Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave

From: John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 01:47:33 +0000 (UTC)

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I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) =C2=A0I changed my clutch slave c=
ylinder and bled it. =C2=A0Went for a drive andafter sitting in a drive thr=
ough a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. =C2=A0I learned=
 a long time agonot to take the car out of gear in situations like that. =
=C2=A0After some crunching of gears I got home. =C2=A0On adviceof one more =
experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the pedal and m=
e under the car.=C2=A0Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a=
 good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.Returning home and abou=
t to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again. =C2=A0More flui=
d was added and=C2=A0more pumping etc. I felt confident. =C2=A0I got to the=
 end of my street today before I had to do a U turn and come home.I wonder =
whats wrong? =C2=A0 =C2=A0There are different spots on the rod into the sla=
ve and frankly I don't remember=C2=A0which hole I have it set at. =C2=A0Wou=
ld changing that make a difference? =C2=A0Should I go to the hole nearer th=
eslave or father away, should it come to that. =C2=A0Ideas, opinions, praye=
rs?=C2=A0John Summers, =C2=A0Jacksonville Florida'74 TR 6
Thanks folks.
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sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936"=
 dir=3D"ltr">I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) &nbsp;I changed my c=
lutch slave cylinder and bled it. &nbsp;Went for a drive and</div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">after sitting in a dr=
ive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. &nbsp;I =
learned a long time ago</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_493=
6" dir=3D"ltr">not to take the car out of gear in situations like that. &nb=
sp;After some crunching of gears I got home. &nbsp;On advice</div><div id=
=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">of one more experienc=
ed than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the pedal and me under t=
he car.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"=
ltr">Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of r=
esistance I went for a short drive.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14602=
50925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">Returning home and about to turn into my drivewa=
y I had to crunch the gears again. &nbsp;More fluid was added and&nbsp;</di=
v><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">more pumping=
 etc. I felt confident. &nbsp;I got to the end of my street today before I =
had to do a U turn and come home.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250=
925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">I wonder whats wrong? &nbsp; &nbsp;There are diffe=
rent spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember&nbsp;</di=
v><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">which hole I=
 have it set at. &nbsp;Would changing that make a difference? &nbsp;Should =
I go to the hole nearer the</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971=
_4936" dir=3D"ltr">slave or father away, should it come to that. &nbsp;Idea=
s, opinions, prayers?&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971=
_4936" dir=3D"ltr">John Summers, &nbsp;Jacksonville Florida</div><div id=3D=
"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">'74 TR 6</div><div id=3D=
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_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">Thanks folks.</div></div></b=
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From: Dale via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 11:18:53 +0000 (UTC)

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John
The normal hole to use is the center hole.=C2=A0=20

If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?=C2=
=A0 Check to see where the fluid went.

One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive=
 movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec=
ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you=
 feel a catch in the movement.=C2=A0 If so then you may have a broken pin i=
n the clutch fork.

Dale

      From: John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]>
 To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>=20
 Sent: Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM
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ght here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessive movemen=
t in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnected from=
 the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you feel a =
catch in the movement.&nbsp; If so then you may have a broken pin in the cl=
utch fork.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7460"><br></div>=
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rned clutch slave<br> </font> </div> <div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146028577=
0196_7078" class=3D"y_msg_container"><br original_target=3D"http://autox.te=
am.net/mailman/options/6pack/[email-masked]"><div id=3D"yiv2481311906">=
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y:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;"><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_=
4936" dir=3D"ltr">I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) &nbsp;I changed=
 my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. &nbsp;Went for a drive and</div><div=
 id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">after=
 sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it i=
n gear. &nbsp;I learned a long time ago</div><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">not to take the car out of gear=
 in situations like that. &nbsp;After some crunching of gears I got home. &=
nbsp;On advice</div><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971=
_4936" dir=3D"ltr">of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with=
 my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yiv24=
81311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">Finally after see=
ing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I went for a=
 short drive.</div><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_=
4936" dir=3D"ltr">Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had t=
o crunch the gears again. &nbsp;More fluid was added and&nbsp;</div><div id=
=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">more pum=
ping etc. I felt confident. &nbsp;I got to the end of my street today befor=
e I had to do a U turn and come home.</div><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16=
_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">I wonder whats wrong? &nbsp; &nbs=
p;There are different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't r=
emember&nbsp;</div><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_=
4936" dir=3D"ltr">which hole I have it set at. &nbsp;Would changing that ma=
ke a difference? &nbsp;Should I go to the hole nearer the</div><div id=3D"y=
iv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">slave or fath=
er away, should it come to that. &nbsp;Ideas, opinions, prayers?&nbsp;</div=
><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">=
John Summers, &nbsp;Jacksonville Florida</div><div id=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3=
_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">'74 TR 6</div><div id=3D"yiv24=
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=3D"yiv2481311906yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936" dir=3D"ltr">Thanks f=
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From: im sloane via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 12:02:56 +0000

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John,

I think much more knowledgeable guys will reply soon. The clutch is a trick=
y issue, and I think you may have internal issues, throw out bearing, etc t=
hat I don't know enough about to discuss.

However, I can tell you a couple simple things. The holes in that rod are n=
ot for adjustment although it would appear they are. I think the center hol=
e is right. Also, cut the engine to prevent all that grinding when it acts =
up. It may also help if you know how to 'float the gears', trucker term for=
 shifting through the gears with no clutch use. I don't like to do it all t=
he time, but it's a good emergency technique to get you home in a pinch.

If you're clutch seems fine, but then is not, it kinda sounds like you migh=
t still have a hydraulic issue, maybe clutch master needs work. Also, check=
 the holes in both that tranny rod and the clutch pedal to ensure the pins =
are not wobbley due to wear. Just a little bit of wobble at the pedal will =
make for a huge loss in push rod movement. And when you just barely have en=
ough clutch to not grind the gears, you're so close to grinding them and do=
n't even know it.

good luck,

Sloane

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Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2016 1:47 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [6pack] My darned clutch slave

I'm wondering if there is anyone there:))

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<p>John,</p>
<p>I think much&nbsp;more knowledgeable guys will reply soon. The clutch is=
 a tricky issue, and I think you may have internal issues, throw out bearin=
g, etc that I don't know enough about to discuss.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>However, I can tell you a couple simple things. The holes in that rod ar=
e not for adjustment although it would appear they are. I think the center =
hole is right. Also, cut the engine to prevent all that grinding when it ac=
ts up. It may also help if you know
 how to 'float the gears', trucker term for shifting through the gears with=
 no clutch use. I don't like to do it all the time, but it's a good emergen=
cy technique to get you home in a pinch.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>If you're clutch seems fine, but then is not, it kinda sounds like you m=
ight&nbsp;still have a hydraulic issue, maybe clutch master needs work. Als=
o, check the holes in both that tranny rod and the clutch pedal to ensure t=
he pins are not wobbley due to wear.
 Just a little bit of wobble at the pedal will make for a huge loss in push=
 rod movement. And when you just barely have enough clutch to not grind the=
 gears, you're so close to grinding them and don't even know it.&nbsp;</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>good luck,</p>
<p>Sloane&nbsp;&nbsp;</p>
<br>
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From: John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 21:05:51 +0000 (UTC)

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everybody, it is a brand new slave, though installed several months ago, so=
 I doubt that is the=C2=A0problem. I justworked up the courage to go jack i=
n up again and look at said slave (me) and change the position of the rod.S=
ad thing is I had a fender bender in our good car (98 Maxima) and it won't =
start because of the frame being bent, the trunk floorbeing bent AND the my=
sterious "safety feature" of the fuel pump not pumping to keep fire from ha=
ppening.This is only the sixth week that we've been jerked around between S=
tate Farm and Gerber Glass and Collisionrepair being told it is twice more =
expensive to repair than it's worth ($2,000). =C2=A0We have run up a horren=
douscar rental bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay. =C2=A0So, =
gotta get Leyland's French Blue curse reliable enoughto travel within a 15 =
mile radius. =C2=A0And I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years old with bad hips. =
=C2=A0 I DO appreciate the input though.
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    On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:21 AM, Dale <[email-masked]> wrote:
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><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7343">everybody, it is a brand=
 new slave, though installed several months ago, so I doubt that is the&nbs=
p;</span>problem. I just</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_73=
44">worked up the courage to go jack in up again and look at said slave (me=
) and change the position of the rod.</div><div id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146=
0320568106_7345">Sad thing is I had a fender bender in our good car (98 Max=
ima) and it won't start because of the frame being bent, the trunk floor</d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7346">being bent =
AND the mysterious "safety feature" of the fuel pump not pumping to keep fi=
re from happening.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568=
106_7347">This is only the sixth week that we've been jerked around between=
 State Farm and Gerber Glass and Collision</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7348">repair being told it is twice more expens=
ive to repair than it's worth ($2,000). &nbsp;We have run up a horrendous</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7349">car rental=
 bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay. &nbsp;So, gotta get Leyl=
and's French Blue curse reliable enough</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_1=
6_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7350">to travel within a 15 mile radius. &nbsp;And=
 I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years old with bad hips. &nbsp; I DO appreciate =
the input though.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14603205681=
06_7351"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7352"></div> <div class=
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ay: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helv=
etica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D"f=
ont-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,=
 sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"A=
rial"> On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:21 AM, Dale &lt;[email-masked]&gt; w=
rote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <div class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"=
yiv7817718244"><div><div style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-fam=
ily:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-se=
rif;font-size:14px;"><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146028577019=
6_7414">John</div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7=
415"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146=
0285770196_7416">The normal hole to use is the center hole.&nbsp; <br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_723=
2"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14602=
85770196_7231">If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did t=
he fluid go?&nbsp; Check to see where the fluid went.<br clear=3D"none"></d=
iv><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7295"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_729=
6">One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excess=
ive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod discon=
nected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if =
you feel a catch in the movement.&nbsp; If so then you may have a broken pi=
n in the clutch fork.</div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_146028=
5770196_7460"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1460285770196_7459"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7066"><span id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_y=
m19_1_1460285770196_7440">Dale</span></div><div class=3D"yiv7817718244qtdSe=
parateBR" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7067"><br clea=
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 Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div class=
=3D"yiv7817718244yqt7432867841" id=3D"yiv7817718244yqt43343"><div dir=3D"lt=
r" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7070"> <font id=3D"yi=
v7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7069" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2">=
 </font><hr id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7068" size=
=3D"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> John Summers =
via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D=
"font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> "[email-masked]" &lt;[email-masked]=
eam.net&gt; <br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:<=
/span></b> Saturday, April 9, 2016 9:47 PM<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span styl=
e=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> [6pack] My darned clutch slave<=
br clear=3D"none">  </div> <div class=3D"yiv7817718244y_msg_container" id=
=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7078"><br clear=3D"none"><=
div id=3D"yiv7817718244"><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14602857=
70196_7077"><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7076" s=
tyle=3D"color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helveti=
ca Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div =
dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">I'm wo=
ndering if there is anyone there:)) &nbsp;I changed my clutch slave cylinde=
r and bled it. &nbsp;Went for a drive and</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv78=
17718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">after sitting in a drive thro=
ugh a few minutes had a heck of a time getting it in gear. &nbsp;I learned =
a long time ago</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1460250925971_4936">not to take the car out of gear in situations like that=
. &nbsp;After some crunching of gears I got home. &nbsp;On advice</div><div=
 dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">of on=
e more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing the peda=
l and me under the car.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">Finally after seeing no more air bubbles =
and having a good amount of resistance I went for a short drive.</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">Return=
ing home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gears again=
. &nbsp;More fluid was added and&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv78177=
18244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">more pumping etc. I felt confide=
nt. &nbsp;I got to the end of my street today before I had to do a U turn a=
nd come home.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
60250925971_4936">I wonder whats wrong? &nbsp; &nbsp;There are different sp=
ots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember&nbsp;</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">which =
hole I have it set at. &nbsp;Would changing that make a difference? &nbsp;S=
hould I go to the hole nearer the</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244=
yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">slave or father away, should it come =
to that. &nbsp;Ideas, opinions, prayers?&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"=
yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">John Summers, &nbsp;Jack=
sonville Florida</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1460250925971_4936">'74 TR 6</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
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From: Dale Morgan via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 18:19:59 -0400

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John

Just a thought, are you sure that you put the slave cylinder back on in the s=
ame place from where it came out of?

Why I ask is that if it is on the wrong side of the bracket it would shorten=
 your activation throw by almost an inch.  This would then explain the sympt=
oms you have posted.

I have done things like this in the past.

Dale

Sent from my iPad

> On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:05 PM, John Summers <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> everybody, it is a brand new slave, though installed several months ago, s=
o I doubt that is the problem. I just
> worked up the courage to go jack in up again and look at said slave (me) a=
nd change the position of the rod.
> Sad thing is I had a fender bender in our good car (98 Maxima) and it won'=
t start because of the frame being bent, the trunk floor
> being bent AND the mysterious "safety feature" of the fuel pump not pumpin=
g to keep fire from happening.
> This is only the sixth week that we've been jerked around between State Fa=
rm and Gerber Glass and Collision
> repair being told it is twice more expensive to repair than it's worth ($2=
,000).  We have run up a horrendous
> car rental bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay.  So, gotta ge=
t Leyland's French Blue curse reliable enough
> to travel within a 15 mile radius.  And I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years ol=
d with bad hips.   I DO appreciate the input though.
> The normal hole to use is the center hole. =20
>=20
> If you have had to add fluid after bleeding then where did the fluid go?  C=
heck to see where the fluid went.
>=20
> One thought here is to safely jack the car up and see if you have excessiv=
e movement in the clutch fork. This can be done with the slave rod disconnec=
ted from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help for leverage to see if you f=
eel a catch in the movement.  If so then you may have a broken pin in the cl=
utch fork.
> I'm wondering if there is anyone there:))  I changed my clutch slave cylin=
der and bled it.  Went for a drive and
> after sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time gettin=
g it in gear.  I learned a long time ago
> not to take the car out of gear in situations like that.  After some crunc=
hing of gears I got home.  On advice
> of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with my son pushing th=
e pedal and me under the car.=20
> Finally after seeing no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resis=
tance I went for a short drive.
> Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crunch the gear=
s again.  More fluid was added and=20
> more pumping etc. I felt confident.  I got to the end of my street today b=
efore I had to do a U turn and come home.
> I wonder whats wrong?    There are different spots on the rod into the sla=
ve and frankly I don't remember=20
> which hole I have it set at.  Would changing that make a difference?  Shou=
ld I go to the hole nearer the
> slave or father away, should it come to that.  Ideas, opinions, prayers?=20=

> John Summers,  Jacksonville Florida
> '74 TR 6
>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>John</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignatur=
e"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Just a thought, are you sure tha=
t you put the slave cylinder back on in the same place from where it came ou=
t of?</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSign=
ature">Why I ask is that if it is on the wrong side of the bracket it would s=
horten your activation throw by almost an inch. &nbsp;This would then explai=
n the symptoms you have posted.</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></di=
v><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">I have done things like this in the past.</=
div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">=
Dale<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Apr 10, 2016, at 5:05 PM, Joh=
n Summers &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div style=3D"=
color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue=
, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px"><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7342"><span id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14603205681=
06_7343">everybody, it is a brand new slave, though installed several months=
 ago, so I doubt that is the&nbsp;</span>problem. I just</div><div id=3D"yui=
_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7344">worked up the courage to go jack in up ag=
ain and look at said slave (me) and change the position of the rod.</div><di=
v id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7345">Sad thing is I had a fender be=
nder in our good car (98 Maxima) and it won't start because of the frame bei=
ng bent, the trunk floor</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14603=
20568106_7346">being bent AND the mysterious "safety feature" of the fuel pu=
mp not pumping to keep fire from happening.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7347">This is only the sixth week that we've bee=
n jerked around between State Farm and Gerber Glass and Collision</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7348">repair being told it i=
s twice more expensive to repair than it's worth ($2,000). &nbsp;We have run=
 up a horrendous</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106=
_7349">car rental bill above the part the "Good Neighbors"will pay. &nbsp;So=
, gotta get Leyland's French Blue curse reliable enough</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7350">to travel within a 15 mile rad=
ius. &nbsp;And I'm (expletive dleted) 67 years old with bad hips. &nbsp; I D=
O appreciate the input though.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1=
_1460320568106_7351"><br id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460320568106_7352"></div> <=
div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class=3D"yahoo_quoted" style=3D=
"display: block;"> <div style=3D"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue,=
 Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div style=3D=
"font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande=
, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir=3D"ltr"><font size=3D"2" face=3D"A=
rial"> On Sunday, April 10, 2016 7:21 AM, Dale &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tpdwinc=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></font></div>  <br><br> <d=
iv class=3D"y_msg_container"><div id=3D"yiv7817718244"><div><div style=3D"co=
lor:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, He=
lvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"><div id=3D"yiv781=
7718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7414">John</div><div id=3D"yiv7817718=
244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7415"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D=
"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7416">The normal hole to use i=
s the center hole.&nbsp; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7232"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7=
817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7231">If you have had to add fluid a=
fter bleeding then where did the fluid go?&nbsp; Check to see where the flui=
d went.<br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_14=
60285770196_7295"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_=
0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7296">One thought here is to safely jack the car up a=
nd see if you have excessive movement in the clutch fork. This can be done w=
ith the slave rod disconnected from the arm. A small piece of pipe may help f=
or leverage to see if you feel a catch in the movement.&nbsp; If so then you=
 may have a broken pin in the clutch fork.</div><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7460"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv781=
7718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7459"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div i=
d=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7066"><span id=3D"yiv78177=
18244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7440">Dale</span></div><div class=3D"yi=
v7817718244qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196=
_7067"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"yiv78177182=
44yahoo_quoted" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7073" sty=
le=3D"display:block;">  <div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770=
196_7072" style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Ari=
al, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:14px;"> <div id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_=
3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7071" style=3D"font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvet=
ica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div=
 class=3D"yiv7817718244yqt7432867841" id=3D"yiv7817718244yqt43343"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7070"> <font id=3D"=
yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7069" face=3D"Arial" size=3D"2"=
> </font><hr id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7068" size=3D=
"1"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> John Summers via 6=
pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt=
;<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> "<a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br clear=3D"none=
"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, April 9, 2=
016 9:47 PM<br clear=3D"none"> <b><span style=3D"font-weight:bold;">Subject:=
</span></b> [6pack] My darned clutch slave<br clear=3D"none">  </div> <div c=
lass=3D"yiv7817718244y_msg_container" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1=
460285770196_7078"><br clear=3D"none"><div id=3D"yiv7817718244"><div id=3D"y=
iv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7077"><div id=3D"yiv7817718244yu=
i_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460285770196_7076" style=3D"color:#000;background-color:#ff=
f;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande=
, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0=
_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">I'm wondering if there is anyone there:)) &nbsp;=
I changed my clutch slave cylinder and bled it. &nbsp;Went for a drive and</=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936=
">after sitting in a drive through a few minutes had a heck of a time gettin=
g it in gear. &nbsp;I learned a long time ago</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yi=
v7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">not to take the car out of g=
ear in situations like that. &nbsp;After some crunching of gears I got home.=
 &nbsp;On advice</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_=
1460250925971_4936">of one more experienced than me I re-bled the thing with=
 my son pushing the pedal and me under the car.&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">Finally after seeing=
 no more air bubbles and having a good amount of resistance I went for a sho=
rt drive.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250=
925971_4936">Returning home and about to turn into my driveway I had to crun=
ch the gears again. &nbsp;More fluid was added and&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">more pumping etc=
. I felt confident. &nbsp;I got to the end of my street today before I had t=
o do a U turn and come home.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_=
16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">I wonder whats wrong? &nbsp; &nbsp;There are=
 different spots on the rod into the slave and frankly I don't remember&nbsp=
;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4=
936">which hole I have it set at. &nbsp;Would changing that make a differenc=
e? &nbsp;Should I go to the hole nearer the</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7=
817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">slave or father away, should i=
t come to that. &nbsp;Ideas, opinions, prayers?&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"ltr" i=
d=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1460250925971_4936">John Summers, &nbsp;=
Jacksonville Florida</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yui_3_16_0_ym1=
9_1_1460250925971_4936">'74 TR 6</div><div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv7817718244yu=
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