Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 21, Issue 7

From: John Summers via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 04:43:10 +0000 (UTC)

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I forgot the question. =C2=A0I'll take it as far as I can in the driveway. =
=C2=A0If all else fails, it's off tothe local English mechanic. =C2=A0Put a=
 Mustang 300hp 6 cylinder in it plus drive train,,,,,patch up the rustmake =
it a world beater since I can't=C2=A0afford a Caterham!!!=C2=A0=20

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:01:38 -0500
From: "dave n" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:=C2=A0 Transmission oil and clutch.

my experience was a tr4 od tran in a tr3 (not tr3a).=C2=A0 it ran for a whi=
le (about 7 miles over several days) as the oil drained out.=C2=A0 I don?t =
remember any symptoms other than at some point, and it seemed sudden, it wo=
uld not shift at all.=C2=A0 (that was about 6 months ago so my memory may n=
ot be exact.)=C2=A0 =C2=A0 pulled the tran as everyone said it was the fork=
, and took it to a british car repair shop.=C2=A0 they told me that after f=
illing it there was a dinner plate size puddle under it the next morning.=
=C2=A0 they did a great job of sealing it, and I?ve since run the car with =
no issues.

From: im sloane via 6pack=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:09 AM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch.

Understood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes=
, and then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to be?

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fyi ? if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won?t shift.=C2=A0 as=
k me how I know.

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 22:28:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Summers <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] 6pack Digest, Vol 21, Issue 6
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A lot to digest here. ?Seems like the stack of washers idea would be my fir=
st?choice. ?Will it shine and then not shift?After adding oil it went throu=
gh the gears once while on the jack. ?It was so smooth I thought the proble=
m was solved.When I put it in neutral and depressed the clutch pedal there =
was noticeably less resistance and it wouldn't go?through the gears. ?Had m=
y son check the fluid in the MC and it was proper, EXCEPT the color. ?Somew=
hat dark.I'm going to just go ahead and order a "new" MC and pray. ?You kno=
w, the funny thing is thatI checked the serial numbers on the rear tires an=
d went to the Michelin web site and found out they were bornin 1993. ?New t=
ires on the front. ?The freaking TIRES have lasted longer than anything!! ?=
I saw an Ad in Hemmingslast night showing an old man (like me except I'm ju=
st 67) standing next to an older 'Vette in his driveway withthe caption "It=
 was parked in your mind long before your driveway". ?We took a TR6 for a t=
est drive in 1970 andI=20
 fell in love with the look,,,,,finally got the '74 in '98. ?What can I say=
,,,,,,,,,=20

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? 4. Re: Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch. (im sloane)

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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 04:05:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: John Summers <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch.
Message-ID:
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There you are you old Six Pack!!As shared with Triumphs list: ?I thought I =
had the silver bullet today. ?I had read what type transmission oil to use.=
Had a couple ideas working. ?One was go to NAPA and get the oil. ?I did wit=
h the nicecounterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and a pretty cool hand =
pump that would pump it upthrough the drain hole. ?I found a hose to which =
I wrapped the right amount of tape so this tubewent into the hole without l=
osing a drop. ?Generally, I got the entire quart in the gearbox with very l=
ittlespillage. ?I couldn't wait to fire the beast up and run through the ge=
ars. ?Which I did. ?The first go?through went like BUTTER. Then I took it o=
ut of gear eased up on the clutch and went back to square 1No entry into th=
e holy 4speed. ?Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid=
. So, I guess?my next purchase will be new gaskets. ? Do I need more fluid =
in the transmission? ?I still can't getthe bolt out where I could see it's =
being topped off. ? Hey
? Jacksonville guys, any hands on helpwould be greatly appreciated.. ?For e=
xample, my wife has two Dr. Appointments tomorrow. ?While at NAPAI picked u=
p the Haynes Repair Manual For '98 Maxima hoping to get a breakthrough clue=
 about the?mysterious shut off switch.Hertz is getting rich off us. ?Anyway=
, I'll post this in the Six Pack also. ?The more the merrier.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 12:16:34 +0000
From: im sloane <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch.
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Hey John,

It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of shimm=
ing out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a hal=
f inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it w=
orked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I sai=
d before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom i=
s related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You=
 can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil.

Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth =
a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork p=
in.? I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to the same=
 problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back =
around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of alignment a=
gain and doesn't work at all.

The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn'=
t like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wond=
er why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one?

good luck,

Sloane :)

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From: 6pack <[email-masked]> on behalf of John Summers via 6p=
ack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch.

There you are you old Six Pack!!
.? Took a look at the clutch master and I could see dark fluid. So, I guess
my next purchase will be new gaskets.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 08:13:51 -0500
From: "dave n" <[email-masked]>
To: <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch.

fyi ? if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won?t shift.? ask me =
how I know.

From: im sloane via 6pack=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:16 AM
To: [email-masked]=20
Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch.

Hey John,

It's not the correct fix of course, but why don't you try my trick of shimm=
ing out the slave cylinder with two stacks of washers. You need about a hal=
f inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it w=
orked for me for years, until I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I sai=
d before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom i=
s related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You=
 can't get it into gear because it's spinning, not because it's low on oil.=
=20

Now, I didn't have a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth =
a try. You're going to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork p=
in.? I'm not certain, but I believe working once, and then back to the same=
 problem, is a big indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back =
around to the correct spot and works once, and then it's out of alignment a=
gain and doesn't work at all.=20

The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A Triumph doesn'=
t like being counted on as primary transportation. They can tell. Ever wond=
er why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have one?

good luck,

Sloane :)
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Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 15:09:41 +0000
From: im sloane <[email-masked]>
To: "[email-masked]" <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch.
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Understood - and good to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes=
, and then refuse to go into gear as this symptom sounds to be?

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Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch.

fyi - if a transmission is essentially out of oil, it won't shift.? ask me =
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Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 14:01:38 -0500<br>From: "dave n" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"m=
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my experience was a tr4 od tran in a tr3 (not tr3a).&nbsp; it ran for a whi=
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nbsp; they did a great job of sealing it, and I?ve since run the car with n=
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: Transmission oil and clutch.<br><br><br><br>Understood - and good to know=
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gear as this symptom sounds to be?<br><br><br><br>-------------------------=
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&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>A lot to digest =
here. ?Seems like the stack of washers idea would be my first?choice. ?Will=
 it shine and then not shift?After adding oil it went through the gears onc=
e while on the jack. ?It was so smooth I thought the problem was solved.Whe=
n I put it in neutral and depressed the clutch pedal there was noticeably l=
ess resistance and it wouldn't go?through the gears. ?Had my son check the =
fluid in the MC and it was proper, EXCEPT the color. ?Somewhat dark.I'm goi=
ng to just go ahead and order a "new" MC and pray. ?You know, the funny thi=
ng is thatI checked the serial numbers on the rear tires and went to the Mi=
chelin web site and found out they were bornin 1993. ?New tires on the fron=
t. ?The freaking TIRES have lasted longer than anything!! ?I saw an Ad in H=
emmingslast night showing an old man (like me except I'm just 67) standing =
next to an older 'Vette in his driveway withthe caption "It was parked in y=
our mind long before your driveway". ?We took a TR6 for a test drive in 197=
0 andI <br> fell in love with the look,,,,,finally got the '74 in '98. ?Wha=
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t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and cl=
utch.<br>Message-ID:<br>??? &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:2102293675.207873.1462=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:2102293675.207873.1=
[email-masked]">2102293675.207873.1462939543974=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=
=3D"utf-8"<br><br>There you are you old Six Pack!!As shared with Triumphs l=
ist: ?I thought I had the silver bullet today. ?I had read what type transm=
ission oil to use.Had a couple ideas working. ?One was go to NAPA and get t=
he oil. ?I did with the nicecounterman help find a Quart of SAE 80W90 and a=
 pretty cool hand pump that would pump it upthrough the drain hole. ?I foun=
d a hose to which I wrapped the right amount of tape so this tubewent into =
the hole without losing a drop. ?Generally, I got the entire quart in the g=
earbox with very littlespillage. ?I couldn't wait to fire the beast up and =
run through the gears. ?Which I did. ?The first go?through went like BUTTER=
. Then I took it out of gear eased up on the clutch and went back to square=
 1No entry into the holy 4speed. ?Took a look at the clutch master and I co=
uld see dark fluid. So, I guess?my next purchase will be new gaskets. ? Do =
I need more fluid in the transmission? ?I still can't getthe bolt out where=
 I could see it's being topped off. ? Hey<br>? Jacksonville guys, any hands=
 on helpwould be greatly appreciated.. ?For example, my wife has two Dr. Ap=
pointments tomorrow. ?While at NAPAI picked up the Haynes Repair Manual For=
 '98 Maxima hoping to get a breakthrough clue about the?mysterious shut off=
 switch.Hertz is getting rich off us. ?Anyway, I'll post this in the Six Pa=
ck also. ?The more the merrier.<br>-------------- next part --------------<=
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sloane &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:im_sl=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: "<a ymailto=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:6=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Subject: [6pack] Fw:? =
Transmission oil and clutch.<br>Message-ID:<br>??? &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]=
.com" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
amprd18.prod.outlook.com">SN1PR18MB0192B37E92DC4E9CDB400A348E720@SN1PR18MB0=
192.namprd18.prod.outlook.com</a>&gt;<br>??? <br>Content-Type: text/plain; =
charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br><br>Hey John,<br><br>It's not the correct fix of =
course, but why don't you try my trick of shimming out the slave cylinder w=
ith two stacks of washers. You need about a half inch of shim, shouldn't ne=
ed longer bolts but maybe. I'm telling you it worked for me for years, unti=
l I had the internal fork issue fixed. As I said before (not trying to be a=
 know-it-all) but there's no way this symptom is related to the oil level. =
The oil doesn't get up to the clutch plate. You can't get it into gear beca=
use it's spinning, not because it's low on oil.<br><br><br>Now, I didn't ha=
ve a broken fork pin, so the shims may not help, but worth a try. You're go=
ing to have to get the tranny pulled to replace that fork pin.? I'm not cer=
tain, but I believe working once, and then back to the same problem, is a b=
ig indication of the fork pin being sheared. It slips back around to the co=
rrect spot and works once, and then it's out of alignment again and doesn't=
 work at all.<br><br><br>The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the=
 Maxima! A Triumph doesn't like being counted on as primary transportation.=
 They can tell. Ever wonder why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' =
to have one?<br><br><br>good luck,<br><br>Sloane :)<br><br><br>____________=
____________________<br>From: 6pack &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:6pack-bounces@=
autox.team.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">6pack-bounces@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of John Summers via 6pack &lt;<a ymailto=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">6pack=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 4:05 AM<br>To: <a =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a><br>Subject: [6pack] Transmission oil and clutch.=
<br><br>There you are you old Six Pack!!<br>.? Took a look at the clutch ma=
ster and I could see dark fluid. So, I guess<br>my next purchase will be ne=
w gaskets.<br>-------------- next part --------------<br>An HTML attachment=
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br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: 3<br>Date: Wed, 11 May 20=
16 08:13:51 -0500<br>From: "dave n" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: &lt;<a=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission o=
il and clutch.<br>Message-ID: &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:F514CB755C814C78A776=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:F514CB755C814C78A77665D4D41613E5=
@Ranteer.local">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>C=
ontent-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>fyi ? if a transmission i=
s essentially out of oil, it won?t shift.? ask me how I know.<br><br>From: =
im sloane via 6pack <br>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 7:16 AM<br>To: <a yma=
ilto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">6=
[email-masked]</a> <br>Subject: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutc=
h.<br><br>Hey John,<br><br>It's not the correct fix of course, but why don'=
t you try my trick of shimming out the slave cylinder with two stacks of wa=
shers. You need about a half inch of shim, shouldn't need longer bolts but =
maybe. I'm telling you it worked for me for years, until I had the internal=
 fork issue fixed. As I said before (not trying to be a know-it-all) but th=
ere's no way this symptom is related to the oil level. The oil doesn't get =
up to the clutch plate. You can't get it into gear because it's spinning, n=
ot because it's low on oil. <br><br><br><br>Now, I didn't have a broken for=
k pin, so the shims may not help, but worth a try. You're going to have to =
get the tranny pulled to replace that fork pin.? I'm not certain, but I bel=
ieve working once, and then back to the same problem, is a big indication o=
f the fork pin being sheared. It slips back around to the correct spot and =
works once, and then it's out of alignment again and doesn't work at all. <=
br><br><br><br>The biggest advice I can give you is this. Fix the Maxima! A=
 Triumph doesn't like being counted on as primary transportation. They can =
tell. Ever wonder why everybody you meet at a gas-station 'used' to have on=
e?<br><br><br><br>good luck,<br><br>Sloane :)<br>-------------- next part -=
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0<br>From: im sloane &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: "<a =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>" &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Subjec=
t: Re: [6pack] Fw:? Transmission oil and clutch.<br>Message-ID:<br>??? &lt;=
<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
amprd18.prod.outlook.com" href=3D"mailto:SN1PR18MB01920C9EAEB98507E0697F608=
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[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>??? <br>Conten=
t-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"iso-8859-1"<br><br><br>Understood - and good=
 to know. But just curious. Will it shift OK sometimes, and then refuse to =
go into gear as this symptom sounds to be?<br><br>_________________________=
_______<br>From: 6pack &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
t" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt; on behalf of dave n via 6pack &lt;<a ymailto=3D"mailto:6pack@auto=
x.team.net" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br>Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:13 PM<br>To: <a ymailto=3D"mailto:6pa=
[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a><br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Fw: Transmission oil and clutch.<br><br>fyi -=
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