Subject: Re: [6pack] my darned clutch slave

From: James_ via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 22:48:54 +0000

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I found this video. http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU
Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there is this =
guy too: http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE

BTW:
I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I cleaned out=
 old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)
Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not.
(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)

=97Sent from my Atari 2600=97

On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack <[email-masked]=

I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked best for =
him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top the syst=
em off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod several st=
rokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No bleeding needed, no =
help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch master cylinder

Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid
[email-masked]>> wrote:
Right before you bolt the slave to the tranny bleed it by holding it in you=
r hand and tilt the bleed screw so its the highest point of the whole assem=
bly Takes a helper and some dexterity but if you leave a bit of air in the =
slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) it compresses inst=
ead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. A little temperature=
 change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work because things got heated u=
p a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about incompletely bled slave cylinders.

Bud Rolofson

Extreme Parts Racing (more than just a haircut)

71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle
77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)

On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack <[email-masked]<mai=
lto:[email-masked]>> wrote:

Hi John

First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the system after y=
ou'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch hydraulic system is v=
ery short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you pull back the carpet i=
n the foot well and check the master cylinder inside the firewall. That's w=
here you're most likely to see the leak.

If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled it just =
for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there is no fluid =
leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not the problem and=
 the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting about this a few mo=
nths ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: Clutch works OK when it=
's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The problem, barring a hydraulic issu=
e, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been known to fail when they get h=
ot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I speak...trust me.

Use the middle hole on the release lever.

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   2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk)
   3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers)
   4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane)
   5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale)

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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700
Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize
        Compound:        Amazon.com<http://amazon.com/>: Industrial & Scien=
tific
[email-masked]>>

This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all the hub sp=
lines in the known universe.

I still have 90% left ?

> http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001=
HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspline=
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"Life is too short to drive boring cars"

Bill Pugh
1957 TR3 "Casper"?
TS16765L
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Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400
Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2
ne.net>>

I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it
is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use
anti-seize.  ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only
grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very
poor grease substitute on moving parts.)

ed

However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know?

x.team.net> wrote:
> Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400
> Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease
>
> Listers   Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of w=
ire wheels would be appreciated
> Thanks
> Ron

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
Message-ID:
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I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind=
er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few=
 minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag=
onot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunc=
hing of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bl=
ed the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally af=
ter seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I wen=
t for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had=
 to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I f=
elt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U =
turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on th=
e rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set =
at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer=
 theslave or father awa
 y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacks=
onville Florida'74 TR 6
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000
Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend
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mprd18.prod.outlook.com>>

Hey guys,
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend?  The=
 Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Sheldon V=
ineyards in Dobson, NC. Info atwww.triumphclub.org<http://www.triumphclub.o=
rg/><http://www.triumphclub.org<http://www.triumphclub.org/>>. It's a 3 day=
 event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around some nice mountain a=
nd foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun auto-cross. The =
main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be clear, this is Apri=
l 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA line on I=
-77.

Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice=
. I think I'll drive the Spit this year.

Sloane [&#X1f60a]

69-Six

72-Spit

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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
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John
The normal hole to use is the center hole.?

If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? C=
heck to see where the fluid went.

One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive=
 movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec=
ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you=
 feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may have a broken pin in the=
 clutch fork.

Dale

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 Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM
 Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave

I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind=
er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few=
 minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag=
onot
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<div>Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there is =
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<div>BTW:</div>
<div>I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I cleane=
d out old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)</div>
<div>Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not.&nbsp;</div>
<div>(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)</div>
<div><br>
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=97Sent from my Atari 2600=97</div>
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 for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top the=
 system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod sever=
al strokes before putting the pin
 in at the clutch fork. No bleeding needed, no help needed. All air travele=
d up the the clutch master cylinder</div>
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</div>
<div><font style=3D"color:#333333"><i>Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE =
Droid</i></font></div>
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<div style=3D"word-wrap:break-word">Right before you bolt the slave to the =
tranny bleed it by holding it in your hand and tilt the bleed screw so its =
the highest point of the whole assembly Takes a helper and some dexterity b=
ut if you leave a bit of air in the
 slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) it compresses ins=
tead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. A little temperatur=
e change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work because things got heated =
up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy
 about incompletely bled slave cylinders.<br>
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helvetica';font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-=
spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;wo=
rd-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
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<div>71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)</div>
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rd-spacing:0px;border-spacing:0px">
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o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</div>
<br>
<blockquote>
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<div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:10pt=
">Hi John
<div><br>
</div>
<div>First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the system af=
ter you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch hydraulic system=
 is very short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you pull back the car=
pet in the foot well and check the
 master cylinder inside the firewall. That's where you're most likely to se=
e the leak.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled it =
just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there is no f=
luid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not the proble=
m and the clutch most probably is.
 I wrote a lengthy posting about this a few months ago in response to someo=
ne's similar symptoms: Clutch works OK when it's cold, but fails when it ge=
ts warm. The problem, barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure pla=
te. They've been known to fail when
 they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I speak...trust me.&nb=
sp;</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Use the middle hole on the release lever.</div>
<div><br>
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<b>Subject:&nbsp;</b>6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 3<br>
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dustrial &amp; Scientific (anabil007)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. Re: 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2 (Ed McGuirk)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. My darned clutch slave (John Summers)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend (im sloane)<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: My darned clutch slave (Dale)<br>
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Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize<br>
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I still have 90% left ?<br>
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&quot;Life is too short to drive boring cars&quot;<br>
<br>
Bill Pugh<br>
1957 TR3 &quot;Casper&quot;?<br>
TS16765L<br>
Wallace, CA<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>?<br>
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Message: 2<br>
Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400<br>
From: Ed McGuirk &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">emcguirk@opt=
online.net</a>&gt;<br>
To:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><b=
r>
Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2<br>
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it&nbs=
p;<br>
is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use&nbsp=
;<br>
anti-seize. &nbsp;( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only&nbs=
p;<br>
grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is a very&nb=
sp;<br>
poor grease substitute on moving parts.)<br>
<br>
ed<br>
<br>
However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I know?<br=
<br>
On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM,&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">6=
[email-masked]</a>&nbsp;wrote:<br>
&gt; Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400<br>
&gt; From: ron landis &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rdltr25=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; To:&nbsp;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a><br>
&gt; Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Listers &nbsp; Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on spli=
nes of wire wheels would be appreciated<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Thanks<br>
&gt; Ron<br>
&gt; &nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
&gt;<br>
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Message: 3<br>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 &#43;0000 (UTC)<br>
From: John Summers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rivers2hil=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br>
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:51378=
[email-masked]">513783005.85365.146=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind=
er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few=
 minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag=
onot to take the car out of gear
 in situations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On ad=
viceof one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing=
 the pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles a=
nd having a good amount of resistance
 I went for a short drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway=
 I had to crunch the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping et=
c. I felt confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to d=
o a U turn and come home.I wonder
 whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the slave and fr=
ankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would changing that ma=
ke a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer theslave or father awa<br>
&nbsp;y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?=
Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6<br>
Thanks folks.<br>
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Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 &#43;0000<br>
From: im sloane &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">im_sloane@hotm=
ail.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt;<br>
Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:SN1PR=
[email-masked]">=
[email-masked].=
com</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
<br>
Hey guys,<br>
Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next weekend? &nbs=
p;The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' is at Shel=
don Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info at<a href=3D"http://www.triumphclub.org/"=
>www.triumphclub.org</a>&lt;<a href=3D"http://www.triumphclub.org/">http://=
www.triumphclub.org</a>&gt;.
 It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around some ni=
ce mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun aut=
o-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be clear,=
 this is April 15, 16, &amp; 17. The
 vineyard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA line on I-77.<br>
<br>
<br>
Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the weather is nice=
. I think I'll drive the Spit this year.<br>
<br>
<br>
Sloane [&amp;#X1f60a]<br>
<br>
69-Six<br>
<br>
72-Spit<br>
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Message: 5<br>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 &#43;0000 (UTC)<br>
From: Dale &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br>
To: John Summers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">rivers2hills=
@yahoo.com</a>&gt;, &nbsp;&quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">6pa=
[email-masked]</a>&quot;<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack=
@autox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave<br>
Message-ID:<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:14222=
[email-masked]">1422265785.153944=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
<br>
John<br>
The normal hole to use is the center hole.?&nbsp;<br>
<br>
If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?? C=
heck to see where the fluid went.<br>
<br>
One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive=
 movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec=
ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you=
 feel a catch in the movement.?
 If so then you may have a broken pin in the clutch fork.<br>
<br>
Dale<br>
<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;From: John Summers via 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
&nbsp;To: &quot;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;&nbsp;<br>
&nbsp;Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM<br>
&nbsp;Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave<br>
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<br>
I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylind=
er and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few=
 minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time ag=
onot
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absolutely positively yes!

From: James_ via 6pack=20
Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:48 PM
To: Gene Holtzclaw=20
Cc: COLIN THOM ; [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] my darned clutch slave

I found this video. http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU
Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there is =
this guy too: http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE

BTW:
I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I cleaned =
out old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)
Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not.=20
(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)

On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

  I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked best =
for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top =
the system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod =
several strokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No =
bleeding needed, no help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch =
master cylinder

  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Droid
  On Apr 11, 2016 11:34 PM, Bud R via 6pack <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

    Right before you bolt the slave to the tranny bleed it by holding it =
in your hand and tilt the bleed screw so its the highest point of the =
whole assembly Takes a helper and some dexterity but if you leave a bit =
of air in the slave (which can easily happen when its done on the car) =
it compresses instead of the fluid being pushed when you push the pedal. =
A little temperature change and suddenly what worked doesn=92t work =
because things got heated up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy about =
incompletely bled slave cylinders.

    Bud Rolofson

    71TR6 CC57365 (Good 6)
    71 Spitfire MK IV Race Car #3
    69 Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)
    93 Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle=20
    77 Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit Bike)

    On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack =
<[email-masked]> wrote:

      Hi John=20

      First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the =
system after you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch =
hydraulic system is very short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure =
you pull back the carpet in the foot well and check the master cylinder =
inside the firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the leak.

      If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you re-bled =
it just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that there =
is no fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not =
the problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting =
about this a few months ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: =
Clutch works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The =
problem, barring a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. =
They've been known to fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I =
know of what I speak...trust me.=20

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      Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700
      From: anabil007 <[email-masked]>
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      Subject: [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste Anti-Seize
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      This stuff works great, of course you will have enough to do all =
the hub splines in the known universe.

      I still have 90% left ?

      > =
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HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&qid=3D1460227433&sr=3D8-25&keywords=3Dspli=
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      From: Ed McGuirk <[email-masked]>
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      I don't know what the correct spec is but my general rule is that =
if it=20
      is supposed to move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move =
use=20
      anti-seize.  ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who demand only =

      grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally anti-seize is =
a very=20
      poor grease substitute on moving parts.)

      ed

      However I believe the trunnion is supposed to use oil so what do I =
know?

      On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, [email-masked] wrote:
      > From: ron landis <[email-masked]>
      > To: [email-masked]
      > Listers   Any recommendations for the type of lube to put on =
splines of wire wheels would be appreciated
      >  =20

      Message: 3
      Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)
      From: John Summers <[email-masked]>
      To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
      Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
      Message-ID:
              =
<[email-masked]>
      Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"

      I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch =
slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a =
drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I =
learned a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations =
like that. ?After some crunching of gears I got home. ?On adviceof one =
more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the =
pedal and me under the car.?Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and =
having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning =
home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. =
?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I felt confident. ?I got to =
the end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I =
wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different spots on the rod into the =
slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I have it set at. ?Would =
changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to the hole nearer =
theslave or father awa
      y, should it come to that. ?Ideas, opinions, prayers??John =
Summers, ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6
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      Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000
      From: im sloane <[email-masked]>
      To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
      Subject: [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next weekend
      Message-ID:
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<[email-masked]=
ok.com>
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      Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"

      Hey guys,
      Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC next =
weekend?  The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The Gathering' =
is at Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info =
atwww.triumphclub.org<http://www.triumphclub.org>. It's a 3 day event, =
but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around some nice mountain and =
foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a really fun auto-cross. The =
main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just to be clear, this is =
April 15, 16, & 17. The vineyard is about 10 miles south of the NC/VA =
line on I-77.

      Maybe reply if you might be there. I will be as long as the =
weather is nice. I think I'll drive the Spit this year.

      Sloane [&#X1f60a]

      69-Six

      72-Spit

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      Message: 5
      Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)
      From: Dale <[email-masked]>
      To: John Summers <[email-masked]>,  "[email-masked]"
              <[email-masked]>
      Subject: Re: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
      Message-ID:
              =
<[email-masked]>
      Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"

      John
      The normal hole to use is the center hole.?=20

      If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the =
fluid go?? Check to see where the fluid went.

      One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have =
excessive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave =
rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for =
leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.? If so then you may =
have a broken pin in the clutch fork.

      Dale

            From: John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]>
      To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
      Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM
      Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave
        =20
      I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) ?I changed my clutch =
slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went for a drive andafter sitting in a =
drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. ?I =
learned a long time agonot=20
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<DIV>absolutely positively yes!</DIV>
<DIV=20
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A =
title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">James_ via 6pack</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:48 PM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">Gene Holtzclaw</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Cc:</B> <A title=[email-masked] =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">COLIN=20
THOM</A> ; <A title=[email-masked]=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [6pack] my darned clutch =
slave</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
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<DIV>I found this video. <A=20
href=3D"http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU">http://youtu.be/Vwjrh4ezwdU</A></DIV=
<DIV>Of course would not be as easy on the car but could be done. there =
is this=20
guy too: <A=20
href=3D"http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE">http://youtu.be/YlnlMuYzLRE</A></DIV=
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>BTW:</DIV>
<DIV>I was thinking of changing my brakes to DOT 5 silicone. (Yes, I =
cleaned out=20
old DOT 4 and replaced all lines and rear cylinders)</DIV>
<DIV>Would DOT 5 be good for clutches too? Don't see why not. </DIV>
<DIV>(Hope I didn't open a whole new can of worms)</DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV><BR>On Apr 12, 2016, at 4:45 AM, Gene Holtzclaw via 6pack &lt;<A=20
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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  <DIV>
  <DIV>I had a old school Triumph mechanic show me years ago what worked =
best=20
  for him, and now me. He would leave the top off the clutch master. Top =
the=20
  system off with fluid, then slowly push in on the slave cylinder rod =
several=20
  strokes before putting the pin in at the clutch fork. No bleeding =
needed, no=20
  help needed. All air traveled up the the clutch master cylinder</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT style=3D"COLOR: #333333"><I>Sent from my Verizon Wireless =
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  Droid</I></FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV class=3Delided-text>On Apr 11, 2016 11:34 PM, Bud R via 6pack =
&lt;<A=20
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    <DIV style=3D"WORD-WRAP: break-word">Right before you bolt the slave =
to the=20
    tranny bleed it by holding it in your hand and tilt the bleed screw =
so its=20
    the highest point of the whole assembly Takes a helper and some =
dexterity=20
    but if you leave a bit of air in the slave (which can easily happen =
when its=20
    done on the car) it compresses instead of the fluid being pushed =
when you=20
    push the pedal. A little temperature change and suddenly what worked =
doesn=92t=20
    work because things got heated up a bit. TR clutches can be touchy =
about=20
    incompletely bled slave cylinders.<BR>
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    style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: 'helvetica'; FONT-VARIANT: normal; =
WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; =
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    Spitfire MK III (back up FE engine/dinghy car)</DIV>
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    Minnie Winnie Race Support Vehicle </DIV>
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    Z-50A Hardly Davidson Honda Mini-Trail Bike (Triumph Pit =
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    <DIV>
    <DIV>On Apr 11, 2016, at 7:23 AM, COLIN THOM via 6pack &lt;<A=20
    href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;=20
    wrote:</DIV><BR>
    <BLOCKQUOTE>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"WHITE-SPACE: normal; WORD-SPACING: 0px; TEXT-TRANSFORM: =
none; FONT: 18px 'helvetica'; LETTER-SPACING: normal; TEXT-INDENT: 0px">
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      style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'arial' , 'helvetica' , =
sans-serif">Hi=20
      John=20
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>First: Dale's right. If yo had to add fluid and re-bleed the =
system=20
      after you'd just bled it, where did the fluid go? The clutch =
hydraulic=20
      system is very short so it won't be hard to find. Make sure you =
pull back=20
      the carpet in the foot well and check the master cylinder inside =
the=20
      firewall. That's where you're most likely to see the leak.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>If, when you say you added fluid, you really mean that you =
re-bled it=20
      just for the sake of trying it gain, and you are certain that =
there is no=20
      fluid leak or air in the system, then the hydraulic system is not =
the=20
      problem and the clutch most probably is. I wrote a lengthy posting =
about=20
      this a few months ago in response to someone's similar symptoms: =
Clutch=20
      works OK when it's cold, but fails when it gets warm. The problem, =
barring=20
      a hydraulic issue, is the clutch pressure plate. They've been =
known to=20
      fail when they get hot due to poor metallurgy. I know of what I=20
      speak...trust me. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
      <DIV>Use the middle hole on the release lever.</DIV>
      <DIV><BR><BR>
      <HR>

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      "Re: Contents of 6pack digest..."<BR><BR><BR>Today's=20
      Topics:<BR><BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste=20
      Anti-Seize Compound:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
      href=3D"http://amazon.com/">Amazon.com</A>: Industrial &amp; =
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      Summers)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. LBC Show in North/Western NC next =
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      sloane)<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: My darned clutch slave=20
      =
(Dale)<BR><BR><BR>-------------------------------------------------------=
---------------<BR><BR>Message:=20
      1<BR>Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2016 11:46:14 -0700<BR>From: anabil007 =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR>To=
:=20
      <A =
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=20
      [6pack] Loctite 234227 LOC51048 Moly Paste=20
      Anti-Seize<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      Compound:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
      href=3D"http://amazon.com/">Amazon.com</A>: Industrial &amp;=20
      Scientific<BR>Message-ID: &lt;<A=20
      =
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      text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<BR><BR>This stuff works great, of =
course you=20
      will have enough to do all the hub splines in the known =
universe.<BR><BR>I=20
      still have 90% left ?<BR><BR><BR>&gt; <A=20
      =
href=3D"http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LOC51048-Anti-Seize-Compound=
/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1460227433&amp;sr=3D8-25=
&amp;keywords=3Dspline+lubricant">http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LO=
C51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D=
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/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D1460227433&amp;sr=3D8-25=
&amp;keywords=3Dspline+lubricant">http://www.amazon.com/Loctite-234227-LO=
C51048-Anti-Seize-Compound/dp/B001HWBSJW/ref=3Dsr_1_25?ie=3DUTF8&amp;qid=3D=
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BR>"Life=20
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      "Casper"?<BR>TS16765L<BR>Wallace, CA<BR><A=20
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      2<BR>Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2016 18:10:06 -0400<BR>From: Ed McGuirk =
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To:=20
      <A =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A><BR>Subject:=
=20
      Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 20, Issue 2<BR>Message-ID: &lt;<A=20
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      text/plain; charset=3Dwindows-1252; format=3Dflowed<BR><BR>I don't =
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      the correct spec is but my general rule is that if it <BR>is =
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      move, use grease; and if it is not supposed to move use=20
      <BR>anti-seize.&nbsp; ( I get kind of annoyed at the people who =
demand=20
      only <BR>grease where it should be anti-seize. And generally =
anti-seize is=20
      a very <BR>poor grease substitute on moving=20
      parts.)<BR><BR>ed<BR><BR>However I believe the trunnion is =
supposed to use=20
      oil so what do I know?<BR><BR>On 4/9/2016 2:00 PM, <A=20
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      wrote:<BR>&gt; Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2016 22:43:32 -0400<BR>&gt; From: =
ron=20
      landis &lt;<A=20
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&gt;=20
      To: <A =
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      Subject: [6pack] Wire wheel grease<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; =
Listers&nbsp;&nbsp; Any=20
      recommendations for the type of lube to put on splines of wire =
wheels=20
      would be appreciated<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Thanks<BR>&gt;=20
      Ron<BR>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      =
<BR>&gt;<BR><BR><BR><BR>------------------------------<BR><BR>Message:=20
      3<BR>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)<BR>From: John =
Summers=20
      &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR>=
To:=20
      "<A href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>" =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR>Subj=
ect:=20
      [6pack] My darned clutch=20
      slave<BR>Message-ID:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m">[email-masked]</A>&gt;<BR=
>Content-Type:=20
      text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<BR><BR>I'm wondering if there is =
anyone=20
      there:)) ?I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. ?Went =
for a=20
      drive andafter sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck =
of a=20
      time getting it in gear. ?I learned a long time agonot to take the =
car out=20
      of gear in situations like that. ?After some crunching of gears I =
got=20
      home. ?On adviceof one more experienced than me I re-bled the =
thing with=20
      my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.?Finally after =
seeing no=20
      more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I went for =
a short=20
      drive.Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had to =
crunch=20
      the gears again. ?More fluid was added and?more pumping etc. I =
felt=20
      confident. ?I got to the end of my street today before I had to do =
a U=20
      turn and come home.I wonder whats wrong? ? ?There are different =
spots on=20
      the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember?which hole I =
have it=20
      set at. ?Would changing that make a difference? ?Should I go to =
the hole=20
      nearer theslave or father awa<BR>y, should it come to that. =
?Ideas,=20
      opinions, prayers??John Summers, ?Jacksonville Florida'74 TR =
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      4<BR>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 02:57:05 +0000<BR>From: im sloane =
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      [6pack] LBC Show in North/Western NC next=20
      =
weekend<BR>Message-ID:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
      &lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
d18.prod.outlook.com">SN1PR18MB019299DB9A9CA7FAB2D4FB6F8E930@SN1PR18MB019=
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      <BR>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<BR><BR>Hey=20
      guys,<BR>Anybody on-list close enough to come to North/Western NC =
next=20
      weekend?&nbsp; The Triumph Club of the Carolinas annual event 'The =

      Gathering' is at Sheldon Vineyards in Dobson, NC. Info at<A=20
      href=3D"http://www.triumphclub.org/">www.triumphclub.org</A>&lt;<A =

      =
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      It's a 3 day event, but Friday is mostly a self-guided tour around =
some=20
      nice mountain and foot-hill back roads and Sunday morning is a =
really fun=20
      auto-cross. The main car show is all day Saturday of course. Just =
to be=20
      clear, this is April 15, 16, &amp; 17. The vineyard is about 10 =
miles=20
      south of the NC/VA line on I-77.<BR><BR><BR>Maybe reply if you =
might be=20
      there. I will be as long as the weather is nice. I think I'll =
drive the=20
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      5<BR>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)<BR>From: Dale =
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John=20
      Summers &lt;<A=20
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      "<A=20
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      Re: [6pack] My darned clutch=20
      slave<BR>Message-ID:<BR>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
&lt;<A=20
      =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked].=
com">[email-masked]</A>&gt=
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      text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<BR><BR>John<BR>The normal hole to =
use is the=20
      center hole.? <BR><BR>If you have had to add fluid after bleeding =
then=20
      where did the fluid go?? Check to see where the fluid =
went.<BR><BR>One=20
      thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have =
excessive=20
      movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod=20
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