Subject: [6pack] Pi Saloon upgrading Question

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Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 22:09:46 +0000 (UTC)

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Hello Jonmac.=C2=A0 I dont know much about the saloons, but presume they sh=
ared parts with the TRs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0What did the factory do for brake and =
drivetrain upgrades when they built 170 hp police spec sal=C3=B2ons?=C2=A0 =
=C2=A0Cheers.=C2=A0 Bruce Simms 73 tr6 with hs6 and rest of your list of=C2=
=A0 upgrades

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Hello Jonmac.&nbsp; I dont know much about the saloons, but presume they sh=
ared parts with the TRs.&nbsp; &nbsp;What did the factory do for brake and =
drivetrain upgrades when they built 170 hp police spec sal=C3=B2ons?&nbsp; =
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From: Robert Lang via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2019 11:31:43 +0000 (UTC)

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 Hi - Unless you run your Triumph REALLY HARD, the stock brakes are more th=
an adequate for street duty. Regarding drive train, all these cars were par=
ts shelf engineered, so they probably ran the same gearbox and differential=
 that came in the TR6 from the factory (I verified the case and gears for t=
he saloon are the same as TR6, but some external stuff is slightly differen=
t). Any issues that the initial design didn't address properly can be easil=
y fixed. For example, in braking (the TR6), the factory rear wheel cylinder=
s can be swapped for bigger (.750 is stock, .812 or .875 are swap-in upgrad=
es) and you will get better balance front to rear and better stopping power=
. As with anything, there's a trade off for the upgrade, but it's an easy u=
pgrade and if you know how to drive, a good upgrade. If you don't know how =
to drive, you'll learn about spinning out your TR6. ;-) But the point is, t=
he initial parts on these ares are pretty adequate.

A lot of the perception about reliability of these cars is based on the fal=
se premise of inadequate parts. On the contrary, there are many aspects tha=
t are over-engineered. The reliability issues are more likely due to improp=
er maintenance than anything. I see this all the time.

My opinion is based on 50 years of TR6 ownership and my cars see pretty har=
d use at times.
So, maybe there are magic part numbers out there for the copper cars, but c=
hances are that they just used the next heftier parts on the shelf to creat=
e more over-over-engineered cars.
Regards,Bob Lang

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 Hello Jonmac.=C2=A0 I dont know much about the saloons, but presume they s=
hared parts with the TRs.=C2=A0 =C2=A0What did the factory do for brake and=
 drivetrain upgrades when they built 170 hp police spec sal=C3=B2ons?=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0Cheers.=C2=A0 Bruce Simms 73 tr6 with hs6 and rest of your list of=
=C2=A0 upgrades

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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpf95cc3f3yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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ly:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" dir=3D"ltr=
" data-setdir=3D"false"><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi - Unless =
you run your Triumph REALLY HARD, the stock brakes are more than adequate f=
or street duty. Regarding drive train, all these cars were parts shelf engi=
neered, so they probably ran the same gearbox and differential that came in=
 the TR6 from the factory (I verified the case and gears for the saloon are=
 the same as TR6, but some external stuff is slightly different). Any issue=
s that the initial design didn't address properly can be easily fixed. For =
example, in braking (the TR6), the factory rear wheel cylinders can be swap=
ped for bigger (.750 is stock, .812 or .875 are swap-in upgrades) and you w=
ill get better balance front to rear and better stopping power. As with any=
thing, there's a trade off for the upgrade, but it's an easy upgrade and if=
 you know how to drive, a good upgrade. If you don't know how to drive, you=
'll learn about spinning out your TR6. ;-) But the point is, the initial pa=
rts on these ares are pretty adequate.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">A lot of the p=
erception about reliability of these cars is based on the false premise of =
inadequate parts. On the contrary, there are many aspects that are over-eng=
ineered. The reliability issues are more likely due to improper maintenance=
 than anything. I see this all the time.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-set=
dir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">My opinion i=
s based on 50 years of TR6 ownership and my cars see pretty hard use at tim=
es.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
data-setdir=3D"false">So, maybe there are magic part numbers out there for =
the copper cars, but chances are that they just used the next heftier parts=
 on the shelf to create more over-over-engineered cars.</div><div dir=3D"lt=
r" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">R=
egards,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bob Lang<br></div><div>=
<br></div>
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he TRs.&nbsp; &nbsp;What did the factory do for brake and drivetrain upgrad=
es when they built 170 hp police spec sal=C3=B2ons?&nbsp; &nbsp;Cheers.&nbs=
p; Bruce Simms 73 tr6 with hs6 and rest of your list of&nbsp; upgrades<br><=
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