Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

From: James_ via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:10:11 +0000

Hinge toward passenger. 
Opening conveniently accessed by driver.

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 8:50 AM, Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Hello friends, 
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
> 
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
> 
>    Thanks in advance of your reply.
> 
> Rick
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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 11:25:16 -0600

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   Thanks everyone. Mine will now go on opening toward the driver side,
hinge toward the passenger side.

Rick

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From: DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 22:34:25 +0000 (UTC)

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 It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler =
and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.=C2=A0 If you=
 wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.=C2=A0=
 On my car it is hinged on the right.
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Dave=20

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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: TR6 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Hello friends,=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0If you've followed any of the work on my '=
75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probab=
ly irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:
When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hi=
nge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks in advance of your reply.
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<div> <font size="3">It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.&nbsp; If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.&nbsp; On my car it is hinged on the right.</font><br>
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<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: TR6 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am<br>
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div>Hello friends,&nbsp;
<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:</div>

<div><br>
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<div>When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?</div>

<div><br>
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<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;Thanks in advance of your reply.</div>

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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 17:55:15 -0600

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On my 1975 car, the tank vent is on the tank. The vent port ofn the filler
casting is not drilled.

On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 4:34 PM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler
> and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish
> to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car
> it is hinged on the right.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you
> will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask
> anyway, for your sage advice:
>
> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation?
> Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
>

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>On my 1975 car, the tank vent is on the tank. The ve=
nt port ofn the filler casting is not drilled.<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_q=
uote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 4:34 PM DA=
VID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">It&#39;s not that trivial since the tank vent nipple=
 is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing th=
e vent tubes.=C2=A0 If you wish to avoid that step check where it was befor=
e and go from there.=C2=A0 On my car it is hinged on the right.</font><br>
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Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am<br>
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div>Hello friends,=C2=A0
<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0If you&#39;ve followed any of the work on my &#39;75 US s=
pecification TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irre=
levant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:</div>

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<div>When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientatio=
n? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?</div>

<div><br>
</div>

<div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks in advance of your reply.</div>

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On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved=
 around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all=
?=20
I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right t=
he cap opens is immaterial.=20
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> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
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> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler a=
nd spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish t=
o avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car it=
 is hinged on the right.
> Hello friends,=20
>    If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you w=
ill know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyw=
ay, for your sage advice:
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> When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? H=
inge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?
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<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div></div><div>On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all?&nbsp;</div><div>I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;</div><div>Dick&nbsp;</div><div><br>On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &lt;<a href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
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<div> <font size="3">It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.&nbsp; If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.&nbsp; On my car it is hinged on the right.</font><br>
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From: DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 02:37:32 +0000 (UTC)

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 That's different than on my 71 which has two tank vents and a vent on the =
filler neck.=C2=A0 Interesting.
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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: TR6 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 5:55 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my 1975 car, the tank vent is on the tank. The vent port ofn the filler =
casting is not drilled.

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To: TR6 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
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<div style="color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size="3">That's different than on my 71 which has two tank vents and a vent on the filler neck.&nbsp; Interesting.</font><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: TR6 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 5:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div>On my 1975 car, the tank vent is on the tank. The vent port ofn the filler casting is not drilled.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv4428837229gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Nov 3, 2019, 4:34 PM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__78d069ca-c991-4eaf-8765-ebd918f9993c__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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<div> <font size="3">It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.&nbsp; If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.&nbsp; On my car it is hinged on the right.</font><br clear="none">
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From: DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>
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 No, not all.=C2=A0 The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the c=
ap.=C2=A0 Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changin=
g the plumbing.=C2=A0 I thought they were all that way.
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t>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be move=
d around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they a=
ll?=C2=A0I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left =
or right the cap opens is immaterial.=C2=A0Dick=C2=A0
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]> w=
rote:

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To: TR6 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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<div> <font size=3D"3">No, not all.&nbsp; The 71 has a port in the filler t=
ube connected to the cap.&nbsp; Rotating the cap will reposition that tap a=
nd necessitate changing the plumbing.&nbsp; I thought they were all that wa=
y.</font><br>
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Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div>On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be=
 moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't t=
hey all?&nbsp;</div>

<div>I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or r=
ight the cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;</div>

<div>Dick&nbsp;</div>

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<div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack =
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From: Richard via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Sun, 3 Nov 2019 19:39:09 -0800

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Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trun=
k area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...
Dick

> On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
>=20
> No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  R=
otating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbi=
ng.  I thought they were all that way.
> Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]=
et>
> On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be mov=
ed around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they a=
ll?=20
> I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right=
 the cap opens is immaterial.=20
> Dick=20
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>> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>=
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>>=20
>> It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler=
 and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish=
 to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car i=
t is hinged on the right.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div></div><div>Does this vent placing in t=
he filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also me=
an fumes could creep into the car's interior...</div><div>Dick</div><div><br=
>On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@=
cs.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"c=
ite"><div>
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<div> <font size=3D"3">No, not all.&nbsp; The 71 has a port in the filler tu=
be connected to the cap.&nbsp; Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and=
 necessitate changing the plumbing.&nbsp; I thought they were all that way.<=
/font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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<div> <br>
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From: Richard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">taylorturbo6@yah=
oo.com</a>&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">richard=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
<br>

<div>On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be m=
oved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they=
 all?&nbsp;</div>

<div>I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or ri=
ght the cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;</div>

<div>Dick&nbsp;</div>

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<div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &=
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<div>

<div> <font size=3D"3">It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is m=
ounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent=
 tubes.&nbsp; If you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and g=
o from there.&nbsp; On my car it is hinged on the right.</font><br clear=3D"=
none">
</div>

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<br clear=3D"none">

<div>&nbsp; &nbsp;If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specificat=
ion TR6 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...b=
ut I ask anyway, for your sage advice:</div>

<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div>When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation=
? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?</div>

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 If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.=C2=A0 On my car there is=
 a four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank=
 to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn =
connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.
But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.
=20
Dave=20

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To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
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t>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the tru=
nk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...=
Dick
On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

=20
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Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
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<div> <font size="3">If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.&nbsp; On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.</font><br>
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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Richard &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
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Cc: richardolindsay &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div>Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...</div>

<div>Dick</div>

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<div><br clear="none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__fad431e1-22b1-4a09-84bf-5532c2829fff__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>
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<div> <font size="3">No, not all.&nbsp; The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.&nbsp; Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumbing.&nbsp; I thought they were all that way.</font><br clear="none">
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<div>On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all?&nbsp;</div>

<div>I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;</div>

<div>Dick&nbsp;</div>

<div class="yiv2885904057yqt8607026076" id="yiv2885904057yqt64369">

<div><br clear="none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>

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From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 06:50:49 -0600

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Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the
changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is,
or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine
compartment.

Rick

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a
> four-way T that connects this port and the ports at each end of the tank to
> a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in turn
> Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <
> [email-masked]>
> Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the
> trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's
> interior...
> Dick
>
> No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.
> Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the
> plumbing.  I thought they were all that way.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <
> [email-masked]>
> On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be
> moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't
> they all?
> I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right
> the cap opens is immaterial.
> Dick
>
> On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>
> wrote:
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all s=
urprised by the changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, t=
he tank vent is, or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in t=
he engine compartment.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Rick</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1mas=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding=
-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.=C2=
=A0 On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port and the ports a=
t each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the t=
runk which is in turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.=
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">But it looks like they changed the configuration over=
 the years.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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</div>

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</div>

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Richard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blan=
k" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferre=
r">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"m_-3735408172686422715yiv2885904057">
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<div></div>

<div>Does this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into th=
e trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car&#39;s in=
terior...</div>

<div>Dick</div>

<div id=3D"m_-3735408172686422715yiv2885904057yqt45614">
<div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=
=3D"noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div>

<div> <font size=3D"3">No, not all.=C2=A0 The 71 has a port in the filler t=
ube connected to the cap.=C2=A0 Rotating the cap will reposition that tap a=
nd necessitate changing the plumbing.=C2=A0 I thought they were all that wa=
y.</font><br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>

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Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Richard &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rec=
t">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noref=
errer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"n=
one">
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div id=3D"m_-3735408172686422715yiv2885904057">

<div>

<div></div>

<div>On my fuel cap, it&#39;s neck that goes down into the clamped hose, ca=
n be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren=
&#39;t they all?=C2=A0</div>

<div>I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or r=
ight the cap opens is immaterial.=C2=A0</div>

<div>Dick=C2=A0</div>

<div id=3D"m_-3735408172686422715yiv2885904057yqt64369">

<div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack =
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&=
gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

<div>

<div> <font size=3D"3">It&#39;s not that trivial since the tank vent nipple=
 is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing th=
e vent tubes.=C2=A0 If you wish to avoid that step check where it was befor=
e and go from there.=C2=A0 On my car it is hinged on the right.</font><br c=
lear=3D"none">
</div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>

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"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: TR6 &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked].=
net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

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 I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I have forgotten it all.=
=C2=A0 But, perhaps they figured out the earlier systems were overkill and =
the bean counters insisted on cost reductions.
I don't know about your part of the country but here, nobody is looking ove=
r my shoulder so if it ain't up to snuff it's no big deal.
Cheers
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: taylorturbo6 <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the ch=
anges given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is, o=
r was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine compartm=
ent.
Rick
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

=20
=20
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To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]=
t>

=20
=20
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To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
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t>

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: TR6 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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<div> <font size="3">I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I have forgotten it all.&nbsp; But, perhaps they figured out the earlier systems were overkill and the bean counters insisted on cost reductions.</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3">I don't know about your part of the country but here, nobody is looking over my shoulder so if it ain't up to snuff it's no big deal.</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3">Cheers</font></div>

<div><font size="3"></font><br>
</div>

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<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Richard Lindsay &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: taylorturbo6 &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
<br>

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<div>Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by the changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent is, or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine compartment.
<div><br clear="none"></div>

<div>Rick</div>
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<div class="yiv1042107056gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__b703943d-c647-4f88-b36f-003ffd25b428__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"></div>
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</font></div>

<div><font size="3">But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.</font><br clear="none">
</div>

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From: Richard &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__b703943d-c647-4f88-b36f-003ffd25b428__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__b703943d-c647-4f88-b36f-003ffd25b428__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__b703943d-c647-4f88-b36f-003ffd25b428__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__b703943d-c647-4f88-b36f-003ffd25b428__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm<br clear="none">
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<div>Dick</div>

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<div><br clear="none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div>

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To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm<br clear="none">
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Same here, Dave. We do have safety and emissions testing on newer cars here
in Texas, and a passed test verification is required for the annual license
renewal (about $75). Front license plates are required too but the law is
typically ignored, especially for sports cars. All cars 25 years and older
are not required to be emissions tested and if one chooses 'antique',
'classic', vanity plates, only the rear plate is required. Those specialty
plates have a five year renewal, rather than annual, at only a slightly
higher cost.

Rick

On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:59 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

> I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I have forgotten it all.
> But, perhaps they figured out the earlier systems were overkill and the
> bean counters insisted on cost reductions.
>
> I don't know about your part of the country but here, nobody is looking
> over my shoulder so if it ain't up to snuff it's no big deal.
>
> Cheers
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>

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<div dir=3D"auto">Same here, Dave. We do have safety and emissions testing =
on newer cars here in Texas, and a passed test verification is required for=
 the annual license renewal (about $75). Front license plates are required =
too but the law is typically ignored, especially for sports cars. All cars =
25 years and older are not required to be emissions tested and if one choos=
es &#39;antique&#39;, &#39;classic&#39;, vanity plates, only the rear plate=
 is required. Those specialty plates have a five year renewal, rather than =
annual, at only a slightly higher cost.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Rick</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" c=
lass=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:59 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">
<div> <font size=3D"3">I used to be up to speed on all the changes but I ha=
ve forgotten it all.=C2=A0 But, perhaps they figured out the earlier system=
s were overkill and the bean counters insisted on cost reductions.</font></=
div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I don&#39;t know about your part of the country but h=
ere, nobody is looking over my shoulder so if it ain&#39;t up to snuff it&#=
39;s no big deal.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">Cheers</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"></font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

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From: Richard Lindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank=
" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>
Cc: taylorturbo6 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_b=
lank" rel=3D"noreferrer">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">6pack=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div>Dave, this is just part of the fun! And I am not at all surprised by t=
he changes given that this is an emissions issue. On my car, the tank vent =
is, or was plumbed via another pipe, to a carbon canister in the engine com=
partment.
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<div>Rick</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:19 AM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
opener noreferrer noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wro=
te:<br clear=3D"none"></div>
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<div><font size=3D"3">But it looks like they changed the configuration over=
 the years.</font><br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Dick</div>

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<div><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<b=
r clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div>

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From: Richard &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">taylorturbo=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">dave1mas=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect">richa=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shap=
e=3D"rect">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>Rick</div>

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 13:38:46 -0000

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Dave Massey wrote:

>If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.  On my car there is a fo=
ur-way T that connects this port >and the ports at each end of the tank to =
a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in >turn con=
nected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.

>>>>>But it looks like they changed the configuration over the years.

My response really concentrates on Dave=E2=80=99s last sentence and at the =
risk of a little verbosity (intended to clarify) this is how it often was f=
or North American spec cars built outside the US and classified as imports.=

Let=E2=80=99s take for example a car that would be the current model on 1st=
 Jan 1970 and on sale in the destination market as at that date.

The Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards (or whatever it called itsel=
f in the days before the internet or mobile phones/faxes and when we still =
used carbon paper) would give overseas manufacturers selling cars in the US=
, an outline of the *likely* changes that would be current for the next mod=
el year. This info was usually made available to us by end January 1969 wit=
h the rider that they would not be final until authorised by the FBVSS in l=
ate June/early July 1969.

So the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the ne=
xt sales year with all the modifications the anticipated legislation would =
require =E2=80=93 including the wording, font size, whatever of sticky labe=
ls to be placed wherever. There was something of a frenzy is the emission r=
egs for California** were due to be tightened up even further and everyone =
crossed their legs and fingers that the current engine range would meet req=
uirements.

At mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometimes, they del=
eted a requirement =E2=80=93 and sometimes pitched in a =E2=80=98naughty=E2=
=80=99 they hadn=E2=80=99t indicated earlier. Mixed sighs of relief and =E2=
=80=9Coh s**t=E2=80=9D moments.

Five models of each car are built to the 1970 spec and shipped (often airfr=
eighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation and rubber-stamping so that the=
 models can be sold next year. By now, we=E2=80=99re mid to end August 1969=
=2E If everything is OK=E2=80=99d or nodded through, everything goes beserk=
 in Coventry to build and ship the cars required to be in the US for Jan 1,=
 1970. Usually, the quantities were to meet a six week stock depth across t=
he US and to achieve this, often meant vehicle to all other world markets s=
topped. Then when it re-commenced, there were all the other changes those o=
ther 150 odd world markets wanted included as well. Then, for good measure,=
 a few wildcards might get thrown in the works like a supplier strike or do=
ck workers strike and everything stopped. Then flat out again to clear the =
backlog.

I was having an informal chat some years ago with the late Mike Cook about =
this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that Detroit always got preferentia=
l treatment by receiving outline and confirmed specs for the next model yea=
r a good six months earlier than everyone else =E2=80=93 i.e. the imported =
stuff. Good capitalist protectionism=F0=9F=98=8A 

To make matters worse, the standards for Detroit product and Joe Soap=E2=80=
=99s imported product were nearly always different inasmuch as the imports =
had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of what they were (i.e. we were=
 expected to do more than Detroit) and six months less time in which to do =
it. Frankly, I think it=E2=80=99s amazing we ever sold anything at all and =
of all the European manufacturers who moaned and bellyached about the extra=
 work, Volkswagen were the worst by far.

Jonmac

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Dick

[email-masked]> > wrote:

No, not all.  The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.  R=
otating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing the plumb=
ing.  I thought they were all that way.

Dave 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

ll? 

I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right =
the cap opens is immaterial. 

Dick 

On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked] <m=
ailto:[email-masked]> > wrote:

It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler a=
nd spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.  If you wish =
to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.  On my car =
it is hinged on the right.

Dave 

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eam.net> >

Hello friends,  

   If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you wi=
ll know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyw=
ay, for your sage advice:

Rick

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l><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Dave Mass=
ey wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>&gt;<span style=3D'color:black'>If=
 the tube were not connected to that port, yes.&nbsp; On my car there is a =
four-way T that connects this port </span>&gt;<span style=3D'color:black'>a=
nd the ports at each end of the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor sepa=
rator in the trunk which is in </span>&gt;<span style=3D'color:black'>turn =
connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister.<o:p></o:p></span></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial=
",sans-serif'>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<span style=3D'color:black'>But it looks =
like they changed the configuration over the years.</span><o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span s=
tyle=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p><=
/span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=
=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>My response really con=
centrates on Dave=E2=80=99s last sentence and at the risk of a little verbo=
sity (intended to clarify) this is how it often was for North American spec=
 cars built outside the US and classified as imports.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-siz=
e:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>Let=E2=80=99s take for example a c=
ar that would be the current model on 1<sup>st</sup> Jan 1970 and on sale i=
n the destination market as at that date.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;fon=
t-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>The Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards=
 (or whatever it called itself in the days before the internet or mobile ph=
ones/faxes and when we still used carbon paper) would give overseas manufac=
turers selling cars in the US, an outline of the *<b>likely</b>* changes th=
at would be current for the next model year. This info was usually made ava=
ilable to us by <b>end January 1969</b> with the rider that they would not =
be final until authorised by the FBVSS in <b>late June/early July 1969</b>.=
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><=
span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>So the vehic=
le manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the next sales yea=
r with all the modifications the anticipated legislation would require =E2=
=80=93 including the wording, font size, whatever of sticky labels to be pl=
aced wherever. There was something of a frenzy is the emission regs for Cal=
ifornia** were due to be tightened up even further and everyone crossed the=
ir legs and fingers that the current engine range would meet requirements.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>At mid-summer=
 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometimes, they deleted a requir=
ement =E2=80=93 and sometimes pitched in a =E2=80=98naughty=E2=80=99 they h=
adn=E2=80=99t indicated earlier. Mixed sighs of relief and =E2=80=9Coh s**t=
=E2=80=9D moments.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margi=
n-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-s=
erif'>Five models of each car are built to the 1970 spec and shipped (often=
 airfreighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation and rubber-stamping so th=
at the models can be sold next year. By now, we=E2=80=99re <b>mid to end Au=
gust 1969</b>. If everything is OK=E2=80=99d or nodded through, everything =
goes beserk in Coventry to build and ship the cars required to be in the US=
 for <b>Jan 1, 1970</b>. Usually, the quantities were to meet a six week st=
ock depth across the US and to achieve this, often meant vehicle to all oth=
er world markets stopped. Then when it re-commenced, there were all the oth=
er changes those other 150 odd world markets wanted included as well. Then,=
 for good measure, a few wildcards might get thrown in the works like a sup=
plier strike or dock workers strike and everything stopped. Then flat out a=
gain to clear the backlog.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Aria=
l",sans-serif'>I was having an informal chat some years ago with the late M=
ike Cook about this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that Detroit always =
got preferential treatment by receiving outline and confirmed specs for the=
 next model year a good six months <b><u>earlier</u></b> than everyone else=
 =E2=80=93 i.e. the imported stuff. Good capitalist protectionism</span><sp=
an style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>&#128=
522;</span><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>=
 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>=
<span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>To make mat=
ters worse, the standards for Detroit product and Joe Soap=E2=80=99s import=
ed product were nearly always different inasmuch as the imports had a harde=
r job to meet the specs in terms of what they were (i.e. we were expected t=
o do more than Detroit) and six months less time in which to do it. Frankly=
, I think it=E2=80=99s amazing we ever sold anything at all and of all the =
European manufacturers who moaned and bellyached about the extra work, Volk=
swagen were the worst by far.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal sty=
le=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Ar=
ial",sans-serif'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",s=
ans-serif'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin=
-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif;color:black'> </span><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial=
",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNo=
rmal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:b=
lack'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nb=
sp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:=
12.0pt'><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;colo=
r:black'>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Richard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc:=
 richardolindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">richardol=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm<br>Subject:=
 Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv2885=
904057><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Does this vent placing in the filler=
 neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean fumes=
 could creep into the car's interior...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-=
serif;color:black'>Dick<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv2885904057y=
qt45614><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span styl=
e=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>On No=
v 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote=
 style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;col=
or:black'>No, not all.&nbsp; The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected=
 to the cap.&nbsp; Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitat=
e changing the plumbing.&nbsp; I thought they were all that way.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'=
font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave </span><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Mess=
age-----<br>From: Richard &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tay=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6=
pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br>Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler or=
ientation<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv2885904057><div><div><p class=
=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif=
;color:black'>On my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hos=
e, can be moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank.=
 Aren't they all?&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNorma=
l><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:blac=
k'>I gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or rig=
ht the cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-se=
rif;color:black'>Dick&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv2885904=
057yqt64369><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br>O=
n Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pa=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p=
></div><blockquote style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Ari=
al",sans-serif;color:black'>It's not that trivial since the tank vent nippl=
e is mounted to the filler and spinning it around will require replumbing t=
he vent tubes.&nbsp; If you wish to avoid that step check where it was befo=
re and go from there.&nbsp; On my car it is hinged on the right.<o:p></o:p>=
</span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;=
font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'=
font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dave </span><s=
pan style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><=
o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-si=
ze:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></sp=
an></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font=
-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style=3D'font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>-----Original Mess=
age-----<br>From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:6pack@aut=
ox.team.net">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: TR6 &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 201=
9 10:50 am<br>Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p=
><div id=3Dyiv2885904057><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hello friends,&nbsp; <o=
:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0=
pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nbsp; &nbsp;If you've follo=
wed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will know that the f=
ollowing question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage =
advice:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D=
'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p>&nbsp;</=
o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>When reinstalling the fuel =
filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. =
Or rear? Or to one side or another?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p clas=
s=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-seri=
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<span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'=
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From: Bob via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 08:50:40 -0500

Not sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from 
driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side. 
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I 
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.

Bob

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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 14:42:39 +0000 (UTC)

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 Here in Missouri we had a State Senator, Bud Barnes, who was an old car ad=
vocate and our antique car requirements are quite receptive to the hobby.=
=C2=A0 Antique plates are good forever (no renewal required) and we are all=
owed up to 2000 miles of personal use in addition to mileage to and from of=
ficial events such as parades and car shows.=C2=A0 That is rarely enforced =
and as one police officer who was a member of our local club said "The majo=
r concern of violating this rule is from your insurance company."
Modern cars are subject to a biannual safety inspection and an EECIV scan w=
hich will report any non-compliance with emissions.
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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: taylorturbo6 <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:32 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Same here, Dave. We do have safety and emissions testing on newer cars here=
 in Texas, and a passed test verification is required for the annual licens=
e renewal (about $75). Front license plates are required too but the law is=
 typically ignored, especially for sports cars. All cars 25 years and older=
 are not required to be emissions tested and if one chooses 'antique', 'cla=
ssic', vanity plates, only the rear plate is required. Those specialty plat=
es have a five year renewal, rather than annual, at only a slightly higher =
cost.
Rick
On Mon, Nov 4, 2019, 6:59 AM DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:

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From: Richard Lindsay <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: taylorturbo6 <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 6:51 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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From: Richard <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]=
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From: Richard <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]=
t>

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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: TR6 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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<div>Same here, Dave. We do have safety and emissions testing on newer cars here in Texas, and a passed test verification is required for the annual license renewal (about $75). Front license plates are required too but the law is typically ignored, especially for sports cars. All cars 25 years and older are not required to be emissions tested and if one chooses 'antique', 'classic', vanity plates, only the rear plate is required. Those specialty plates have a five year renewal, rather than annual, at only a slightly higher cost.
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From: Richard Lindsay &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__5b326f16-9d60-40ab-8ee5-02a9004dc416__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__5b326f16-9d60-40ab-8ee5-02a9004dc416__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
Cc: taylorturbo6 &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__5b326f16-9d60-40ab-8ee5-02a9004dc416__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:[email-masked]" target="_blank" removedlink__5b326f16-9d60-40ab-8ee5-02a9004dc416__href="mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear="none">
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From: DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 14:53:11 +0000 (UTC)

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 Thank you, John, for putting this into perspective.=C2=A0 We often forget =
what shackles were constraining the engineers.=C2=A0 They did an admirable =
job considering the cost constraints and the limits of technology at the ti=
me.
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-----Original Message-----
From: John Macartney <[email-masked]>
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <[email-masked]>; taylorturbo6 <[email-masked]=
om>
Cc: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:38 am
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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21561258 div.yiv9921561258WordSection1 {} #yiv9921561258 Dave Massey wrote:=
>If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.=C2=A0 On my car there is=
 a four-way T that connects this port >and the ports at each end of the tan=
k to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in >tur=
n connected to a tube leading to the charcoal canister. =C2=A0>>>>>But it l=
ooks like they changed the configuration over the years. =C2=A0My response =
really concentrates on Dave=E2=80=99s last sentence and at the risk of a li=
ttle verbosity (intended to clarify) this is how it often was for North Ame=
rican spec cars built outside the US and classified as imports.Let=E2=80=99=
s take for example a car that would be the current model on 1st Jan 1970 an=
d on sale in the destination market as at that date.The Federal Bureau of V=
ehicle Safety Standards (or whatever it called itself in the days before th=
e internet or mobile phones/faxes and when we still used carbon paper) woul=
d give overseas manufacturers selling cars in the US, an outline of the *li=
kely* changes that would be current for the next model year. This info was =
usually made available to us by end January 1969 with the rider that they w=
ould not be final until authorised by the FBVSS in late June/early July 196=
9.So the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the =
next sales year with all the modifications the anticipated legislation woul=
d require =E2=80=93 including the wording, font size, whatever of sticky la=
bels to be placed wherever. There was something of a frenzy is the emission=
 regs for California** were due to be tightened up even further and everyon=
e crossed their legs and fingers that the current engine range would meet r=
equirements.At mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometim=
es, they deleted a requirement =E2=80=93 and sometimes pitched in a =E2=80=
=98naughty=E2=80=99 they hadn=E2=80=99t indicated earlier. Mixed sighs of r=
elief and =E2=80=9Coh s**t=E2=80=9D moments.Five models of each car are bui=
lt to the 1970 spec and shipped (often airfreighted) to the States for FBVS=
S evaluation and rubber-stamping so that the models can be sold next year. =
By now, we=E2=80=99re mid to end August 1969. If everything is OK=E2=80=99d=
 or nodded through, everything goes beserk in Coventry to build and ship th=
e cars required to be in the US for Jan 1, 1970. Usually, the quantities we=
re to meet a six week stock depth across the US and to achieve this, often =
meant vehicle to all other world markets stopped. Then when it re-commenced=
, there were all the other changes those other 150 odd world markets wanted=
 included as well. Then, for good measure, a few wildcards might get thrown=
 in the works like a supplier strike or dock workers strike and everything =
stopped. Then flat out again to clear the backlog.I was having an informal =
chat some years ago with the late Mike Cook about this whole shenanigans an=
d he confirmed that Detroit always got preferential treatment by receiving =
outline and confirmed specs for the next model year a good six months earli=
er than everyone else =E2=80=93 i.e. the imported stuff. Good capitalist pr=
otectionism=F0=9F=98=8A To make matters worse, the standards for Detroit pr=
oduct and Joe Soap=E2=80=99s imported product were nearly always different =
inasmuch as the imports had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of what=
 they were (i.e. we were expected to do more than Detroit) and six months l=
ess time in which to do it. Frankly, I think it=E2=80=99s amazing we ever s=
old anything at all and of all the European manufacturers who moaned and be=
llyached about the extra work, Volkswagen were the worst by far. =C2=A0Jonm=
ac  =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]=
t>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientationDoes this vent placing in the f=
iller neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk area? Which would also mean =
fumes could creep into the car's interior...Dick
On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> wrote:
No, not all.=C2=A0 The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the ca=
p.=C2=A0 Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing=
 the plumbing.=C2=A0 I thought they were all that way. =C2=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =
=C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: Richard <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: richardolindsay <[email-masked]>; 6pack <[email-masked]=
t>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientationOn my fuel cap, it's neck that =
goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved around independent of the ven=
t tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all?=C2=A0I gill my tank from st=
anding behind the bumper so which side left or right the cap opens is immat=
erial.=C2=A0Dick=C2=A0
On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
It's not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler a=
nd spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.=C2=A0 If you =
wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.=C2=A0 =
On my car it is hinged on the right. =C2=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original=
 Message-----
From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: TR6 <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am
Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientationHello friends,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0I=
f you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6 you will k=
now that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I ask anyway, =
for your sage advice: =C2=A0When reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is=
 the correct orientation? Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one s=
ide or another? =C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks in advance of your reply. =C2=A0R=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Thank you, John, for putting this into perspective.&=
nbsp; We often forget what shackles were constraining the engineers.&nbsp; =
They did an admirable job considering the cost constraints and the limits o=
f technology at the time.</font><br>
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Original Message-----<br>
From: John Macartney &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; taylorturbo6 &lt;taylorturbo=
[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:38 am<br>
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">Dav=
e Massey wrote:</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&gt=
;<span style=3D"color:black;">If the tube were not connected to that port, =
yes.&nbsp; On my car there is a four-way T that connects this port </span>&=
gt;<span style=3D"color:black;">and the ports at each end of the tank to a =
tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which is in </span>&gt;=
<span style=3D"color:black;">turn connected to a tube leading to the charco=
al canister.</span></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<span style=3D"color:black;">But it looks like they change=
d the configuration over the years.</span></span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">My response really concentrates on Dave=E2=80=
=99s last sentence and at the risk of a little verbosity (intended to clari=
fy) this is how it often was for North American spec cars built outside the=
 US and classified as imports.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Let=E2=80=99s take for example a car that woul=
d be the current model on 1<sup>st</sup> Jan 1970 and on sale in the destin=
ation market as at that date.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">The Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards=
 (or whatever it called itself in the days before the internet or mobile ph=
ones/faxes and when we still used carbon paper) would give overseas manufac=
turers selling cars in the US, an outline of the *<b>likely</b>* changes th=
at would be current for the next model year. This info was usually made ava=
ilable to us by <b>end January 1969</b> with the rider that they would not =
be final until authorised by the FBVSS in <b>late June/early July 1969</b>.=
</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">So the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to=
 build/modify cars for the next sales year with all the modifications the a=
nticipated legislation would require =E2=80=93 including the wording, font =
size, whatever of sticky labels to be placed wherever. There was something =
of a frenzy is the emission regs for California** were due to be tightened =
up even further and everyone crossed their legs and fingers that the curren=
t engine range would meet requirements.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">At mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs =
for 1970. Sometimes, they deleted a requirement =E2=80=93 and sometimes pit=
ched in a =E2=80=98naughty=E2=80=99 they hadn=E2=80=99t indicated earlier. =
Mixed sighs of relief and =E2=80=9Coh s**t=E2=80=9D moments.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Five models of each car are built to the 1970 =
spec and shipped (often airfreighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation an=
d rubber-stamping so that the models can be sold next year. By now, we=E2=
=80=99re <b>mid to end August 1969</b>. If everything is OK=E2=80=99d or no=
dded through, everything goes beserk in Coventry to build and ship the cars=
 required to be in the US for <b>Jan 1, 1970</b>. Usually, the quantities w=
ere to meet a six week stock depth across the US and to achieve this, often=
 meant vehicle to all other world markets stopped. Then when it re-commence=
d, there were all the other changes those other 150 odd world markets wante=
d included as well. Then, for good measure, a few wildcards might get throw=
n in the works like a supplier strike or dock workers strike and everything=
 stopped. Then flat out again to clear the backlog.</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">I was having an informal chat some years ago w=
ith the late Mike Cook about this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that D=
etroit always got preferential treatment by receiving outline and confirmed=
 specs for the next model year a good six months <b><u>earlier</u></b> than=
 everyone else =E2=80=93 i.e. the imported stuff. Good capitalist protectio=
nism</span><span style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">=F0=9F=98=8A</span><span style=
=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"> </span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">To make matters worse, the standards for Detro=
it product and Joe Soap=E2=80=99s imported product were nearly always diffe=
rent inasmuch as the imports had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of=
 what they were (i.e. we were expected to do more than Detroit) and six mon=
ths less time in which to do it. Frankly, I think it=E2=80=99s amazing we e=
ver sold anything at all and of all the European manufacturers who moaned a=
nd bellyached about the extra work, Volkswagen were the worst by far.</span=
></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;"> &nbsp;</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Jonmac</span></div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258yqt1498910431" id=3D"yiv9921561258yqtfd87632">
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">F=
rom: Richard &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:taylorturbo6=
@yahoo.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: DAVID MASS=
EY &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave1m=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
opener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">richardolin=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sen=
t: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel fil=
ler orientation</span></div>
</div>

<div id=3D"yiv9921561258">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258yqt1498910431" id=3D"yiv9921561258yqtfd38227">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Doe=
s this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the trunk =
area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's interior...</s=
pan></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Dic=
k</span></div>
</div>
</div>

<div id=3D"yiv9921561258yqt45614">
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258yqt1498910431" id=3D"yiv9921561258yqtfd65662">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM,=
 DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs.=
com">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258yqt1498910431" id=3D"yiv9921561258yqtfd22366">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">No,=
 not all.&nbsp; The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the cap.&=
nbsp; Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate changing th=
e plumbing.&nbsp; I thought they were all that way.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">=
</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258yqt1498910431" id=3D"yiv9921561258yqtfd79848">
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">F=
rom: Richard &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:taylorturbo6=
@yahoo.com">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: DAVID MASS=
EY &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dave1m=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: richardolindsay &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
opener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
om" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">richardolin=
[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sen=
t: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel fil=
ler orientation</span></div>
</div>

<div id=3D"yiv9921561258">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258yqt1498910431" id=3D"yiv9921561258yqtfd71908">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">On =
my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be moved a=
round independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't they all?=
&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">I g=
ill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right the=
 cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Dic=
k&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div id=3D"yiv9921561258yqt64369">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"><br clear=3D"none">On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM,=
 DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" y=
mailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:6pa=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:</span></div>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">It'=
s not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler and =
spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.&nbsp; If you wis=
h to avoid that step check where it was before and go from there.&nbsp; On =
my car it is hinged on the right.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Dave </span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">=
</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">F=
rom: Richard Lindsay via 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mai=
lto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To=
: TR6 &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:6=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"=
>[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:5=
0 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation</span></div=

<div id=3D"yiv9921561258">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Hel=
lo friends,&nbsp; </span></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp; &nbsp;If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification TR6=
 you will know that the following question is probably irrelevant...but I a=
sk anyway, for your sage advice:</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Whe=
n reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? Hinge=
 side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or another?</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">&nb=
sp; &nbsp;Thanks in advance of your reply.</span></div>
</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9921561258MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">Ric=
k</span></div>
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 15:03:10 +0000 (UTC)

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 There was a Chevy in the mid to late 60's that had the filler in the middl=
e of the rear of the car behind the license plate.=C2=A0 Other than that, A=
merican cars all had the filler on one side or the other and there doesn't =
seem to be a preference one way or the other.=C2=A0 A manufacturer will pro=
duce different model cars with the filler on either side.=C2=A0 It makes fo=
r great fun when pulling into a filling station in the rental car.
I can rotate the TR3 filler to where ever i please but I keep the hing on t=
he left to be consistent with the TR6.=C2=A0 Since I am accustom to this or=
ientation I will keep it as such.
=20
Dave=20

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=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Not sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from=20
driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side.=20
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I=20
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.

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<div> <font size="3">There was a Chevy in the mid to late 60's that had the filler in the middle of the rear of the car behind the license plate.&nbsp; Other than that, American cars all had the filler on one side or the other and there doesn't seem to be a preference one way or the other.&nbsp; A manufacturer will produce different model cars with the filler on either side.&nbsp; It makes for great fun when pulling into a filling station in the rental car.</font></div>

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<div><font size="3">I can rotate the TR3 filler to where ever i please but I keep the hing on the left to be consistent with the TR6.&nbsp; Since I am accustom to this orientation I will keep it as such.</font><br>
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To: 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:50 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Not sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from <br clear="none">driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side. <br clear="none">Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I <br clear="none">guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Bob
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The pleasure is entirely mine =F0=9F=98=8A. I see from the VTR facebook pag=
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ings this year had a wet liner engine. Really? I had two and both had dry l=
iners with a siamesed block between cyls 3 and 4. Also, the car illustrated=
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had long since been discontinued. Maybe a respray? Is it a 1600 or a 2 litr=
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Jonmac

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]> 
Sent: 04 November 2019 14:53
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

Thank you, John, for putting this into perspective.  We often forget what s=
hackles were constraining the engineers.  They did an admirable job conside=
ring the cost constraints and the limits of technology at the time.

Dave 

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To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <[email-masked]>; taylorturbo6 <[email-masked]=
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Jonmac

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Dick

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Dave 

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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The pleasure is entirely mine =
</span><span style=3D'font-family:"Segoe UI =
Emoji",sans-serif;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>&#128522;</span><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>. I see from the VTR facebook page =
today that Shawn Frank has commented a Vitesse (Sports 6) at Dripping =
Springs this year had a wet liner engine. Really? I had two and both had =
dry liners with a siamesed block between cyls 3 and 4. Also, the car =
illustrated is in Lichfield Green yet the car has 2 litre badges on it =
from what I can see. If it is a 2 litre, I doubt it left the factory in =
that colour as it had long since been discontinued. Maybe a respray? Is =
it a 1600 or a 2 litre. Who knows but it may be a bit of a =
=E2=80=98ringer=E2=80=99 for the unwary.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jonmac<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span =
lang=3DEN-US> DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> =
04 November 2019 14:53<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
nk you, John, for putting this into perspective.&nbsp; We often forget =
what shackles were constraining the engineers.&nbsp; They did an =
admirable job considering the cost constraints and the limits of =
technology at the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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e </span><span =
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p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: John Macartney =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>To: 'DAVID MASSEY' =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;; taylorturbo6 =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Cc: 6pack =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:38 =
am<br>Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
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p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;If the tube were not connected to that port, yes.&nbsp; On my car there =
is a four-way T that connects this port &gt;and the ports at each end of =
the tank to a tube that leads to the vapor separator in the trunk which =
is in &gt;turn connected to a tube leading to the charcoal =
canister.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;But it looks like they changed the configuration over =
the years.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>My =
response really concentrates on Dave=E2=80=99s last sentence and at the =
risk of a little verbosity (intended to clarify) this is how it often =
was for North American spec cars built outside the US and classified as =
imports.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Let=
=E2=80=99s take for example a car that would be the current model on =
1<sup>st</sup> Jan 1970 and on sale in the destination market as at that =
date.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 Federal Bureau of Vehicle Safety Standards (or whatever it called =
itself in the days before the internet or mobile phones/faxes and when =
we still used carbon paper) would give overseas manufacturers selling =
cars in the US, an outline of the *<b>likely</b>* changes that would be =
current for the next model year. This info was usually made available to =
us by <b>end January 1969</b> with the rider that they would not be =
final until authorised by the FBVSS in <b>late June/early July =
1969</b>.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>So =
the vehicle manufacturers went balls out to build/modify cars for the =
next sales year with all the modifications the anticipated legislation =
would require =E2=80=93 including the wording, font size, whatever of =
sticky labels to be placed wherever. There was something of a frenzy is =
the emission regs for California** were due to be tightened up even =
further and everyone crossed their legs and fingers that the current =
engine range would meet requirements.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>At =
mid-summer 1969, FBVSS would confirm specs for 1970. Sometimes, they =
deleted a requirement =E2=80=93 and sometimes pitched in a =
=E2=80=98naughty=E2=80=99 they hadn=E2=80=99t indicated earlier. Mixed =
sighs of relief and =E2=80=9Coh s**t=E2=80=9D moments.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fiv=
e models of each car are built to the 1970 spec and shipped (often =
airfreighted) to the States for FBVSS evaluation and rubber-stamping so =
that the models can be sold next year. By now, we=E2=80=99re <b>mid to =
end August 1969</b>. If everything is OK=E2=80=99d or nodded through, =
everything goes beserk in Coventry to build and ship the cars required =
to be in the US for <b>Jan 1, 1970</b>. Usually, the quantities were to =
meet a six week stock depth across the US and to achieve this, often =
meant vehicle to all other world markets stopped. Then when it =
re-commenced, there were all the other changes those other 150 odd world =
markets wanted included as well. Then, for good measure, a few wildcards =
might get thrown in the works like a supplier strike or dock workers =
strike and everything stopped. Then flat out again to clear the =
backlog.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
was having an informal chat some years ago with the late Mike Cook about =
this whole shenanigans and he confirmed that Detroit always got =
preferential treatment by receiving outline and confirmed specs for the =
next model year a good six months <b><u>earlier</u></b> than everyone =
else =E2=80=93 i.e. the imported stuff. Good capitalist =
protectionism</span><span style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Segoe =
UI Emoji",sans-serif;color:black'>&#128522;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>To =
make matters worse, the standards for Detroit product and Joe =
Soap=E2=80=99s imported product were nearly always different inasmuch as =
the imports had a harder job to meet the specs in terms of what they =
were (i.e. we were expected to do more than Detroit) and six months less =
time in which to do it. Frankly, I think it=E2=80=99s amazing we ever =
sold anything at all and of all the European manufacturers who moaned =
and bellyached about the extra work, Volkswagen were the worst by =
far.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Jon=
mac</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd41571><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd87632><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Richard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: richardolindsay =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Nov 3, 2019 =
9:39 pm<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258><div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd38227><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Doe=
s this vent placing in the filler neck let gas fumes escape into the =
trunk area? Which would also mean fumes could creep into the car's =
interior...</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dic=
k</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqt45614><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd65662><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>On Nov 3, 2019, at 6:47 PM, DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd22366><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>No,=
 not all.&nbsp; The 71 has a port in the filler tube connected to the =
cap.&nbsp; Rotating the cap will reposition that tap and necessitate =
changing the plumbing.&nbsp; I thought they were all that =
way.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd79848><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Richard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;<br>To: =
DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;<br>Cc: =
richardolindsay &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;; 6pack =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;<br>Sent: =
Sun, Nov 3, 2019 6:05 pm<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258><div><div =
id=3Dyiv9921561258yqtfd71908><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
my fuel cap, it's neck that goes down into the clamped hose, can be =
moved around independent of the vent tube on the top of the tank. Aren't =
they all?&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
gill my tank from standing behind the bumper so which side left or right =
the cap opens is immaterial.&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dic=
k&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258yqt64369><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>On Nov 3, 2019, at 2:34 PM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt; =
wrote:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>It'=
s not that trivial since the tank vent nipple is mounted to the filler =
and spinning it around will require replumbing the vent tubes.&nbsp; If =
you wish to avoid that step check where it was before and go from =
there.&nbsp; On my car it is hinged on the right.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Richard Lindsay via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;<br>To: TR6 =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>[email-masked]</span></a>&gt;<br>Sent: =
Sun, Nov 3, 2019 10:50 am<br>Subject: [6pack] Fuel filler =
orientation</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div id=3Dyiv9921561258><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hel=
lo friends,&nbsp; </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp; &nbsp;If you've followed any of the work on my '75 US specification =
TR6 you will know that the following question is probably =
irrelevant...but I ask anyway, for your sage advice:</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Whe=
n reinstalling the fuel filler cap, which is the correct orientation? =
Hinge side toward the front. Or rear? Or to one side or =
another?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp; &nbsp;Thanks in advance of your reply.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Ric=
k</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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Date: Mon, 4 Nov 2019 17:50:35 +0000 (UTC)

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 Yeah and if I had thought to look at it BEFORE pulling up to the pump...
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>; Triumph 6 Pack <[email-masked]=
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 9:10 am
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation

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 small pointer on the gas gauge that tells you which side the filler is on.=
  =C2=A0 Stan  =C2=A0 From: 6pack <[email-masked]> On Behalf =
OfDAVID MASSEY via 6pack
Sent: Monday, November 4, 2019 10:03 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation  =C2=A0 There was a Chevy in t=
he mid to late 60's that had the filler in the middle of the rear of the ca=
r behind the license plate.=C2=A0 Other than that, American cars all had th=
e filler on one side or the other and there doesn't seem to be a preference=
 one way or the other.=C2=A0 A manufacturer will produce different model ca=
rs with the filler on either side.=C2=A0 It makes for great fun when pullin=
g into a filling station in the rental car.  =C2=A0 I can rotate the TR3 fi=
ller to where ever i please but I keep the hing on the left to be consisten=
t with the TR6.=C2=A0 Since I am accustom to this orientation I will keep i=
t as such.  =C2=A0 Dave  =C2=A0  =C2=A0 -----Original Message-----
From: Bob via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:50 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation Not sure what is correct for t=
he 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from
driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side.=20
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I=20
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.

Bob =20

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Original Message-----<br>
From: Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; Triumph 6 Pack &lt;6pack@autox=
.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 9:10 am<br>
Subject: RE: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal">All modern cars have a small pointer =
on the gas gauge that tells you which side the filler is on.</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal">Stan</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> 6pack &lt;6pack-bounces@=
autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>DAVID MASSEY via 6pack<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 4, 2019 10:03 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">The=
re was a Chevy in the mid to late 60's that had the filler in the middle of=
 the rear of the car behind the license plate.&nbsp; Other than that, Ameri=
can cars all had
 the filler on one side or the other and there doesn't seem to be a prefere=
nce one way or the other.&nbsp; A manufacturer will produce different model=
 cars with the filler on either side.&nbsp; It makes for great fun when pul=
ling into a filling station in the rental
 car.</span></div>
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<div>

<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;">I c=
an rotate the TR3 filler to where ever i please but I keep the hing on the =
left to be consistent with the TR6.&nbsp; Since I am accustom to this orien=
tation I will
 keep it as such.</span></div>
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<div>

<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;">Dave
</span><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"></span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv8459384804MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;"> &n=
bsp;</span></div>
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 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">-----Original Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Bob via 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymail=
to=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__a054b55f-=
b89a-419f-9697-84a67aaf948e__href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">6pack@aut=
ox.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" removedlink__a054b55f-b89a-419f-=
9697-84a67aaf948e__href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Mon, Nov 4, 2019 7:50 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [6pack] Fuel filler orientation</span></div>
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 sure what is correct for the 6 but my 3, 4 and 6 all open from
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driver side to passenger. I am used to filling up from the drivers side. <b=
r clear=3D"none">
Funny thing is my truck and wifes car also fill from the drivers side. I <b=
r clear=3D"none">
guess I just like to make life a bit simpler.<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Bob </span></div>
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   Thanks everyone for the advice and an interesting thread.

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