Subject: [6pack] My damned clutch

From: COLIN THOM via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 08:30:39 -0600 (MDT)

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John=20

In answer to your question, the hole in the release lever that is closest t=
o the shaft will give you the most travel. That said, use the middle hole. =
This isn't your problem. Your first problem was that it wouldn't shift into=
 second. Gear. Presumably it was shifting in and out of all the other gears=
, in which case, you don't have a hydraulic problem.=20

You say it worsened to the point where it wouldn't go into any gear. What w=
as the clutch pedal feeling like at this point? Had its behavior changed si=
nce you left on your trip to CVS?=20

If the master cylinder is as old as the slave, and you lost 1/4" of fluid f=
rom the clutch reservoir over the course of a short drive, inspect for flui=
d leaks from the master. It may be bypassing. Look inside the car where the=
 cylinders come through the firewall. This is where you'll usually see the =
first signs of a leak. If the master cylinder appears dry, you're lucky. Is=
 the clutch the same? 1/4" of fluid went somewhere though there's a slim ch=
ance you just had some air left over from your bleeding that has sorted its=
elf out with some use, and sucked in the fluid.=20

Another lister mentioned the release lever/shaft. The fork that attaches to=
 that shaft, which holds the throwout bearing (or "release bearing"), is he=
ld onto the release shaft with a screw that is known to break. Savvy knuckl=
eheads drill the fork and shaft and put an extra pin in, when replacing the=
y have the tranny out. Safely jack up the car, disconnect the slave push ro=
d from the release lever and use whatever's handy (pipe is nice) to move th=
e release lever by hand. As you push it backwards, it will travel freely fo=
r about 1/4 inch. It shouldn't travel more than that. More on this in a min=
ute. You should feel the lever resist your pressure. The throwout bearing i=
s now against the clutch pressure plate. Keep pushing the lever backward an=
d you should feel constant pressure as it travels to the end of its range, =
This pressure is that of the clutch pressure plate diaphragm (spring). If y=
ou can move the lever backward without much resistance or if it feels jerky=
 and rough, it's likely that the screw has busted and the fork is moving on=
 the shaft. This can be weird because sometimes the fork shifts on the leve=
r more than at other times, when the screw breaks. If it is broken, it will=
 feel just plain wrong. You'll know.=20

If there is excessive travel of the lever when you first start pushing on i=
t, before you feel the throw out bearing contact the pressure plate, check =
the master and slave cylinder push rods. If the holes where they pin to the=
 clutch pedal and the release lever respectively are worn and oval-shaped, =
it is possible that the hydraulics and release shaft/fork pin are fine but =
the release fork just isn't traveling far enough to completely release the =
pressure plate when you tromp on the clutch pedal. This has happened to me.=
 If you used the new push rod that came with the slave cylinder, you should=
 be fine but check the master cylinder push rod.=20

The other possibility, and this has happened to me, twice (!!!), is that th=
e pressure plate itself has failed. This usually doesn't happen suddenly, t=
hough, so we'll leave that genie in the bottle until you check out the othe=
r stuff.=20

Good Luck=20
Colin 74-1/2=20

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2. Re: My damned clutch (Brian J. Alwin)=20
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4. Re: My damned clutch ([email-masked])=20
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Message: 1=20
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 19:44:17 +0000 (UTC)=20
From: John Summers <[email-masked]>=20
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
Subject: [6pack] My damned clutch=20
Message-ID:=20
<[email-masked]>=20

Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning these demon Triumphs) :))=20
I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), bled it, bla, blah,bla . Due to my o=
verallhealth, the room between the car and my garage wall, and mental healt=
h?it took me quite a while ( months ) to finishby any competent mechanic, t=
he two hour job.Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok, so much for the back roun=
d info. ?I took it for a short drivejust ?to test my work, it worked well. =
It sat two weeks before I bravely set out on a 2 mile roundtrip to CVS. ?Tu=
rning off the main road into the parking lot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it would=
n't go into 2nd gear.It wasn't pretty driving home but got it into the yard=
. ?Wouldn't go into any gear.The only thing I could think of besides toping=
 off the clutch fluid, down 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which h=
as three holes in it. ?I don't remember which hole?I used. ?Assuming I had =
it in the center hole, which hole would move the clutch most (and hopefully=
)make the damn thing work. ?I'm tired of being afraid to drive it and have =
absolutely NO MORE MONE=20
Y to spend on repairs.?Probably spent $3,000 in the last year and a half. ?=
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:10:15 -0700=20
From: "Brian J. Alwin" <[email-masked]>=20
To: John Summers <[email-masked]>, John Summers via 6pack=20
<[email-masked]>, "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] My damned clutch=20

This might be a red herring but on several occasions I have had the clutch =
disk stick to the flywheel. Usually after extended storage. This requires a=
 bit of abuse to get it unstuck. Brian Alwin 72 TR6=20

On August 11, 2015 12:44:17 PM PDT, John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]=
m.net> wrote:=20
>Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning these demon Triumphs) :))=20
>I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), bled it, bla, blah,bla . Due to=20
>my overallhealth, the room between the car and my garage wall, and=20
>mental health?it took me quite a while ( months ) to finishby any=20
>competent mechanic, the two hour job.Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok,=20
>so much for the back round info. ?I took it for a short drivejust ?to=20
>test my work, it worked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely set out=20
>on a 2 mile roundtrip to CVS. ?Turning off the main road into the=20
>parking lot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.It=20
>wasn't pretty driving home but got it into the yard. ?Wouldn't go into=20
>any gear.The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutch=20
>fluid, down 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which has three=20
>holes in it. ?I don't remember which hole?I used. ?Assuming I had it in=20
>the center hole, which hole would move the clutch most (and=20
>hopefully)make the damn thing work. ?I'm tired of being afraid to drive=20
>it and have absolutely NO MORE MONEY to spend on repairs.?Probably=20
>spent $3,000 in the last year and a half. ??=20
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Message: 3=20
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 0:37:39 +0000=20
From: <[email-masked]>=20
To: "Brian J. Alwin" <[email-masked]>, John Summers=20
<[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "Brian J. Alwin via 6pack" <[email-masked]>=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] My damned clutch=20

You either have a bad clutch slave or master cylinder or the clutch fork pi=
n has broken. If pumping the clutch repeatedly makes it better then hydraul=
ic. You can look under the car (on a lift or well placed jack stands) and o=
bseven the range of motion of the slave rod and lever it is attached to. It=
 should have a little play, but then keep moving through the whole clutch p=
edal depression. If it doesn't once again hydraulics. If it does appear to =
move all the way through the pedal depression it could be a broken pin.=20

Greg Lemon=20
---- "Brian J. Alwin via 6pack"=20
<[email-masked]> wrote:=20
> This might be a red herring but on several occasions I have had the clutc=
h disk stick to the flywheel. Usually after extended storage. This requires=
 a bit of abuse to get it unstuck. Brian Alwin 72 TR6=20
>=20
> On August 11, 2015 12:44:17 PM PDT, John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]=
eam.net> wrote:=20
> >Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning these demon Triumphs) :))=20
> >I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), bled it, bla, blah,bla . Due to=
=20
> >my overallhealth, the room between the car and my garage wall, and=20
> >mental health?it took me quite a while ( months ) to finishby any=20
> >competent mechanic, the two hour job.Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok,=
=20
> >so much for the back round info. ?I took it for a short drivejust ?to=20
> >test my work, it worked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely set out=
=20
> >on a 2 mile roundtrip to CVS. ?Turning off the main road into the=20
> >parking lot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.It=20
> >wasn't pretty driving home but got it into the yard. ?Wouldn't go into=
=20
> >any gear.The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutch=
=20
> >fluid, down 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which has three=20
> >holes in it. ?I don't remember which hole?I used. ?Assuming I had it in=
=20
> >the center hole, which hole would move the clutch most (and=20
> >hopefully)make the damn thing work. ?I'm tired of being afraid to drive=
=20
> >it and have absolutely NO MORE MONEY to spend on repairs.?Probably=20
> >spent $3,000 in the last year and a half. ??=20
> >=20
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Message: 4=20
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 0:43:18 +0000=20
From: <[email-masked]>=20
To: "Brian J. Alwin" <[email-masked]>, John Summers=20
<[email-masked]>=20
Cc: "Brian J. Alwin via 6pack" <[email-masked]>=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] My damned clutch=20

Go to The VTR website "resources" "maintenance hanbook" "clutch" for more d=
etailed information. Greg Lemon=20

---- "Brian J. Alwin via 6pack" <[email-masked]> wrote:=20
> This might be a red herring but on several occasions I have had the clutc=
h disk stick to the flywheel. Usually after extended storage. This requires=
 a bit of abuse to get it unstuck. Brian Alwin 72 TR6=20
>=20
> On August 11, 2015 12:44:17 PM PDT, John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]=
eam.net> wrote:=20
> >Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning these demon Triumphs) :))=20
> >I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), bled it, bla, blah,bla . Due to=
=20
> >my overallhealth, the room between the car and my garage wall, and=20
> >mental health?it took me quite a while ( months ) to finishby any=20
> >competent mechanic, the two hour job.Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok,=
=20
> >so much for the back round info. ?I took it for a short drivejust ?to=20
> >test my work, it worked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely set out=
=20
> >on a 2 mile roundtrip to CVS. ?Turning off the main road into the=20
> >parking lot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.It=20
> >wasn't pretty driving home but got it into the yard. ?Wouldn't go into=
=20
> >any gear.The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutch=
=20
> >fluid, down 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which has three=20
> >holes in it. ?I don't remember which hole?I used. ?Assuming I had it in=
=20
> >the center hole, which hole would move the clutch most (and=20
> >hopefully)make the damn thing work. ?I'm tired of being afraid to drive=
=20
> >it and have absolutely NO MORE MONEY to spend on repairs.?Probably=20
> >spent $3,000 in the last year and a half. ??=20
> >=20
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=20
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Message: 5=20
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 23:43:02 -0400=20
From: [email-masked]=20
To: [email-masked], [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] My damned clutch=20

Have you made sure that the breather hole in the cap of the clutch fluid=20
reservoir is open? It sometimes plugs with dried fluid + crud. My '72 is=20
long gone, but I love sharing ongoing misery.=20

Tim=20

In a message dated 8/11/2015 4:00:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,=20
[email-masked] writes:=20

Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning these demon Triumphs) :))=20

I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), bled it, bla, blah,bla . Due to my=
=20
overall=20
health, the room between the car and my garage wall, and mental health=20
it took me quite a while ( months ) to finish=20
by any competent mechanic, the two hour job.=20
Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok, so much for the back round info. I took=
=20
it for a short drive=20
just to test my work, it worked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely=20
set out on a 2 mile round=20
trip to CVS. Turning off the main road into the parking lot and !!!=20
SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.=20
It wasn't pretty driving home but got it into the yard. Wouldn't go into=20
any gear.=20
The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutch fluid, down=
=20
1/4", Would possibly=20
be the clutch lever which has three holes in it. I don't remember which=20
hole=20
I used. Assuming I had it in the center hole, which hole would move the=20
clutch most (and hopefully)=20
make the damn thing work. I'm tired of being afraid to drive it and have=20
absolutely NO MORE MONEY to spend on repairs.=20
Probably spent $3,000 in the last year and a half.=20

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div style=3D'font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; colo=
r: #000000'>John<div><br></div><div>In answer to your question, the hole in=
 the release lever that is closest to the shaft will give you the most trav=
el. That said, use the middle hole. This isn't your problem. Your first pro=
blem was that it wouldn't shift into second. Gear. Presumably it was shifti=
ng in and out of all the other gears, in which case, you don't have a hydra=
ulic problem.</div><div><br></div><div>You say it worsened to the point whe=
re it wouldn't go into any gear. What was the clutch pedal feeling like at =
this point? Had its behavior changed since you left on your trip to CVS?&nb=
sp;</div><div><br></div><div>If the master cylinder is as old as the slave,=
 and you lost 1/4" of fluid from the clutch reservoir over the course of a =
short drive, inspect for fluid leaks from the master. It may be bypassing. =
Look inside the car where the cylinders come through the firewall. This is =
where you'll usually see the first signs of a leak. If the master cylinder =
appears dry, you're lucky. Is the clutch the same? 1/4" of fluid went somew=
here though there's a slim chance you just had some air left over from your=
 bleeding that has sorted itself out with some use, and sucked in the fluid=
.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Another lister mentioned the release lever=
/shaft. The fork that attaches to that shaft, which holds the throwout bear=
ing (or "release bearing"), is held onto the release shaft with a screw tha=
t is known to break. Savvy knuckleheads drill the fork and shaft and put an=
 extra pin in, when replacing they have the tranny out. Safely jack up the =
car, disconnect the slave push rod from the release lever and use whatever'=
s handy (pipe is nice) to move the release lever by hand. As you push it ba=
ckwards, it will travel freely for about 1/4 inch. It shouldn't travel more=
 than that. More on this in a minute. You should feel the lever resist your=
 pressure. The throwout bearing is now against the clutch pressure plate. K=
eep pushing the lever backward and you should feel constant pressure as it =
travels to the end of its range, This pressure is that of the clutch pressu=
re plate diaphragm (spring). If you can move the lever backward without muc=
h resistance or if it feels jerky and rough, it's likely that the screw has=
 busted and the fork is moving on the shaft. This can be weird because some=
times the fork shifts on the lever more than at other times, when the screw=
 breaks. If it is broken, it will feel just plain wrong. You'll know.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>If there is excessive travel of the lever when you firs=
t start pushing on it, before you feel the throw out bearing contact the pr=
essure plate, check the master and slave cylinder push rods. If the holes w=
here they pin to the clutch pedal and the release lever respectively are wo=
rn and oval-shaped, it is possible that the hydraulics and release shaft/fo=
rk pin are fine but the release fork just isn't traveling far enough to com=
pletely release the pressure plate when you tromp on the clutch pedal. This=
 has happened to me. If you used the new push rod that came with the slave =
cylinder, you should be fine but check the master cylinder push rod.</div><=
div><br></div><div>The other possibility, and this has happened to me, twic=
e (!!!), is that the pressure plate itself has failed. This usually doesn't=
 happen suddenly, though, so we'll leave that genie in the bottle until you=
 check out the other stuff.</div><div><br></div><div>Good Luck</div><div>Co=
lin 74-1/2</div><div><br></div><div><br><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div style=3D"=
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<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>Dear fellow knuckle =
heads ( for owning these demon Triumphs) :))<br>I changed the slave cylinde=
r (clutch), bled it, bla, blah,bla . Due to my overallhealth, the room betw=
een the car and my garage wall, and mental health?it took me quite a while =
( months ) to finishby any competent mechanic, the two hour job.Purchased m=
y '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok, so much for the back round info. ?I took it for a sh=
ort drivejust ?to test my work, it worked well. It sat two weeks before I b=
ravely set out on a 2 mile roundtrip to CVS. ?Turning off the main road int=
o the parking lot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.It was=
n't pretty driving home but got it into the yard. ?Wouldn't go into any gea=
r.The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutch fluid, down=
 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which has three holes in it. ?I do=
n't remember which hole?I used. ?Assuming I had it in the center hole, whic=
h hole would move the clutch most (and hopefully)make the damn thing work. =
?I'm tired of being afraid to drive it and have absolutely NO MORE MONE<br>=
&nbsp;Y to spend on repairs.?Probably spent $3,000 in the last year and a h=
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essage-ID: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>=
ing but on several occasions I have had the clutch disk stick to the flywhe=
el. Usually after extended storage. This requires a bit of abuse to get it =
unstuck. Brian Alwin 72 TR6<br><br>On August 11, 2015 12:44:17 PM PDT, John=
 Summers via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br>&gt;Dear fellow k=
nuckle heads ( for owning these demon Triumphs) :))<br>&gt;I changed the sl=
ave cylinder (clutch), bled it, bla, blah,bla . Due to<br>&gt;my overallhea=
lth, the room between the car and my garage wall, and<br>&gt;mental health?=
it took me quite a while ( months ) to finishby any<br>&gt;competent mechan=
ic, the two hour job.Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok,<br>&gt;so much for t=
he back round info. ?I took it for a short drivejust ?to<br>&gt;test my wor=
k, it worked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely set out<br>&gt;on a 2 =
mile roundtrip to CVS. ?Turning off the main road into the<br>&gt;parking l=
ot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.It<br>&gt;wasn't pret=
ty driving home but got it into the yard. ?Wouldn't go into<br>&gt;any gear=
.The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutch<br>&gt;fluid=
, down 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which has three<br>&gt;holes=
 in it. ?I don't remember which hole?I used. ?Assuming I had it in<br>&gt;t=
he center hole, which hole would move the clutch most (and<br>&gt;hopefully=
)make the damn thing work. ?I'm tired of being afraid to drive<br>&gt;it an=
d have absolutely NO MORE MONEY to spend on repairs.?Probably<br>&gt;spent =
$3,000 in the last year and a half. ??<br>&gt;<br>&gt;---------------------=
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r>Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 0:37:39 +0000<br>From: &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<b=
r>To: "Brian J. Alwin" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;, &nbsp;John Summers<br=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;[email-masked]=
&gt;<br>Cc: "Brian J. Alwin via 6pack" &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Subj=
ect: Re: [6pack] My damned clutch<br>Message-ID: &lt;20150812003739.6DZOA.2=
65101.root@cdptpa-web09&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8<br=
><br>You either have a bad clutch slave or master cylinder or the clutch fo=
rk pin has broken. &nbsp;If pumping the clutch repeatedly makes it better t=
hen hydraulic. &nbsp;You can look under the car (on a lift or well placed j=
ack stands) and obseven the range of motion of the slave rod and lever it i=
s attached to. &nbsp;It should have a little play, but then keep moving thr=
ough the whole clutch pedal depression. &nbsp;If it doesn't once again hydr=
aulics. &nbsp;If it does appear to move all the way through the pedal depre=
ssion it could be a broken pin.<br><br><br><br>Greg Lemon<br>---- "Brian J.=
 Alwin via 6pack"<br>&nbsp;&lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br>&gt; Thi=
s might be a red herring but on several occasions I have had the clutch dis=
k stick to the flywheel. Usually after extended storage. This requires a bi=
t of abuse to get it unstuck. Brian Alwin 72 TR6<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On August=
 11, 2015 12:44:17 PM PDT, John Summers via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning these demon T=
riumphs) :))<br>&gt; &gt;I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), bled it, bl=
a, blah,bla . Due to<br>&gt; &gt;my overallhealth, the room between the car=
 and my garage wall, and<br>&gt; &gt;mental health?it took me quite a while=
 ( months ) to finishby any<br>&gt; &gt;competent mechanic, the two hour jo=
b.Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok,<br>&gt; &gt;so much for the back round =
info. ?I took it for a short drivejust ?to<br>&gt; &gt;test my work, it wor=
ked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely set out<br>&gt; &gt;on a 2 mile=
 roundtrip to CVS. ?Turning off the main road into the<br>&gt; &gt;parking =
lot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.It<br>&gt; &gt;wasn'=
t pretty driving home but got it into the yard. ?Wouldn't go into<br>&gt; &=
gt;any gear.The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutch<b=
r>&gt; &gt;fluid, down 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which has th=
ree<br>&gt; &gt;holes in it. ?I don't remember which hole?I used. ?Assuming=
 I had it in<br>&gt; &gt;the center hole, which hole would move the clutch =
most (and<br>&gt; &gt;hopefully)make the damn thing work. ?I'm tired of bei=
ng afraid to drive<br>&gt; &gt;it and have absolutely NO MORE MONEY to spen=
d on repairs.?Probably<br>&gt; &gt;spent $3,000 in the last year and a half=
. ??<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;---------------------------------------------=
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, &nbsp;John Summers<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Cc: "Brian J. Alwin via 6pack" &lt;6pack@aut=
ox.team.net&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] My damned clutch<br>Message-ID: &lt=
;20150812004318.FIFRG.265198.root@cdptpa-web09&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/pl=
ain; charset=3Dutf-8<br><br>Go to The VTR website "resources" "maintenance =
hanbook" "clutch" for more detailed information. &nbsp;Greg Lemon<br><br>--=
-- "Brian J. Alwin via 6pack" &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote: <br>&gt; =
This might be a red herring but on several occasions I have had the clutch =
disk stick to the flywheel. Usually after extended storage. This requires a=
 bit of abuse to get it unstuck. Brian Alwin 72 TR6<br>&gt; <br>&gt; On Aug=
ust 11, 2015 12:44:17 PM PDT, John Summers via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]=
et&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning these demo=
n Triumphs) :))<br>&gt; &gt;I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), bled it,=
 bla, blah,bla . Due to<br>&gt; &gt;my overallhealth, the room between the =
car and my garage wall, and<br>&gt; &gt;mental health?it took me quite a wh=
ile ( months ) to finishby any<br>&gt; &gt;competent mechanic, the two hour=
 job.Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. Ok,<br>&gt; &gt;so much for the back rou=
nd info. ?I took it for a short drivejust ?to<br>&gt; &gt;test my work, it =
worked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely set out<br>&gt; &gt;on a 2 m=
ile roundtrip to CVS. ?Turning off the main road into the<br>&gt; &gt;parki=
ng lot and !!! SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into 2nd gear.It<br>&gt; &gt;wa=
sn't pretty driving home but got it into the yard. ?Wouldn't go into<br>&gt=
; &gt;any gear.The only thing I could think of besides toping off the clutc=
h<br>&gt; &gt;fluid, down 1/4", Would possiblybe the clutch lever which has=
 three<br>&gt; &gt;holes in it. ?I don't remember which hole?I used. ?Assum=
ing I had it in<br>&gt; &gt;the center hole, which hole would move the clut=
ch most (and<br>&gt; &gt;hopefully)make the damn thing work. ?I'm tired of =
being afraid to drive<br>&gt; &gt;it and have absolutely NO MORE MONEY to s=
pend on repairs.?Probably<br>&gt; &gt;spent $3,000 in the last year and a h=
alf. ??<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;------------------------------------------=
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[email-masked]<br>To: [email-masked], [email-masked]<br>S=
ubject: Re: [6pack] My damned clutch<br>Message-ID: &lt;d259.113c225a.42fc1=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"us-ascii"<br><br>Ha=
ve you made sure that the breather hole in the cap of the clutch fluid &nbs=
p;<br>reservoir is open? &nbsp;It sometimes plugs with dried fluid + crud. =
&nbsp;My &nbsp;'72 is <br>long gone, but I love sharing ongoing misery.<br>=
&nbsp;<br>Tim<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>In a message dated 8/11/2015 4:00:58 P=
.M. Eastern Daylight Time, &nbsp;<br>[email-masked] writes:<br><br>&n=
bsp;<br>Dear fellow knuckle heads ( for owning &nbsp;these demon Triumphs) =
:))<br><br><br>I changed the slave cylinder (clutch), &nbsp;bled it, bla, b=
lah,bla . Due to my <br>overall<br>health, the room between the &nbsp;car a=
nd my garage wall, and mental health<br>&nbsp;it took me quite a while &nbs=
p;( months ) to finish<br>by any competent mechanic, the &nbsp;two hour job=
.<br>Purchased my '74 TR6 in 1998. &nbsp;Ok, so much for the back round inf=
o. &nbsp;I took <br>it for a short drive<br>just &nbsp;to test my work, it =
&nbsp;worked well. It sat two weeks before I bravely <br>set out on a 2 mil=
e round<br>trip to CVS. &nbsp;Turning off &nbsp;the main road into the park=
ing lot and !!! <br>SURPRISE !!!! it wouldn't go into &nbsp;2nd gear.<br>It=
 wasn't pretty driving home &nbsp;but got it into the yard. &nbsp;Wouldn't =
go into <br>any gear.<br>The only thing I could think &nbsp;of besides topi=
ng off the clutch fluid, down <br>1/4", Would possibly<br>be the clutch lev=
er which has &nbsp;three holes in it. &nbsp;I don't remember which <br>hole=
 <br>I used. &nbsp;Assuming I had &nbsp;it in the center hole, which hole w=
ould move the <br>clutch most (and &nbsp;hopefully)<br>make the damn thing =
work. &nbsp;I'm tired of being afraid to drive it and have <br>absolutely N=
O MORE MONEY &nbsp;to spend on repairs. <br>Probably spent $3,000 in the &n=
bsp;last year and a half. &nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br><br><br><br>_________________=
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