Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

From: Yahoo via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 04:12:09 +0000 (UTC)

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An old topic,=C2=A0 but came up recently from the mgb side of my club=C2=A0=
 =C2=A0 =C2=A0john twist of university motors has a video cautioning folks =
with this mod on their b to check the bolts on their conversion brackets.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I checked this on my 6 and all 4 bolts were nicely tight after=
 many years. Also, no frame cracking that I could see.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 After s=
ome of the horror storis about this conversion,=C2=A0 =C2=A0I might not do =
it again=C2=A0Cheers=C2=A0 =C2=A0bruce simms

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An old topic,&nbsp; but came up recently from the mgb side of my club&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;john twist of university motors has a video cautioning folks with this mod on their b to check the bolts on their conversion brackets.&nbsp; &nbsp;I checked this on my 6 and all 4 bolts were nicely tight after many years. Also, no frame cracking that I could see.&nbsp; &nbsp; After some of the horror storis about this conversion,&nbsp; &nbsp;I might not do it again&nbsp;<div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_1589170186222">Cheers&nbsp; &nbsp;bruce simms<br><br><div id="ymail_android_signature"><a id="ymail_android_signature_link" href="https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&amp;c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=ym&amp;af_sub1=Internal&amp;af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=EmailSignature">Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</a></div></div>
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From: DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 12:23:03 +0000 (UTC)

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 There are several tube shock conversion kits out there and there are sever=
al significant differences.=C2=A0 I know of three styles:
#1 A simple bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well.=C2=A0 This one is =
evil.=C2=A0 This kit transfers all the shock loading to the bodywork which =
was not designed to this and will suffer for it.=C2=A0 Avoid at all costs.
#2 Multi-piece.=C2=A0 This has a series of three brackets on each side.=C2=
=A0 There is a bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well as in the on abo=
ve but it also bolts up to another bracket in the recess by the gas tank wh=
ich mounts up to yet another bracket that bolts up to the mount for the lev=
er shock.=C2=A0 This kit transfers the shock loading to the frame point tha=
t was designed for it.=C2=A0 The down side is there are six pieces requirin=
g 16 new holes in the bodywork and the brackets are bulky.=C2=A0 I removed =
mine after I found the tire on one side was rubbing against the bracket in =
the wheel well.
#3 single bracket direct to the frame.=C2=A0 This part is unique in its app=
earance in that it has a serpentine shape, mounts to the frame where the le=
ver shock mounts and reaches up to accept the top of the shock.=C2=A0 It ha=
s been said that this bracket will crack the frame since it has a long leve=
r arm and could apply additional torque to the mount.=C2=A0 But a quick vec=
tor analysis indicates that the forces are parallel to the long axis of the=
 bracket and the loading on the frame will be not significantly different t=
hat those applied by the original lever shock.=C2=A0 The TR6 frame is infam=
ous for having weak spots but the shock mount is not one of them.=C2=A0 The=
 differential mount certainly is and 40 year old frames tend to experience =
cracking regardless of what shock system is used.
I've used #2 and #3 and, more recently, switched back to lever shocks re-va=
lved by World Wide Auto Parts and find this a good solution for street use.=
=C2=A0 I suppose I could have tried a series of telescopic shocks with #3 b=
ut having other irons in the fire I did not pursue that approach.=20

Dave=20

=20
=20
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From: Yahoo via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, May 10, 2020 11:12 pm
Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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<div style="color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size="3">There are several tube shock conversion kits out there and there are several significant differences.&nbsp; I know of three styles:</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3">#1 A simple bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well.&nbsp; This one is evil.&nbsp; This kit transfers all the shock loading to the bodywork which was not designed to this and will suffer for it.&nbsp; Avoid at all costs.</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3">#2 Multi-piece.&nbsp; This has a series of three brackets on each side.&nbsp; There is a bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well as in the on above but it also bolts up to another bracket in the recess by the gas tank which mounts up to yet another bracket that bolts up to the mount for the lever shock.&nbsp; This kit transfers the shock loading to the frame point that was designed for it.&nbsp; The down side is there are six pieces requiring 16 new holes in the bodywork and the brackets are bulky.&nbsp; I removed mine after I found the tire on one side was rubbing against the bracket in the wheel well.</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3">#3 single bracket direct to the frame.&nbsp; This part is unique in its appearance in that it has a serpentine shape, mounts to the frame where the lever shock mounts and reaches up to accept the top of the shock.&nbsp; It has been said that this bracket will crack the frame since it has a long lever arm and could apply additional torque to the mount.&nbsp; But a quick vector analysis indicates that the forces are parallel to the long axis of the bracket and the loading on the frame will be not significantly different that those applied by the original lever shock.&nbsp; The TR6 frame is infamous for having weak spots but the shock mount is not one of them.&nbsp; The differential mount certainly is and 40 year old frames tend to experience cracking regardless of what shock system is used.</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3">I've used #2 and #3 and, more recently, switched back to lever shocks re-valved by World Wide Auto Parts and find this a good solution for street use.&nbsp; I suppose I could have tried a series of telescopic shocks with #3 but having other irons in the fire I did not pursue that approach. <br>
</font></div>

<div><font size="3"><br>
</font></div>

<div style="clear:both"><font size="4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

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To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Sun, May 10, 2020 11:12 pm<br>
Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
<br>

<div id="yiv1024341777">An old topic,&nbsp; but came up recently from the mgb side of my club&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;john twist of university motors has a video cautioning folks with this mod on their b to check the bolts on their conversion brackets.&nbsp; &nbsp;I checked this on my 6 and all 4 bolts were nicely tight after many years. Also, no frame cracking that I could see.&nbsp; &nbsp; After some of the horror storis about this conversion,&nbsp; &nbsp;I might not do it again&nbsp;
<div id="yiv1024341777yMail_cursorElementTracker_1589170186222">Cheers&nbsp; &nbsp;bruce simms<br>
<br>
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From: Greg Lemon via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 10:47:44 -0500

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I have the type that mounts to the old shock mount, just one guy, but ten
years including regular autocross duties and the mounts and frame are still
fine.

Somewhere I read, maybe the Williams book on improving TR, that you want to
make sure the bump stops do their job, so the load at end of travel isn't
transferred through the shock.

I put on new bump stops and put an extra washer or two under it as a can't
hurt, might help measure.

Greg Lemon
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<div dir=3D"auto">I have the type that mounts to the old shock mount, just =
one guy, but ten years including regular autocross duties and the mounts an=
d frame are still fine.=C2=A0=C2=A0<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"=
auto">Somewhere I read, maybe the Williams book on improving TR, that you w=
ant to make sure the bump stops do their job, so the load at end of travel =
isn&#39;t transferred through the shock.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><=
div dir=3D"auto">I put on new bump stops and put an extra washer or two und=
er it as a can&#39;t hurt, might help measure.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br><=
/div><div dir=3D"auto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">TR250</div></div>

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From: Mark Luichinger via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 12:22:09 -0400

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Has anyone tried Ratco=E2=80=99s coil over shock conversion.  It seems to be=
 the right way to do this type of conversion.=20

Sent from my iPad

> On May 11, 2020, at 8:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>=
 wrote:
> =EF=BB=BF
al significant differences.  I know of three styles:
>=20
> #1 A simple bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well.  This one is evil=
.  This kit transfers all the shock loading to the bodywork which was not de=
signed to this and will suffer for it.  Avoid at all costs.
>=20
> #2 Multi-piece.  This has a series of three brackets on each side.  There i=
s a bracket that mounts to the inner wheel well as in the on above but it al=
so bolts up to another bracket in the recess by the gas tank which mounts up=
 to yet another bracket that bolts up to the mount for the lever shock.  Thi=
s kit transfers the shock loading to the frame point that was designed for i=
t.  The down side is there are six pieces requiring 16 new holes in the body=
work and the brackets are bulky.  I removed mine after I found the tire on o=
ne side was rubbing against the bracket in the wheel well.
>=20
> #3 single bracket direct to the frame.  This part is unique in its appeara=
nce in that it has a serpentine shape, mounts to the frame where the lever s=
hock mounts and reaches up to accept the top of the shock.  It has been said=
 that this bracket will crack the frame since it has a long lever arm and co=
uld apply additional torque to the mount.  But a quick vector analysis indic=
ates that the forces are parallel to the long axis of the bracket and the lo=
ading on the frame will be not significantly different that those applied by=
 the original lever shock.  The TR6 frame is infamous for having weak spots b=
ut the shock mount is not one of them.  The differential mount certainly is a=
nd 40 year old frames tend to experience cracking regardless of what shock s=
ystem is used.
>=20
> I've used #2 and #3 and, more recently, switched back to lever shocks re-v=
alved by World Wide Auto Parts and find this a good solution for street use.=
  I suppose I could have tried a series of telescopic shocks with #3 but hav=
ing other irons in the fire I did not pursue that approach.=20
> An old topic,  but came up recently from the mgb side of my club     john t=
wist of university motors has a video cautioning folks with this mod on thei=
r b to check the bolts on their conversion brackets.   I checked this on my 6=
 and all 4 bolts were nicely tight after many years. Also, no frame cracking=
 that I could see.    After some of the horror storis about this conversion,=
   I might not do it again=20
> Cheers   bruce simms
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Has anyone tried Ratco=E2=80=99s coil over s=
hock conversion. &nbsp;It seems to be the right way to do this type of conve=
rsion.&nbsp;<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir=3D"ltr"=
><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 11, 2020, at 8:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY via=
 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockq=
uote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">There are several tube shock conversion kits out ther=
e and there are several significant differences.&nbsp; I know of three style=
s:</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">#1 A simple bracket that mounts to the inner wheel wel=
l.&nbsp; This one is evil.&nbsp; This kit transfers all the shock loading to=
 the bodywork which was not designed to this and will suffer for it.&nbsp; A=
void at all costs.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">#2 Multi-piece.&nbsp; This has a series of three brack=
ets on each side.&nbsp; There is a bracket that mounts to the inner wheel we=
ll as in the on above but it also bolts up to another bracket in the recess b=
y the gas tank which mounts up to yet another bracket that bolts up to the m=
ount for the lever shock.&nbsp; This kit transfers the shock loading to the f=
rame point that was designed for it.&nbsp; The down side is there are six pi=
eces requiring 16 new holes in the bodywork and the brackets are bulky.&nbsp=
; I removed mine after I found the tire on one side was rubbing against the b=
racket in the wheel well.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">#3 single bracket direct to the frame.&nbsp; This part=
 is unique in its appearance in that it has a serpentine shape, mounts to th=
e frame where the lever shock mounts and reaches up to accept the top of the=
 shock.&nbsp; It has been said that this bracket will crack the frame since i=
t has a long lever arm and could apply additional torque to the mount.&nbsp;=
 But a quick vector analysis indicates that the forces are parallel to the l=
ong axis of the bracket and the loading on the frame will be not significant=
ly different that those applied by the original lever shock.&nbsp; The TR6 f=
rame is infamous for having weak spots but the shock mount is not one of the=
m.&nbsp; The differential mount certainly is and 40 year old frames tend to e=
xperience cracking regardless of what shock system is used.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I've used #2 and #3 and, more recently, switched back t=
o lever shocks re-valved by World Wide Auto Parts and find this a good solut=
ion for street use.&nbsp; I suppose I could have tried a series of telescopi=
c shocks with #3 but having other irons in the fire I did not pursue that ap=
proach. <br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br>
</font></div>

<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
<br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----O=
riginal Message-----<br>

<div id=3D"yiv1024341777">An old topic,&nbsp; but came up recently from the m=
gb side of my club&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;john twist of university motors has a v=
ideo cautioning folks with this mod on their b to check the bolts on their c=
onversion brackets.&nbsp; &nbsp;I checked this on my 6 and all 4 bolts were n=
icely tight after many years. Also, no frame cracking that I could see.&nbsp=
; &nbsp; After some of the horror storis about this conversion,&nbsp; &nbsp;=
I might not do it again&nbsp;
<div id=3D"yiv1024341777yMail_cursorElementTracker_1589170186222">Cheers&nbs=
p; &nbsp;bruce simms<br>
<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</div>
</div>
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From: DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 17:00:36 +0000 (UTC)

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 Well, yeah!=C2=A0 The factory should have done it this way from the start.=
=C2=A0 It would be consistent with the front suspension design.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Luichinger <[email-masked]>
To: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 11:22 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

Has anyone tried Ratco=E2=80=99s coil over shock conversion. =C2=A0It seems=
 to be the right way to do this type of conversion.=C2=A0

Sent from my iPad

On May 11, 2020, at 8:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack <[email-masked]> =
wrote:

=EF=BB=BF There are several tube shock conversion kits out there and there =
are several significant differences.=C2=A0 I know of three styles:

Dave=20

=20
=20
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From: Yahoo via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Sun, May 10, 2020 11:12 pm
Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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<div style=3D"color:black;font: 12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">
<div> <font size=3D"3">Well, yeah!&nbsp; The factory should have done it th=
is way from the start.&nbsp; It would be consistent with the front suspensi=
on design.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: Mark Luichinger &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: DAVID MASSEY &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 11:22 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
<br>

<div id=3D"yiv5645220750">
<div>Has anyone tried Ratco=E2=80=99s coil over shock conversion. &nbsp;It =
seems to be the right way to do this type of conversion.&nbsp;<br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Sent from my iPad</div>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><blockquote type=3D"cite">On May 11, 20=
20, at 8:24 AM, DAVID MASSEY via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:<=
br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote></div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF

<div class=3D"yiv5645220750yqt5789502241" id=3D"yiv5645220750yqt80852">
<div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">

<div> <font size=3D"3">There are several tube shock conversion kits out the=
re and there are several significant differences.&nbsp; I know of three sty=
les:</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">#1 A simple bracket that mounts to the inner wheel we=
ll.&nbsp; This one is evil.&nbsp; This kit transfers all the shock loading =
to the bodywork which was not designed to this and will suffer for it.&nbsp=
; Avoid at all costs.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">#2 Multi-piece.&nbsp; This has a series of three brac=
kets on each side.&nbsp; There is a bracket that mounts to the inner wheel =
well as in the on above but it also bolts up to another bracket in the rece=
ss by the gas tank which mounts up to yet another bracket that bolts up to =
the mount for the lever shock.&nbsp; This kit transfers the shock loading t=
o the frame point that was designed for it.&nbsp; The down side is there ar=
e six pieces requiring 16 new holes in the bodywork and the brackets are bu=
lky.&nbsp; I removed mine after I found the tire on one side was rubbing ag=
ainst the bracket in the wheel well.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">#3 single bracket direct to the frame.&nbsp; This par=
t is unique in its appearance in that it has a serpentine shape, mounts to =
the frame where the lever shock mounts and reaches up to accept the top of =
the shock.&nbsp; It has been said that this bracket will crack the frame si=
nce it has a long lever arm and could apply additional torque to the mount.=
&nbsp; But a quick vector analysis indicates that the forces are parallel t=
o the long axis of the bracket and the loading on the frame will be not sig=
nificantly different that those applied by the original lever shock.&nbsp; =
The TR6 frame is infamous for having weak spots but the shock mount is not =
one of them.&nbsp; The differential mount certainly is and 40 year old fram=
es tend to experience cracking regardless of what shock system is used.</fo=
nt></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">I've used #2 and #3 and, more recently, switched back=
 to lever shocks re-valved by World Wide Auto Parts and find this a good so=
lution for street use.&nbsp; I suppose I could have tried a series of teles=
copic shocks with #3 but having other irons in the fire I did not pursue th=
at approach. <br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3"><br clear=3D"none">
</font></div>

<div style=3D"clear:both;"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div> <br clear=3D"none">
</div>

<div> <br clear=3D"none">
</div>

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From: Yahoo via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Sun, May 10, 2020 11:12 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">

<div id=3D"yiv5645220750">An old topic,&nbsp; but came up recently from the=
 mgb side of my club&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;john twist of university motors has=
 a video cautioning folks with this mod on their b to check the bolts on th=
eir conversion brackets.&nbsp; &nbsp;I checked this on my 6 and all 4 bolts=
 were nicely tight after many years. Also, no frame cracking that I could s=
ee.&nbsp; &nbsp; After some of the horror storis about this conversion,&nbs=
p; &nbsp;I might not do it again&nbsp;

<div id=3D"yiv5645220750yMail_cursorElementTracker_1589170186222">Cheers&nb=
sp; &nbsp;bruce simms<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>

</div>

<br clear=3D"none">
</div>

</div>
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From: Mark J Bradakis via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 11:04:15 -0600

Back in the summer of 1990, maybe '91, my wife and I took a vacation in 
Wales and England.  And gosh, somehow our trip just happened to coincide 
with the TR Register's 21st annual gathering.  That was an amazing 
event, relly  enjoyed it.

One of the many vendors was Racetorations.  They had on display a tube 
shock conversion kit that was this fancy, intricate bit of welded 
aluminum plate that was in the style of bolt to the original shock 
mounts.  A bit past prototype, but not quite production ready, I ended 
up buying the kit for my TR-250 I had at the time.  One car I really 
wish I had not sold.

Anyway, we came within a minute or two of missing our flight back to the 
States because the customs guys at Heathrow were absolutely, positively 
certain that the bright yellow metal cylinders in my suitcase, the Spax 
shocks, were actually some sort of bombs.  I can't recall for certain, 
but I think I ended up showing them an ad in some magazine that featured 
Spax shocks that convinced them to let me through with my prized 
acquisition.  It was close, though!

mjb.

ps:  I also have a set of those amazing, wonderful brackets that just 
bolt to the body sheet metal.  Such classic parts must be worth a small 
fortune!

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From: William Pugh via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 10:50:35 -0700

why??  Unless you are hard into racing or even autocross … that is a lot of effort and money … why?  TR6 rides as good as any and if   you are showing … Triumphest, most Concours will ding you a few points.

just wondering … why?

> On May 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis via 6pack <[email-masked]> wrote:
> 
> Back in the summer of 1990, maybe '91, my wife and I took a vacation in Wales and England.  And gosh, somehow our trip just happened to coincide with the TR Register's 21st annual gathering.  That was an amazing event, relly  enjoyed it.
> 
> One of the many vendors was Racetorations.  They had on display a tube shock conversion kit that was this fancy, intricate bit of welded aluminum plate that was in the style of bolt to the original shock mounts.  A bit past prototype, but not quite production ready, I ended up buying the kit for my TR-250 I had at the time.  One car I really wish I had not sold.
> 
> Anyway, we came within a minute or two of missing our flight back to the States because the customs guys at Heathrow were absolutely, positively certain that the bright yellow metal cylinders in my suitcase, the Spax shocks, were actually some sort of bombs.  I can't recall for certain, but I think I ended up showing them an ad in some magazine that featured Spax shocks that convinced them to let me through with my prized acquisition.  It was close, though!
> 
> mjb.
> 
> ps:  I also have a set of those amazing, wonderful brackets that just bolt to the body sheet metal.  Such classic parts must be worth a small fortune!
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 12:52:55 -0500

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On Mon, May 11, 2020, 12:20 PM Mark J Bradakis via 6pack <
[email-masked]> wrote:

> "Anyway, we came within a minute or two of missing our flight back to the
> shocks, were actually some sort of bombs.
>
> mjb."
>
> Mark,
>

Should have grabbed the shock back and pushed and pulled to demonstrate
damping action, I am not sure if everybody would have taken cover, but you
probably would have ended up in handcuffs, at least for a bit.

Similar story, friend was bringing back a turbocharger for a BMC A series.
There was a lot of hemming and hawing about whether it should be allowed on
the plane.  Ultimately the airport guys asked if the part was ever exposed
to petrol.  My friend decided the pragmatic answer would be "no", and they
let him and the parts through.

Greg Lemon
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ck &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
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ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Back in the summer of 1990,=
 maybe &#39;91, my wife and I took a vacation in <br>
Wales and England.=C2=A0 And gosh, somehow our trip just happened to coinci=
de <br>
with the TR Register&#39;s 21st annual gathering.=C2=A0 That was an amazing=
 <br>
event, relly=C2=A0 enjoyed it.<br><br>
<br>&quot;Anyway, we came within a minute or two of missing our flight back=
 to the <br>
States because the customs guys at Heathrow were absolutely, positively <br=
certain that the bright yellow metal cylinders in my suitcase, the Spax <br=
shocks, were actually some sort of bombs.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
mjb.&quot;<br>
<br>Mark,<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=
=3D"auto">Should have grabbed the shock back and pushed and pulled to demon=
strate damping action, I am not sure if everybody would have taken cover, b=
ut you probably would have ended up in handcuffs, at least for a bit.</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Similar story, friend was bri=
nging back a turbocharger for a BMC A series.=C2=A0 There was a lot of hemm=
ing and hawing about whether it should be allowed on the plane.=C2=A0 Ultim=
ately the airport guys asked if the part was ever exposed to petrol.=C2=A0 =
My friend decided the pragmatic answer would be &quot;no&quot;, and they le=
t him and the parts through.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"a=
uto">Greg Lemon</div><div dir=3D"auto">Still has his TR250</div><div dir=3D=
"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
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From: Mark J Bradakis via 6pack <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 11 May 2020 12:04:29 -0600

> why??  Unless you are hard into racing or even autocross … that is a lot of effort and money … why?  TR6 rides as good as any and if   you are showing … Triumphest, most Concours will ding you a fe…

At the time I was autocrossing the car pretty seriously, and wanted to 
give the easily adjustable Spax a shot to see if they helped with fine 
tuning the cornering.  And as I recall after 30 years or so they did 
help, but certainly not miracle workers.

mjb.

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Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 00:47:29 +0000 (UTC)

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 Well, I had a set of stock shocks rebuilt by (name withheld) and I bought =
the "Heavy Duty" rebuild.=C2=A0 They were worthless.=C2=A0 When I bounced t=
he car by pushing on the rear bumper it would continue to bounce 3 or 4 tim=
es.=C2=A0 Crap, they were.=C2=A0=C2=A0=20

After a couple tube shock conversions I decided to give it another go but t=
hins time I sent them (probably the same shocks) to World Wide and they wor=
k as they should.=C2=A0 He re-valved them and refilled them (and did whatev=
er he does when he reworks them and They work just fine.
=20
Dave=20

=20
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: William Pugh via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

why??=C2=A0 Unless you are hard into racing or even autocross =E2=80=A6 tha=
t is a lot of effort and money =E2=80=A6 why?=C2=A0 TR6 rides as good as an=
y and if=C2=A0 you are showing =E2=80=A6 Triumphest, most Concours will din=
g you a few points.

just wondering =E2=80=A6 why?

> On May 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis via 6pack <[email-masked]=
.net> wrote:
>=20
> Back in the summer of 1990, maybe '91, my wife and I took a vacation in W=
ales and England.=C2=A0 And gosh, somehow our trip just happened to coincid=
e with the TR Register's 21st annual gathering.=C2=A0 That was an amazing e=
vent, relly=C2=A0 enjoyed it.
>=20
> One of the many vendors was Racetorations.=C2=A0 They had on display a tu=
be shock conversion kit that was this fancy, intricate bit of welded alumin=
um plate that was in the style of bolt to the original shock mounts.=C2=A0 =
A bit past prototype, but not quite production ready, I ended up buying the=
 kit for my TR-250 I had at the time.=C2=A0 One car I really wish I had not=
 sold.
>=20
> Anyway, we came within a minute or two of missing our flight back to the =
States because the customs guys at Heathrow were absolutely, positively cer=
tain that the bright yellow metal cylinders in my suitcase, the Spax shocks=
, were actually some sort of bombs.=C2=A0 I can't recall for certain, but I=
 think I ended up showing them an ad in some magazine that featured Spax sh=
ocks that convinced them to let me through with my prized acquisition.=C2=
=A0 It was close, though!
>=20
> mjb.
>=20
> ps:=C2=A0 I also have a set of those amazing, wonderful brackets that jus=
t bolt to the body sheet metal.=C2=A0 Such classic parts must be worth a sm=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Well, I had a set of stock shocks rebuilt by (name w=
ithheld) and I bought the "Heavy Duty" rebuild.&nbsp; They were worthless.&=
nbsp; When I bounced the car by pushing on the rear bumper it would continu=
e to bounce 3 or 4 times.&nbsp; Crap, they were.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"3">After a couple tube shock conversions I decided to gi=
ve it another go but thins time I sent them (probably the same shocks) to W=
orld Wide and they work as they should.&nbsp; He re-valved them and refille=
d them (and did whatever he does when he reworks them and They work just fi=
ne.</font><br>
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From: William Pugh via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: Mark J Bradakis &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 12:50 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
<br>

<div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><=
br clear=3D"none">why??&nbsp; Unless you are hard into racing or even autoc=
ross =E2=80=A6 that is a lot of effort and money =E2=80=A6 why?&nbsp; TR6 r=
ides as good as any and if&nbsp;  you are showing =E2=80=A6 Triumphest, mos=
t Concours will ding you a few points.<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"=
>just wondering =E2=80=A6 why?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">&gt; On=
 May 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis via 6pack &lt;<a shape=3D"rect"=
 ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
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tion in Wales and England.&nbsp; And gosh, somehow our trip just happened t=
o coincide with the TR Register's 21st annual gathering.&nbsp; That was an =
amazing event, relly&nbsp; enjoyed it.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"=
none">&gt; One of the many vendors was Racetorations.&nbsp; They had on dis=
play a tube shock conversion kit that was this fancy, intricate bit of weld=
ed aluminum plate that was in the style of bolt to the original shock mount=
s.&nbsp; A bit past prototype, but not quite production ready, I ended up b=
uying the kit for my TR-250 I had at the time.&nbsp; One car I really wish =
I had not sold.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Anyway, we c=
ame within a minute or two of missing our flight back to the States because=
 the customs guys at Heathrow were absolutely, positively certain that the =
bright yellow metal cylinders in my suitcase, the Spax shocks, were actuall=
y some sort of bombs.&nbsp; I can't recall for certain, but I think I ended=
 up showing them an ad in some magazine that featured Spax shocks that conv=
inced them to let me through with my prized acquisition.&nbsp; It was close=
, though!<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; mjb.<br clear=3D"n=
one">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; ps:&nbsp; I also have a set of those amaz=
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To: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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I investigated the tube shock conversion a few years ago and decided to =
stick with lever shocks, rebuilt with stiffer valves by World Wide.

=20

My son autocrosses this car very successfully.

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Fyi:  https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/tr6shocks.html

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Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 7:47 PM
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Well, I had a set of stock shocks rebuilt by (name withheld) and I =
bought the "Heavy Duty" rebuild.  They were worthless.  When I bounced =
the car by pushing on the rear bumper it would continue to bounce 3 or 4 =
times.  Crap, they were.  =20

=20

After a couple tube shock conversions I decided to give it another go =
but thins time I sent them (probably the same shocks) to World Wide and =
they work as they should.  He re-valved them and refilled them (and did =
whatever he does when he reworks them and They work just fine.

=20

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=20

=20

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From: William Pugh via 6pack <[email-masked] =
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

why??  Unless you are hard into racing or even autocross =E2=80=A6 that =
is a lot of effort and money =E2=80=A6 why?  TR6 rides as good as any =
and if  you are showing =E2=80=A6 Triumphest, most Concours will ding =
you a few points.

> On May 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis via 6pack =
>=20
> Back in the summer of 1990, maybe '91, my wife and I took a vacation =
in Wales and England.  And gosh, somehow our trip just happened to =
coincide with the TR Register's 21st annual gathering.  That was an =
amazing event, relly  enjoyed it.
>=20
> One of the many vendors was Racetorations.  They had on display a tube =
shock conversion kit that was this fancy, intricate bit of welded =
aluminum plate that was in the style of bolt to the original shock =
mounts.  A bit past prototype, but not quite production ready, I ended =
up buying the kit for my TR-250 I had at the time.  One car I really =
wish I had not sold.
>=20
> Anyway, we came within a minute or two of missing our flight back to =
the States because the customs guys at Heathrow were absolutely, =
positively certain that the bright yellow metal cylinders in my =
suitcase, the Spax shocks, were actually some sort of bombs.  I can't =
recall for certain, but I think I ended up showing them an ad in some =
magazine that featured Spax shocks that convinced them to let me through =
with my prized acquisition.  It was close, though!
>=20
> mjb.
>=20
> ps:  I also have a set of those amazing, wonderful brackets that just =
bolt to the body sheet metal.  Such classic parts must be worth a small =
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investigated the tube shock conversion a few years ago and decided to =
stick with lever shocks, rebuilt with stiffer valves by World =
Wide.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>My son autocrosses this car very =
successfully.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Fyi:=C2=A0 <a =
href=3D"https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/tr6shocks.html">https://www=
.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/tr6shocks.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> 6pack =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY =
via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 7:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wel=
l, I had a set of stock shocks rebuilt by (name withheld) and I bought =
the &quot;Heavy Duty&quot; rebuild.&nbsp; They were worthless.&nbsp; =
When I bounced the car by pushing on the rear bumper it would continue =
to bounce 3 or 4 times.&nbsp; Crap, they were.&nbsp;&nbsp; =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Aft=
er a couple tube shock conversions I decided to give it another go but =
thins time I sent them (probably the same shocks) to World Wide and they =
work as they should.&nbsp; He re-valved them and refilled them (and did =
whatever he does when he reworks them and They work just =
fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: William Pugh via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: =
Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: =
Mon, May 11, 2020 12:50 pm<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
><br><br><br>why??&nbsp; Unless you are hard into racing or even =
autocross =E2=80=A6 that is a lot of effort and money =E2=80=A6 =
why?&nbsp; TR6 rides as good as any and if&nbsp; you are showing =
=E2=80=A6 Triumphest, most Concours will ding you a few =
points.<br><br>just wondering =E2=80=A6 why?<br><br>&gt; On May 11, =
2020, at 10:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Back in the summer of 1990, maybe '91, my wife =
and I took a vacation in Wales and England.&nbsp; And gosh, somehow our =
trip just happened to coincide with the TR Register's 21st annual =
gathering.&nbsp; That was an amazing event, relly&nbsp; enjoyed =
it.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; One of the many vendors was Racetorations.&nbsp; =
They had on display a tube shock conversion kit that was this fancy, =
intricate bit of welded aluminum plate that was in the style of bolt to =
the original shock mounts.&nbsp; A bit past prototype, but not quite =
production ready, I ended up buying the kit for my TR-250 I had at the =
time.&nbsp; One car I really wish I had not sold.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
Anyway, we came within a minute or two of missing our flight back to the =
States because the customs guys at Heathrow were absolutely, positively =
certain that the bright yellow metal cylinders in my suitcase, the Spax =
shocks, were actually some sort of bombs.&nbsp; I can't recall for =
certain, but I think I ended up showing them an ad in some magazine that =
featured Spax shocks that convinced them to let me through with my =
prized acquisition.&nbsp; It was close, though!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
mjb.<br>&gt; <br>&gt; ps:&nbsp; I also have a set of those amazing, =
wonderful brackets that just bolt to the body sheet metal.&nbsp; Such =
classic parts must be worth a small fortune!<br>&gt; <br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
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> Stan,

Curious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 years?  I am
sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on mine.

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:1ex">Stan,=C2=A0</blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto">Curious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 year=
s?=C2=A0 I am sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on mine.</di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Thanks, Greg</div><div dir=
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 Pretty much my experience.=C2=A0 I had the single piece brackets ( https:/=
/mossmotors.com/rear-shock-conversion-bracket-set ) and some generic tube s=
hocks which I bought second hand from someone else who also converted back =
to levers.=C2=A0 I noticed no significant changes when I switched back to t=
he levers.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: dave via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: 'Yahoo via 6pack' <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 8:40 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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v8958585215 I investigated the tube shock conversion a few years ago and de=
cided to stick with lever shocks, rebuilt with stiffer valves by World Wide=
. =C2=A0My son autocrosses this car very successfully. =C2=A0Fyi:=C2=A0 htt=
ps://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/tr6shocks.html =C2=A0From: 6pack <6pack-=
[email-masked]> On Behalf Of DAVID MASSEY via 6pack
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 7:47 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion =C2=A0Well, I had a set of =
stock shocks rebuilt by (name withheld) and I bought the "Heavy Duty" rebui=
ld.=C2=A0 They were worthless.=C2=A0 When I bounced the car by pushing on t=
he rear bumper it would continue to bounce 3 or 4 times.=C2=A0 Crap, they w=
ere.=C2=A0=C2=A0  =C2=A0After a couple tube shock conversions I decided to =
give it another go but thins time I sent them (probably the same shocks) to=
 World Wide and they work as they should.=C2=A0 He re-valved them and refil=
led them (and did whatever he does when he reworks them and They work just =
fine. =C2=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: William Pugh via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: Mark J Bradakis <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 12:50 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

@comcast.net

Life is too short
to drive Boring Cars=20

[email-masked]

@cs.com_______________________________________________
Archive: http://www.team.net/archive

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<div> <font size=3D"3">Pretty much my experience.&nbsp; I had the single pi=
ece brackets ( https://mossmotors.com/rear-shock-conversion-bracket-set ) a=
nd some generic tube shocks which I bought second hand from someone else wh=
o also converted back to levers.&nbsp; I noticed no significant changes whe=
n I switched back to the levers.</font><br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div> <br>
</div>

<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
Original Message-----<br>
From: dave via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'Yahoo via 6pack' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 8:40 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
<br>

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<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal">I investigated the tube shock convers=
ion a few years ago and decided to stick with lever shocks, rebuilt with st=
iffer valves by World Wide.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal">My son autocrosses this car very succ=
essfully.</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal">Fyi:&nbsp; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/t=
r6shocks.html">https://www.ranteer.com/davescars/tr6/tr6shocks.html</a></di=
v>

<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8958585215yqt7351073286" id=3D"yiv8958585215yqt81714">
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> 6pack &lt;6pack-bounces@=
autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY via 6pack<br clear=3D"n=
one"><b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 7:47 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=
 [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> 6pack=
@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Rear tube sho=
ck conversion</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Well, I had a set of stock shocks rebuilt b=
y (name withheld) and I bought the "Heavy Duty" rebuild.&nbsp; They were wo=
rthless.&nbsp; When I bounced the car by pushing on the rear bumper it woul=
d continue to bounce 3 or 4 times.&nbsp; Crap, they were.&nbsp;&nbsp; </spa=
n></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">After a couple tube shock conversions I dec=
ided to give it another go but thins time I sent them (probably the same sh=
ocks) to World Wide and they work as they should.&nbsp; He re-valved them a=
nd refilled them (and did whatever he does when he reworks them and They wo=
rk just fine.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dave </span=
><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"></spa=
n></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">-----Origin=
al Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: William Pugh via 6pack &lt;<a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&g=
t;<br clear=3D"none">To: Mark J Bradakis &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc: <a rel=
=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><b=
r clear=3D"none">Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 12:50 pm<br clear=3D"none">Subject=
: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion</span></div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv8958585215MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br c=
lear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">why??&nbsp; Unless you are hard into racin=
g or even autocross =E2=80=A6 that is a lot of effort and money =E2=80=A6 w=
hy?&nbsp; TR6 rides as good as any and if&nbsp; you are showing =E2=80=A6 T=
riumphest, most Concours will ding you a few points.<br clear=3D"none"><br =
clear=3D"none">just wondering =E2=80=A6 why?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">&gt; On May 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Mark J Bradakis via 6pack &lt;<a =
rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" tar=
get=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Back in the sum=
mer of 1990, maybe '91, my wife and I took a vacation in Wales and England.=
&nbsp; And gosh, somehow our trip just happened to coincide with the TR Reg=
ister's 21st annual gathering.&nbsp; That was an amazing event, relly&nbsp;=
 enjoyed it.<br clear=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; One of the many=
 vendors was Racetorations.&nbsp; They had on display a tube shock conversi=
on kit that was this fancy, intricate bit of welded aluminum plate that was=
 in the style of bolt to the original shock mounts.&nbsp; A bit past protot=
ype, but not quite production ready, I ended up buying the kit for my TR-25=
0 I had at the time.&nbsp; One car I really wish I had not sold.<br clear=
=3D"none">&gt; <br clear=3D"none">&gt; Anyway, we came within a minute or t=
wo of missing our flight back to the States because the customs guys at Hea=
throw were absolutely, positively certain that the bright yellow metal cyli=
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 Remember, these frames are over 40 years old and were not terribly robust =
to begin with.=C2=A0 The leverage applied by the lever shocks is no differe=
nt than that applied by these brackets and I suspect your frame would have =
failed in either case.
=C2=A0One big difference is that if you don't have good bump stops the shoc=
k can bottom out and put higher than normal stress on this part.=C2=A0 With=
 the lever shocks the trailing arm will hit the frame with a colossal wack.=
=C2=A0 If the tube shock bottoms out first you won't get that audible warni=
ng.
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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: Stan Foster via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: [email-masked] <[email-masked]>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 8:43 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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v7000309789 It took over 10 years to do it but eventually the leverage from=
 that bolt on rear shock conversion bracket tore the side out of the flimsy=
 sheet metal cross member.  =C2=A0   =C2=A0 From: 6pack <6pack-bounces@auto=
x.team.net> On Behalf OfYahoo via 6pack
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2020 12:12 AM
To: [email-masked]
Subject: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion  =C2=A0 An old topic,=C2=A0 but=
 came up recently from the mgb side of my club=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0john twis=
t of university motors has a video cautioning folks with this mod on their =
b to check the bolts on their conversion brackets.=C2=A0 =C2=A0I checked th=
is on my 6 and all 4 bolts were nicely tight after many years. Also, no fra=
me cracking that I could see.=C2=A0 =C2=A0 After some of the horror storis =
about this conversion,=C2=A0 =C2=A0I might not do it again=C2=A0 Cheers=C2=
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<div> <font size=3D"4">Remember, these frames are over 40 years old and wer=
e not terribly robust to begin with.&nbsp; The leverage applied by the leve=
r shocks is no different than that applied by these brackets and I suspect =
your frame would have failed in either case.</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4"><br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4">&nbsp;One big difference is that if you don't have go=
od bump stops the shock can bottom out and put higher than normal stress on=
 this part.&nbsp; With the lever shocks the trailing arm will hit the frame=
 with a colossal wack.&nbsp; If the tube shock bottoms out first you won't =
get that audible warning.<br>
</font></div>

<div><font size=3D"4"> </font><br>
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From: Stan Foster via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: [email-masked] &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Mon, May 11, 2020 8:43 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
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the side out of the flimsy sheet metal cross member.
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autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>Yahoo via 6pack<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 11, 2020 12:12 AM<br clear=3D"none">
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<b>Subject:</b> [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv7000309789MsoNormal">An old topic,&nbsp; but came up recen=
tly from the mgb side of my club&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;john twist of universit=
y motors has a video cautioning folks with this mod on their b to check the=
 bolts on their conversion brackets.&nbsp; &nbsp;I checked this on my 6 and=
 all
 4 bolts were nicely tight after many years. Also, no frame cracking that I=
 could see.&nbsp; &nbsp; After some of the horror storis about this convers=
ion,&nbsp; &nbsp;I might not do it again&nbsp;</div>
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Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 07:28:36 -0400

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I may be in the minority, but I am a fan of my Racetorations shock =
conversions on my 250s.  Compared to the TR5, it feels like a firmer =
ride.

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Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

=20

From: 6pack <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon via =
6pack
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM
To: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Cc: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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Stan,=20

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Curious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 years?  I am =
sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on mine.

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style=3D'font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>I may be in =
the minority, but I am a fan of my Racetorations shock conversions on my =
250s.=C2=A0 Compared to the TR5, it feels like a firmer =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> 6pack =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon via =
6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> Stan =
Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 6pack =
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 Hi All - I wasn't going to jump in on this one, but I just wanted to chime=
 in on a couple of notes. The two things that the bolt-in-place of the stoc=
k shock units (not all!) seem to lack is: 1. the lower bump stop (the upper=
 stop is that squarish thing in the wheel well, so no need to duplicate tha=
t) and 2. the ability to compensate for the arc of motion of the trailing a=
rm. 1 is easy to deal with, but you need to be careful that you don't wind =
up with sudden loss of motion else the car will handle in an evil manner at=
 the limits. 2 is also easy to deal with provided you use a compliant mount=
 (upper and lower) to allow the shock mount to sort of swivel. If you go to=
o stiff on the mounts, the energy has to transfer somewhere, hence the brok=
en frame mounts and/or cracks.
The shock that mounts through the stock spring location, more or less like =
a coil-over is okay but you are limited to how big of a shock you can fit i=
n there and that limits how effective the system will be. The main problem =
there is that the center line of the spring intersects with the wheel so ba=
sically it's "little shocks" or nothing. For hard driving applications, the=
 result would be degredation of damping as the oil in the shock heat up (an=
d then foams or whatever). In a street car, you probably would never see th=
is except in the worst roads over a long period.
Regarding the advantages of the lever shock - most importantly, lever shock=
s add the least amount of unsprung mass to the suspension. Depending on how=
 you mount your tube shock, you might be adding unsprung weight and that's =
going to effect handling.
All that said, for tuning suspension, the shocks are the last final fine tu=
ning, not the beginning of a handling tune. Keep that in mind.
FWIW, I run modified levers for my race car. They work great. They don't gi=
ve the same amount of adjustability that a modern coil-over might provide, =
but for the way I use the car, they work great. So, plus one for World-Wide=
 from this owner. Do think about the upgrade to the adjustable option - it =
is worth the extra money. These are sometimes referred to as Armstrong 22's=
 which is a throwback reference to what was offered back in the day.

Regards,Bob Lang

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I do around 1200 miles a year in the TR6. It was a bumpy dirt road that fin=
ally broke the mount and I would say the welds holding the crossmember to t=
he frame were pretty iffy to start with and I had never once checked to see=
 if any were starting to crack. I bet if I had I would have spotted this st=
arting to fail and fix it without a ratco replacement crossmember.
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From: Greg Lemon <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM
To: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Cc: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion
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Stan,=C2=A0
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Curious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 years?=C2=A0 I am=
 sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on mine.
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Hi All - I wasn't going to j=
ump in on this one, but I just wanted to chime in on a couple of notes. The=
 two things that the bolt-in-place of the stock shock units (not all!) seem=
 to lack is: 1. the lower bump stop (the upper stop is that squarish thing =
in the wheel well, so no need to duplicate that) and 2. the ability to comp=
ensate for the arc of motion of the trailing arm. 1 is easy to deal with, b=
ut you need to be careful that you don't wind up with sudden loss of motion=
 else the car will handle in an evil manner at the limits. 2 is also easy t=
o deal with provided you use a compliant mount (upper and lower) to allow t=
he shock mount to sort of swivel. If you go too stiff on the mounts, the en=
ergy has to transfer somewhere, hence the broken frame mounts and/or cracks=
.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" da=
ta-setdir=3D"false">The shock that mounts through the stock spring location=
, more or less like a coil-over is okay but you are limited to how big of a=
 shock you can fit in there and that limits how effective the system will b=
e. The main problem there is that the center line of the spring intersects =
with the wheel so basically it's "little shocks" or nothing. For hard drivi=
ng applications, the result would be degredation of damping as the oil in t=
he shock heat up (and then foams or whatever). In a street car, you probabl=
y would never see this except in the worst roads over a long period.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdi=
r=3D"false">Regarding the advantages of the lever shock - most importantly,=
 lever shocks add the least amount of unsprung mass to the suspension. Depe=
nding on how you mount your tube shock, you might be adding unsprung weight=
 and that's going to effect handling.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"=
false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">All that said, for =
tuning suspension, the shocks are the last final fine tuning, not the begin=
ning of a handling tune. Keep that in mind.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setd=
ir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">FWIW, I run m=
odified levers for my race car. They work great. They don't give the same a=
mount of adjustability that a modern coil-over might provide, but for the w=
ay I use the car, they work great. So, plus one for World-Wide from this ow=
ner. Do think about the upgrade to the adjustable option - it is worth the =
extra money. These are sometimes referred to as Armstrong 22's which is a t=
hrowback reference to what was offered back in the day.<br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"fa=
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ia 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt; wrote:
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<p class=3D"ydpe22b866dyiv5210037618MsoNormal">I do around 1200 miles a yea=
r in the TR6. It was a bumpy dirt road that finally broke the mount and I w=
ould say the welds holding the crossmember to the frame were pretty iffy to=
 start with and I had never once checked to see if any were
 starting to crack. I bet if I had I would have spotted this starting to fa=
il and fix it without a ratco replacement crossmember.</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpe22b866dyiv5210037618MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpe22b866dyiv5210037618MsoNormal">Stan</p>=20
<p class=3D"ydpe22b866dyiv5210037618MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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dium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;">
<p class=3D"ydpe22b866dyiv5210037618MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Greg Lemon &lt;=
[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe22b866dyiv5210037618MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p>=20
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<p class=3D"ydpe22b866dyiv5210037618MsoNormal">Curious, how many miles and =
how did you use the car in 10 years?&nbsp; I am sitting at about 10 years a=
nd maybe 12,000 miles on mine.</p>=20
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Date: Tue, 12 May 2020 11:43:59 +0000 (UTC)

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-----Original Message-----
From: andrew uprichard via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: 'Greg Lemon' <[email-masked]>; 'Stan Foster' <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 6:28 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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88256702WordSection1 {}#yiv5988256702 I may be in the minority, but I am a =
fan of my Racetorations shock conversions on my 250s.=C2=A0 Compared to the=
 TR5, it feels like a firmer ride. =C2=A0Andrew UprichardJackson, Michigan =
=C2=A0From: 6pack <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Greg Lemon vi=
a 6pack
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM
To: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Cc: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion =C2=A0
Stan,=C2=A0
 =C2=A0Curious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 years?=C2=
=A0 I am sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on mine. =C2=A0Th=
anks, Greg_______________________________________________
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From: andrew uprichard via 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'Greg Lemon' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; 'Stan Foster' &lt;[email-masked]=
m&gt;<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 6:28 am<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
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s shock conversions on my 250s.&nbsp; Compared to the TR5, it feels like a =
firmer ride.</span></div>

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color:#1F497D;"> &nbsp;</span></div>

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color:#1F497D;">Andrew Uprichard</span></div>

<div class=3D"yiv5988256702MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:New serif;=
color:#1F497D;">Jackson, Michigan</span></div>

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autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon via 6pack<br clear=3D"non=
e"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b>=
 Stan Foster &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> 6pack &lt=
;[email-masked]&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Rea=
r tube shock conversion</div>
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<div class=3D"yiv5988256702MsoNormal">Curious, how many miles and how did y=
ou use the car in 10 years?&nbsp; I am sitting at about 10 years and maybe =
12,000 miles on mine.</div>
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Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 6:28 am
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It's British -- "Aluminium" Greg

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> Wow.  Fancy.  All aluminum.
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On Tue, May 12, 2020, 3:18 PM DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dave1masse=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"g=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Wow.=C2=A0 Fancy.=C2=A0 All aluminum.</font><br>
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To: Andrew Uprichard <[email-masked]>
Cc: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 3:47 pm
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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To: Andrew Uprichard &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Cc: 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 3:47 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
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Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> 6pack =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY =
via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
[email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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ture?</span><span =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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e </span><span =
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p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
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--Original Message-----<br>From: andrew uprichard via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: =
'Greg Lemon' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'Stan Foster' =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: =
Tue, May 12, 2020 6:28 am<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv5988256702><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New serif",serif;color:#1F497D'>I =
may be in the minority, but I am a fan of my Racetorations shock =
conversions on my 250s.&nbsp; Compared to the TR5, it feels like a =
firmer ride.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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serif",serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
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p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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serif",serif;color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New =
serif",serif;color:#1F497D'>Jackson, Michigan</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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serif",serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv5988256702yqt92764><div =
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6pack &lt;<a =
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</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM<br><b>To:</b> Stan Foster &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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.0pt'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sta=
n,&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div><div><p=
 class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
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ious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 years?&nbsp; I am =
sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on =
mine.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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nks, =
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From: andrew uprichard <[email-masked]>
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 2:36 pm
Subject: RE: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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ehalf Of DAVID MASSEY via 6pack
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:44 AM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion =C2=A0Picture? =C2=A0Dave  =
=C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: andrew uprichard via 6pack <[email-masked]>
To: 'Greg Lemon' <[email-masked]>; 'Stan Foster' <[email-masked]>
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 6:28 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversionI may be in the minority, bu=
t I am a fan of my Racetorations shock conversions on my 250s.=C2=A0 Compar=
ed to the TR5, it feels like a firmer ride.=C2=A0Andrew UprichardJackson, M=
ichigan=C2=A0From: 6pack <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of Greg L=
emon via 6pack
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM
To: Stan Foster <[email-masked]>
Cc: 6pack <[email-masked]>
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion=C2=A0
Stan,=C2=A0
=C2=A0Curious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 years?=C2=
=A0 I am sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on mine.=C2=A0Tha=
nks, Greg_______________________________________________
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From: andrew uprichard &lt;[email-masked]&gt;<br>
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]; stan@redtr=
6.com<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 2:36 pm<br>
Subject: RE: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<br>
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> [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"=
><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pa=
ck] Rear tube shock conversion</div>
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el=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" targ=
et=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: 'Greg Lemon' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"re=
ct" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:gr=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'Stan Foster' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofol=
low" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">Cc:=
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t</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 6:28 am<br clear=3D"none">S=
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nt-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow"=
 shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_=
blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
m.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Greg Lemon via 6pack<br clear=3D"none"><b=
>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> Stan=
 Foster &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:stan@redtr=
6.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a=
>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> 6pack &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"r=
ect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mail=
to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none"><b>=
Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion</span></div>
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family:sans-serif;color:black;">Stan,&nbsp;</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv2599262246MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Curious, how many miles and how did you use=
 the car in 10 years?&nbsp; I am sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000=
 miles on mine.</span></div>
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<div class=3D"yiv2599262246MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Thanks, Greg</span></div>
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best =E2=80=9C !!

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From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:18 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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Dave=20

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From: andrew uprichard <[email-masked] =
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 2:36 pm
Subject: RE: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

Here you go=20

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Picture?

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Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: andrew uprichard via 6pack <[email-masked] =
Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 6:28 am
Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion

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Andrew Uprichard

Jackson, Michigan

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!!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Times New =
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0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 4:18 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> =
Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock conversion<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wow=
.&nbsp; Fancy.&nbsp; All aluminum.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
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e </span><span =
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p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: andrew uprichard &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
<br>To: 'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: =
Tue, May 12, 2020 2:36 pm<br>Subject: RE: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv2599262246><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New =
serif",serif;color:#1F497D'>Here you go </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"New =
serif",serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv2599262246yqt28039><div =
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0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>DAVID MASSEY via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Tuesday, May 12, 2020 7:44 AM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
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style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
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p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: andrew uprichard via 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>To: 'Greg Lemon' =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; 'Stan Foster' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Tue, May 12, 2020 =
6:28 am<br>Subject: Re: [6pack] Rear tube shock =
conversion<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dyiv2599262246><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>I may be in the minority, but I am a fan of =
my Racetorations shock conversions on my 250s.&nbsp; Compared to the =
TR5, it feels like a firmer ride.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Andrew Uprichard</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>Jackson, Michigan</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Times New =
Roman",serif;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv2599262246yqt92764><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
6pack &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Greg Lemon via 6pack<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, May 12, 2020 12:55 =
AM<br><b>To:</b> Stan Foster &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 6pack &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[6pack] Rear tube shock conversion</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5=
.0pt'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Sta=
n,&nbsp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Cur=
ious, how many miles and how did you use the car in 10 years?&nbsp; I am =
sitting at about 10 years and maybe 12,000 miles on mine.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
nks, Greg</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div =
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