roll pin.=
=A0 If that&#39;s the case another roll pin just could be the answer.<br cl=
ear=3D"all"></div>
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div>=A0</div>
<div>Charlie Durning</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div><font size=3D"4">If you are using Google or Gmail, Big Brother is watc=
hing.</font></div>
<div>=A0</div></div></div><br><br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Steven Trovato =
<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:strovato@optonline.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">strovato@optonline.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT:#ccc 1px solid;MARGIN:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;PA=
DDING-LEFT:1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">OK, here&#39;s the update. =A0The doo=
r panel came off without much trouble. =A0The window itself was fine, but t=
he regulator was frozen solid. =A0I removed the regulator from the car. =A0=
The regulator looks very good, no rust, just some very old grease. =A0The m=
echanism consists of the crank, a shaft, a small pinion gear and a large se=
ctor gear. =A0With enough fiddling, I was able to get the mechanism moving,=
 but it intermittently binds at various points. =A0I have a lot of play bet=
ween the shaft and pinion gear. =A0I can move the window crank 40 degrees b=
ack and forth without the sector gear moving. =A0The other window regulator=
s in the car have some play, but not this much. =A0This play seems to be co=
ming from the attachment of the shaft to the pinion gear. =A0When the mecha=
nism binds, the shaft is tight, but I can make the pinion move back and for=
th easily by pushing the arm. =A0This is odd, because when this was all =A0=
in the car, the crank moved easily 40 degrees and something past there was =
frozen. =A0So I guess I need to figure out why the shaft is binding, and ho=
w the pinion is attached to the shaft. =A0The biggest question is whether o=
r not any of this can be accessed for service. =A0It doesn&#39;t look like =
it, at least not easily. =A0Comments welcome!<br>
<br>-Steve T.=20
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