Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

From: BILL WELLBAUM <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 17:30:32 -0400 (EDT)

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Take your Alternator to any O'Reilly's, Autozone, NAPA Autoparts shop--they=
 should be able to test it.

> On September 30, 2020 at 5:13 PM [email-masked] wrote:
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>     Actually, no they don=E2=80=99t have the facilities.  However, I have=
 taken the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested i=
t and it=E2=80=99s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not b=
elieve is enough.  I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re=
-built (which I should have done in the first place).
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>     Dennis
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>     From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM
>     To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
>     Cc: [email-masked]
>     Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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>     =20
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>     Can=E2=80=99t the parts place test the alternator off the car with th=
eir machine?  Jim Henningsen
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>     =20
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>     From: Triumphs <[email-masked] mailto:triumphs-bounc=
[email-masked] > On Behalf Of [email-masked] mailto:dctr6@optonline=
.net
>     Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM
>     To: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
>     Cc: [email-masked] mailto:[email-masked]
>     Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
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>     =20
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>        Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. =
Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not chargin=
g battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy r=
ebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second=
 rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 d=
ifferent meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad=
 rebuilt alternators.  What=E2=80=99s wrong??
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>     Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6
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  Take your Alternator to any O'Reilly's, Autozone, NAPA Autoparts shop--th=
ey should be able to test it.
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Actually, no they don=E2=80=99t have the facilit=
ies.&nbsp; However, I have taken the 2<sup>nd</sup> alternator to a local a=
uto electric shop where they tested it and it=E2=80=99s only putting out a =
little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough. &nbsp;I plan to retr=
ieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should have done =
in the first place).</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dennis</p>
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      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim Henningsen &lt;trguy75@gmail.=
com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM<br><b>To:</=
b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]=
eam.net<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6</p>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can=E2=80=99t the parts place test the alternato=
r off the car with their machine?&nbsp; Jim Henningsen</p>
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3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;">
      <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <b>O=
n Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]<=
/a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a=
 href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>=
Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br=
><b>Subject:</b> [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6</p>
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    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93=
 Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter =
shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Da=
n Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens=
.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, bat=
tery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12=
 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; What=
=E2=80=99s wrong??</p>
    <p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 </p>
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From: Ron Cirillo <[email-masked]>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 21:55:13 +0000

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I have looked at that circuit and with your answers, the only thing I come =
up with is defective voltage regulator (that is based on testing as indicat=
ed below).  There really isn't much to go wrong with the alternator itself.=
  However, regulators and off shore sourcing can be a real problem.  If the=
y are made in china who knows if they will work or not.  If the rebuilt alt=
ernators are using new stock regulators there could be a bad lot of them ou=
t there.

Ron

From: 6pack <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of [email-masked]
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:13 PM
To: 'Jim Henningsen' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Actually, no they don't have the facilities.  However, I have taken the 2nd=
 alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it's onl=
y putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough.  I p=
lan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should=
 have done in the first place).
Dennis

Can't the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine?  =
Jim Henningsen

   Here's a synopsis - Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and to=
ok car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 vol=
ts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master's book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same=
 thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit - same thing, ba=
ttery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters - all showed 12 volts.=
  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What's wrong??
Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6

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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D">I hav=
e looked at that circuit and with your answers, the only thing I come up wi=
th is defective voltage regulator (that is based on testing as indicated be=
low).&nbsp; There really isn&#8217;t much to go
 wrong with the alternator itself.&nbsp; However, regulators and off shore =
sourcing can be a real problem.&nbsp; If they are made in china who knows i=
f they will work or not.&nbsp; If the rebuilt alternators are using new sto=
ck regulators there could be a bad lot of them
 out there.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D">Ron<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p>=
&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> 6pack &lt;[email-masked]&=
gt; <b>On Behalf Of
</b>[email-masked]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:13 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Jim Henningsen' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked].=
net<br>
<b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6=
<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Actually, no they don&#8217;t have the facilities.&n=
bsp; However, I have taken the 2<sup>nd</sup> alternator to a local auto el=
ectric shop where they tested it and it&#8217;s only putting out a little o=
ver 13 volts which I do not believe is enough. &nbsp;I plan
 to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (which I should ha=
ve done in the first place).<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dennis<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim Henningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; =
<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">
[email-masked]</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o=
:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can&#8217;t the parts place test the alternator off =
the car with their machine?&nbsp; Jim Henningsen<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:triumphs=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;
<b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dctr6@optonline.=
net</a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
et</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>=
<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p><=
/p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp; Here&#8217;s a synopsis &#8211; Almost =
new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows al=
ternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=
&#8217;s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.&nbsp;
 Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit &#8211; same thing, battery is n=
ot being charged. Tried 3 different meters &#8211; all showed 12 volts. &nb=
sp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; What&#8217;s wron=
g??<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 <o:p></o:p></p>
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Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the readin=
g to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as it=
s replacement Delco number of 14.6v=20
Dick=20

> On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> w=
rote:
>=20
> Actually, no they don=E2=80=99t have the facilities.  However, I have take=
n the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested it and i=
t=E2=80=99s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe i=
s enough.  I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built (w=
hich I should have done in the first place).
> Dennis
> =20
> From: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>=20
> Can=E2=80=99t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their m=
achine?  Jim Henningsen
> =20
> From: Triumphs <[email-masked]> On Behalf Of dctr6@optonl=
ine.net
> To: [email-masked]
> Cc: [email-masked]
>    Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charg=
ed battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging batt=
ery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt a=
lternator and the same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt u=
nit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different me=
ters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alt=
ernators.  What=E2=80=99s wrong??
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
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call my original Lucas never showed as high as its replacement Delco number o=
f 14.6v&nbsp;</div><div>Dick&nbsp;</div><div><br>On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM=
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 I have taken the 2<sup>nd</sup> alternator to a local auto electric shop wh=
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E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim H=
enningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a hr=
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"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE=
: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can=E2=80=
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p; Jim Henningsen<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>=
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Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>=
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p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">&nbsp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery wen=
t dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not c=
harging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). B=
uy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a=
 second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tri=
ed 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I=
 got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; What=E2=80=99s wrong??<o:p></o:p></p><=
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Dave =E2=80=93=20

    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL =
not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked =
through the procedure in Dan Master=E2=80=99s book 3 times and every =
time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and it=E2=80=99s =
putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why =
doesn=E2=80=99t this show up at the battery?

We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts =
(?).=20

Dennis=20

=20

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

=20

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output =
(brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive =
cable with a 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good =
connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check =
that out before you spend any more money.

=20

Dave=20

=20

=20

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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

   Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. =
Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not =
charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s =
book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.  Swap =
alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is =
not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 =
volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What=E2=80=99s =
wrong??

Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6=20

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=E2=80=93 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0We =
checked that connection and it was clean and tight.=C2=A0 We are STILL =
not getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.=C2=A0 We =
walked through the procedure in Dan Master=E2=80=99s book 3 times and =
every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested and =
it=E2=80=99s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than =
12). Why doesn=E2=80=99t this show up at the battery?<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We even tested at the back of the alternator and it =
only shows 12 volts (?). <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, =
2020 5:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging =
battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) =
wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable =
with a 3/8 QC connector.&nbsp; If this connector is not making good =
connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.&nbsp; =
Check that out before you spend any more =
money.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
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dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is =
not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing =
happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same =
thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 =
all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt =
alternators.&nbsp; What=E2=80=99s =
wrong??<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
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Richard =E2=80=93=20

    Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild =E2=80=93 we=E2=80=99ll =
see what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement?  I =
may need to go that way.  Thanks.

Dennis =20

=20

From: Richard <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:58 PM
To: [email-masked]
Cc: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]
Subject: Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

=20

Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the =
reading to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as =
high as its replacement Delco number of 14.6v=20

Dick=20

On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, <[email-masked] =

Actually, no they don=E2=80=99t have the facilities.  However, I have =
taken the 2nd alternator to a local auto electric shop where they tested =
it and it=E2=80=99s only putting out a little over 13 volts which I do =
not believe is enough.  I plan to retrieve my original alternator and =
have it re-built (which I should have done in the first place).

Dennis

=20

=20

Can=E2=80=99t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their =
machine?  Jim Henningsen

=20

From: Triumphs <[email-masked] =
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Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

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class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Dropped the alternator off =
today for rebuild =E2=80=93 we=E2=80=99ll see what we get. Do you have a =
part number for the Delco replacement?=C2=A0 I may need to go that =
way.=C2=A0 Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Richard =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, =
2020 6:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> Jim =
Henningsen &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pack] [TR] Alternator not =
charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jim --- =
Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the reading to =
more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as its =
replacement Delco number of 14.6v&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dick&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Sep 30, 2020, at =
2:13 PM, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Actually, no they don=E2=80=99t have the =
facilities.&nbsp; However, I have taken the 2<sup>nd</sup> alternator to =
a local auto electric shop where they tested it and it=E2=80=99s only =
putting out a little over 13 volts which I do not believe is enough. =
&nbsp;I plan to retrieve my original alternator and have it re-built =
(which I should have done in the first place).<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jim Henningsen &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Can=E2=80=99t the parts place test the alternator off =
the car with their machine?&nbsp; Jim Henningsen<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Triumphs &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
am.net</a>&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Sent:</=
b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
>Cc:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;&nbsp; =
Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. =
Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not =
charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s =
book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.&nbsp; Swap =
alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is =
not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 =
volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; =
What=E2=80=99s wrong??<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis =
Culligan, 1976 TR6 <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote =
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I asked the counter guy for an alternator for  1980 Cheve V6.=20
Clocked it so the mounting points matched the block piece. I recall making a=
 bushing here so the thru bolt fit better. I use the original wire connectio=
n junction that's used for the Lucas and crimped on electrical spades from t=
he alternator wires Into the junction. This could be done neater but wanted t=
o keep the Lucas junction box. Not sure why, after about 20 years with the D=
elco!=20
Dick=20
> On Oct 1, 2020, at 2:40 PM, <[email-masked]> <[email-masked]> wr=
ote:
>=20
> Richard =E2=80=93
>     Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild =E2=80=93 we=E2=80=99ll s=
ee what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement?  I may n=
eed to go that way.  Thanks.
> Cc: Jim Henningsen <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]; 6pack@aut=
ox.team.net
> Jim --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the read=
ing to more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as i=
ts replacement Delco number of 14.6v=20
achine?  Jim Henningsen
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 an alternator for &nbsp;1980 Cheve V6.&nbsp;</div><div>Clocked it so the mo=
unting points matched the block piece. I recall making a bushing here so the=
 thru bolt fit better. I use the original wire connection junction that's us=
ed for the Lucas and crimped on electrical spades from the alternator wires I=
nto the junction. This could be done neater but wanted to keep the Lucas jun=
ction box. Not sure why, after about 20 years with the Delco!&nbsp;</div><di=
v>Dick&nbsp;</div><div>On Oct 1, 2020, at 2:40 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dct=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dctr6@op=
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oNormal">Richard =E2=80=93 <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;Dropped the alternator off today for rebuild =E2=80=93 we=E2=80=
=99ll see what we get. Do you have a part number for the Delco replacement?&=
nbsp; I may need to go that way.&nbsp; Thanks.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Dennis&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p>=
</p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.=
0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Richard &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br><b>Sent:</=
b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 6:58 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:dct=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Jim Henningsen &lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"ma=
ilto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [6pac=
k] [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Jim=
 --- Let us know if rebuilding your original alternator raises the reading t=
o more than 13.xxv. I recall my original Lucas never showed as high as its r=
eplacement Delco number of 14.6v&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">Dick&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On Sep 30, 2020, at 2:13 PM, &lt;<a href=3D"mailt=
o:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:dct=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><bl=
ockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Actually, no they don=E2=80=99t have the facilities.&nbsp; However, I=
 have taken the 2<sup>nd</sup> alternator to a local auto electric shop wher=
e they tested it and it=E2=80=99s only putting out a little over 13 volts wh=
ich I do not believe is enough. &nbsp;I plan to retrieve my original alterna=
tor and have it re-built (which I should have done in the first place).<o:p>=
</o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dennis<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"=
>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E=
1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim H=
enningsen &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;=
 <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a href=3D"mailto=
:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subject:</b> RE=
: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div></div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Can=E2=80=
=99t the parts place test the alternator off the car with their machine?&nbs=
p; Jim Henningsen<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p>=
<div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0=
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to:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <=
b>On Behalf Of </b><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
t</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 12:04 PM<br><b>To:</b> <=
a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>=
Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>=
<b>Subject:</b> [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></=
p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">&nbsp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery wen=
t dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not c=
harging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). B=
uy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a=
 second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tri=
ed 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I=
 got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; What=E2=80=99s wrong??<o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 <o:p></o:p></p></div></block=
quote><blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p cla=
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 Hmmm.... confusing.=C2=A0 I think you already answered this but I forgot t=
he response.=C2=A0 Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and =
does it go out after starting the engine?
Is the belt tight?
I'm grasping at straws.
=20
Dave=20

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

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=80=93 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0We checked that connection and it was clean =
and tight.=C2=A0 We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator t=
o the battery.=C2=A0 We walked through the procedure in Dan Master=E2=80=99=
s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had te=
sted and it=E2=80=99s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more =
than 12). Why doesn=E2=80=99t this show up at the battery?We even tested at=
 the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis  =C2=A0F=
rom: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 =C2=A0On the 7=
6 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire conn=
ects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC =
connector.=C2=A0 If this connector is not making good connection even a goo=
d alternator will not charge the battery.=C2=A0 Check that out before you s=
pend any more money. =C2=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6=C2=A0=C2=A0 Here=
=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charged batte=
ry and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (on=
ly 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt altern=
ator and the same thing happens.=C2=A0 Swap alternator for a second rebuilt=
 unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different=
 meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts. =C2=A0Hard to believe I got 2 bad re=
built alternators.=C2=A0 What=E2=80=99s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 **=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Hmmm.... confusing.&nbsp; I think you already answer=
ed this but I forgot the response.&nbsp; Does the Ign light come on when yo=
u first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?</font></div=

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<div><font size=3D"3">Is the belt tight?</font></div>

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<div><font size=3D"3">I'm grasping at straws.</font><br>
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<div style=3D"clear:both"><font size=3D"4">Dave </font><br>
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To: 'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;[email-masked]&gt;; [email-masked]<br>
Cc: [email-masked]<br>
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm<br>
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6<br>
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<div class=3D"yiv9867486452MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 </div>

<div class=3D"yiv9867486452MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We checked th=
at connection and it was clean and tight.&nbsp; We are STILL not getting an=
y voltage from the alternator to the battery.&nbsp; We walked through the p=
rocedure in Dan Master=E2=80=99s book 3 times and every time, it points to =
a bad alternator which I had tested and it=E2=80=99s putting out over 13 vo=
lts (maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn=E2=80=99t this show up a=
t the battery?</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9867486452MsoNormal">We even tested at the back of the alt=
ernator and it only shows 12 volts (?). </div>

<div class=3D"yiv9867486452MsoNormal">Dennis </div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9867486452MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1ma=
[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 20=
20 5:31 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; triumphs@autox=
.team.net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"non=
e"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6</div=
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<div class=3D"yiv9867486452MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars)=
 the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positi=
ve battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.&nbsp; If this connector =
is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the ba=
ttery.&nbsp; Check that out before you spend any more money.</span></div>
</div>

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n></div>
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ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dct=
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ilto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
m.net">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 1=
1:03 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1=
976 TR6</span></div>

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family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=
=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. =
Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as =
per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing h=
appens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thin=
g, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all sho=
wed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; =
What=E2=80=99s wrong??</span></div>
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We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?)=
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tput terminal and the battery positive it would read a very low resistance.=
=C2=A0 About the same as when you touch the meter leads together.=C2=A0 Thi=
s will verify that the connection to the battery is good.=C2=A0 The fact th=
at the voltage at the alternator is 12 volts means the alternator isn't pro=
ducing.
What other possible fault could there be?=C2=A0 A bad ground?=C2=A0 But if =
the alternator wasn't grounded the light wouldn't behave properly.
It's tough troubleshooting something via this medium.
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This doesn't answer your problem, but nobody has mentioned Bosch 13107 as a=
n excellent replacement. Ford Focus I think. It's a straight bolt on upgrad=
e. I have two.

My brother (73-Six) blew 2 alternators before he realized he didn't even ha=
ve an engine-block to body-tub ground wire. Is there any chance you're blow=
ing them immediately? Maybe have rebuilt unit tested before you install, as=
 dumb as that sounds.

Sloane
69-Six
72-Spit

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Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

Dave =96
    We checked that connection and it was clean and tight.  We are STILL no=
t getting any voltage from the alternator to the battery.  We walked throug=
h the procedure in Dan Master=92s book 3 times and every time, it points to=
 a bad alternator which I had tested and it=92s putting out over 13 volts (=
maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn=92t this show up at the batte=
ry?
We even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?)=
.
Dennis

From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
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Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) w=
ire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a=
 3/8 QC connector.  If this connector is not making good connection even a =
good alternator will not charge the battery.  Check that out before you spe=
nd any more money.

Dave

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Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6
   Here=92s a synopsis =96 Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery an=
d took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12=
 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=92s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and th=
e same thing happens.  Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =96 same t=
hing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =96 all showed=
 12 volts.  Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.  What=92s wron=
g??
Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6

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&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We checked that connection and it was clean and tig=
ht.&nbsp; We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the b=
attery.&nbsp; We walked through the procedure in Dan Master=92s book 3 time=
s and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested
 and it=92s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12). =
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onnects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 =
QC connector.&nbsp; If this connector is
 not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the batt=
ery.&nbsp; Check that out before you spend any more money.</span></div>
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 Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator f=
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Dave =E2=80=93=20

    Yes, light comes on and goes off and the belt has about =C2=BD inch =
of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the battery which =
we=E2=80=99ve not really considered.  We, too, are grasping at =
straws=E2=80=A6

Thanks.=20

Dennis

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Hmmm.... confusing.  I think you already answered this but I forgot the =
response.  Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does =
it go out after starting the engine?

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Is the belt tight?

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I'm grasping at straws.

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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>To: =
'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt;; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Cc=
: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: =
Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm<br>Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging =
battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv9867486452><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e =E2=80=93 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We checked that connection and it was clean and =
tight.&nbsp; We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to =
the battery.&nbsp; We walked through the procedure in Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad =
alternator which I had tested and it=E2=80=99s putting out over 13 volts =
(maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn=E2=80=99t this show up at =
the battery?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>We =
even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts =
(?). <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
nis <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv9867486452yqt77412><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; =
<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b=
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br><b>Subje=
ct:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) =
wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable =
with a 3/8 QC connector.&nbsp; If this connector is not making good =
connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.&nbsp; =
Check that out before you spend any more money.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: <a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>To: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Cc: <a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank">[email-masked]</a><br>Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 =
11:03 am<br>Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dyiv9867486452><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went =
dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is =
not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing =
happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same =
thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 =
all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt =
alternators.&nbsp; What=E2=80=99s wrong??</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
nis Culligan, 1976 TR6 </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>** =
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 Battery.=C2=A0 Hadn't thought of that.=C2=A0 Do you have a battery charger=
?=C2=A0 You could hook that up and see what the voltage does.
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 10:02 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6

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=80=93 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Yes, light comes on and goes off and the bel=
t has about =C2=BD inch of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the batt=
ery which we=E2=80=99ve not really considered.=C2=A0 We, too, are grasping =
at straws=E2=80=A6Thanks. Dennis =C2=A0From: DAVID MASSEY <[email-masked]=
om>=20
Sent: Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:20 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6 =C2=A0Hmmm....=
 confusing.=C2=A0 I think you already answered this but I forgot the respon=
se.=C2=A0 Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on and does it g=
o out after starting the engine? =C2=A0Is the belt tight? =C2=A0I'm graspin=
g at straws. =C2=A0Dave  =C2=A0 =C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
To: 'DAVID MASSEY' <[email-masked]>; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm
Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6Dave =E2=80=93 =
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0We checked that connection and it was clean and tig=
ht.=C2=A0 We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to the b=
attery.=C2=A0 We walked through the procedure in Dan Master=E2=80=99s book =
3 times and every time, it points to a bad alternator which I had tested an=
d it=E2=80=99s putting out over 13 volts (maybe not enough but more than 12=
). Why doesn=E2=80=99t this show up at the battery?We even tested at the ba=
ck of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts (?). Dennis =C2=A0From: DAV=
ID MASSEY <[email-masked]>=20
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM
To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Subject: Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6=C2=A0On the 76=
 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) wire conne=
cts to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC c=
onnector.=C2=A0 If this connector is not making good connection even a good=
 alternator will not charge the battery.=C2=A0 Check that out before you sp=
end any more money.=C2=A0Dave =C2=A0=C2=A0-----Original Message-----
From: [email-masked]
To: [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am
Subject: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6=C2=A0=C2=A0 Here=
=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charged batte=
ry and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (on=
ly 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt altern=
ator and the same thing happens.=C2=A0 Swap alternator for a second rebuilt=
 unit =E2=80=93 same thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different=
 meters =E2=80=93 all showed 12 volts. =C2=A0Hard to believe I got 2 bad re=
built alternators.=C2=A0 What=E2=80=99s wrong??Dennis Culligan, 1976 TR6 **=
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<div> <font size=3D"3">Battery.&nbsp; Hadn't thought of that.&nbsp; Do you =
have a battery charger?&nbsp; You could hook that up and see what the volta=
ge does.</font><br>
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<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 </div>

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0in 0in;">
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes, light co=
mes on and goes off and the belt has about =C2=BD inch of play. Recent note=
s have made me suspect the battery which we=E2=80=99ve not really considere=
d.&nbsp; We, too, are grasping at straws=E2=80=A6</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal">Thanks. </div>

<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal">Dennis</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9143950089yqt0765703297" id=3D"yiv9143950089yqt84008">
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal">Fr<b>om:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1ma=
[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 1, 2020 7=
:20 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]=
m.net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><=
b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6</div>
</div>
</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9143950089yqt0765703297" id=3D"yiv9143950089yqt99981">
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Hmmm.... confusing.&nbsp; I think you alrea=
dy answered this but I forgot the response.&nbsp; Does the Ign light come o=
n when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?</s=
pan></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Is the belt tight?</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">I'm grasping at straws.</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:13.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dave </span=
n></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;">-----Origin=
al Message-----<br clear=3D"none">From: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:dct=
[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">To: 'DAVID MASS=
EY' &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dave1massey@cs=
.com" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]=
om</a>&gt;; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triumphs@a=
utox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">tr=
[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">Cc: <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D=
"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none">Se=
nt: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm<br clear=3D"none">Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator=
 not charging battery - 1976 TR6</span></div>

<div id=3D"yiv9143950089">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dave =E2=80=93 </span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We checked that con=
nection and it was clean and tight.&nbsp; We are STILL not getting any volt=
age from the alternator to the battery.&nbsp; We walked through the procedu=
re in Dan Master=E2=80=99s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad =
alternator which I had tested and it=E2=80=99s putting out over 13 volts (m=
aybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn=E2=80=99t this show up at the =
battery?</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">We even tested at the back of the alternato=
r and it only shows 12 volts (?). </span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">Dennis </span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></div>
</div>

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<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in;">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv9143950089MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;fo=
nt-family:sans-serif;color:black;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size=
:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;color:black;"> DAVID MASSEY &lt;<a rel=3D"no=
follow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a>&gt; <br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM<br clear=3D"no=
ne"><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:dctr6@o=
ptonline.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">dctr6@o=
ptonline.net</a>; <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:triu=
[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]=
et">[email-masked]</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> <a rel=3D"nofo=
llow" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_bla=
nk" href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]">[email-masked]</a><br clear=
=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 T=
R6</span></div>
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family:sans-serif;color:black;">On the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars)=
 the alternator output (brown) wire connects to the power tap on the positi=
ve battery positive cable with a 3/8 QC connector.&nbsp; If this connector =
is not making good connection even a good alternator will not charge the ba=
ttery.&nbsp; Check that out before you spend any more money.</span><span st=
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r clear=3D"none">Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am<br clear=3D"none">Subject=
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family:sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=
=80=93 Almost new battery went dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. =
Meter shows alternator is not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as =
per Dan Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing h=
appens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same thin=
g, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 all sho=
wed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt alternators.&nbsp; =
What=E2=80=99s wrong??</span><span style=3D"font-family:sans-serif;color:bl=
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 What is the battery voltage with the engine off?
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<div class=3D"yiv9111010956MsoNormal">Dave =E2=80=93 </div>

<div class=3D"yiv9111010956MsoNormal">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes, light co=

<div class=3D"yiv9111010956MsoNormal">Thanks. </div>

<div class=3D"yiv9111010956MsoNormal">Dennis</div>

<div class=3D"yiv9111010956MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</div>

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<div class=3D"yiv9111010956MsoNormal">Fr<b>om:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;dave1ma=
[email-masked]&gt; <br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 1, 2020 7=
:20 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; [email-masked]=
m.net<br clear=3D"none"><b>Cc:</b> [email-masked]<br clear=3D"none"><=
b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 TR6</div>
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family:sans-serif;color:black;">Hmmm.... confusing.&nbsp; I think you alrea=
dy answered this but I forgot the response.&nbsp; Does the Ign light come o=
n when you first switch on and does it go out after starting the engine?</s=
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family:sans-serif;color:black;">We even tested at the back of the alternato=
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Dave =E2=80=93=20

    Battery voltage with engine off is 12 volts.=20

    Suspecting a possible battery problem, today we did a load test on =
the battery and it was OK.  We then hooked up a different battery with =
the same exact results =E2=80=93 no voltage increase noted at the =
battery with the engine running.  We are still completely confused by =
the fact that the alternator tested =E2=80=9COK=E2=80=9D (although only =
13.4 volts instead of the expected 14+) but there is no voltage increase =
at the battery .  Brown/yellow wire tests OK.

      We are taking a break until Monday when I will pick up my original =
Lucas alternator from the local rebuilder.  The plan is I will have him =
verify the o/p voltage and we will put it on the car and test it w/o =
hooking the brown/yellow wire to the battery.  If it=E2=80=99s =
registering the same voltage as tested by the rebuilder (hopefully 14+), =
we will attach the brown/yellow wire and test at the battery. Neither of =
the rebuilt alternators that we have been dealing with have shown more =
than 12 volts either at the alternator or at the battery.

Completely flummoxed,=20

Dennis =20

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To: [email-masked]; [email-masked]
Cc: [email-masked]
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Dave =E2=80=93=20

Thanks.=20

Dennis

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Is the belt tight?

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I'm grasping at straws.

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=E2=80=93 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Battery voltage with engine =
off is 12 volts. <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Suspecting a possible battery =
problem, today we did a load test on the battery and it was OK.=C2=A0 We =
then hooked up a different battery with the same exact results =E2=80=93 =
no voltage increase noted at the battery with the engine running.=C2=A0 =
We are still completely confused by the fact that the alternator tested =
=E2=80=9COK=E2=80=9D (although only 13.4 volts instead of the expected =
14+) but there is no voltage increase at the battery .=C2=A0 =
Brown/yellow wire tests OK.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 We are taking a break =
until Monday when I will pick up my original Lucas alternator from the =
local rebuilder.=C2=A0 The plan is I will have him verify the o/p =
voltage and we will put it on the car and test it w/o hooking the =
brown/yellow wire to the battery.=C2=A0 If it=E2=80=99s registering the =
same voltage as tested by the rebuilder (hopefully 14+), we will attach =
the brown/yellow wire and test at the battery. Neither of the rebuilt =
alternators that we have been dealing with have shown more than 12 volts =
either at the alternator or at the battery.<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Completely flummoxed, <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Dennis=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
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style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> DAVID MASSEY =
&lt;[email-masked]&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 2, 2020 =
11:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> [email-masked]; =
[email-masked]<br><b>Cc:</b> =
[email-masked]<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging =
battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
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class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Wha=
t is the battery voltage with the engine =
off?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
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.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>To: 'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dave1massey@cs.=
com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;; </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Cc: </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
m.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 10:02 pm<br>Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not =
charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p><div =
id=3Dyiv9111010956><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e =E2=80=93 <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Yes, light comes on and goes off and the belt has =
about =C2=BD inch of play. Recent notes have made me suspect the battery =
which we=E2=80=99ve not really considered.&nbsp; We, too, are grasping =
at straws=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Tha=
nks. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
nis<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id=3Dyiv9111010956yqt30497><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fr<=
b>om:</b> DAVID MASSEY &lt;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dave1massey@cs.=
com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
; <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, October 1, 2020 7:20 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dctr6@optonline=
.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>; =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
><b>Cc:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
m.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div =
id=3Dyiv9111010956yqt87048><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hmm=
m.... confusing.&nbsp; I think you already answered this but I forgot =
the response.&nbsp; Does the Ign light come on when you first switch on =
and does it go out after starting the engine?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Is =
the belt tight?</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I'm=
 grasping at straws.</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dctr6@optonline=
.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>To: 'DAVID MASSEY' &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dave1massey@cs.=
com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
;; </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Cc: </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
m.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Sent: Thu, Oct 1, 2020 4:31 pm<br>Subject: RE: [TR] Alternator not =
charging battery - 1976 TR6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div =
id=3Dyiv9111010956><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e =E2=80=93 </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;We checked that connection and it was clean and =
tight.&nbsp; We are STILL not getting any voltage from the alternator to =
the battery.&nbsp; We walked through the procedure in Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book 3 times and every time, it points to a bad =
alternator which I had tested and it=E2=80=99s putting out over 13 volts =
(maybe not enough but more than 12). Why doesn=E2=80=99t this show up at =
the battery?</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>We =
even tested at the back of the alternator and it only shows 12 volts =
(?). </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
nis </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9111010956yqt77412><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'> =
DAVID MASSEY &lt;</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dave1massey@cs.=
com</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&gt=
; <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 30, 2020 5:31 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dctr6@optonline=
.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>; =
</span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
><b>Cc:</b> </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
m.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
><b>Subject:</b> Re: [TR] Alternator not charging battery - 1976 =
TR6</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
the 76 TR6 (well all the CF series cars) the alternator output (brown) =
wire connects to the power tap on the positive battery positive cable =
with a 3/8 QC connector.&nbsp; If this connector is not making good =
connection even a good alternator will not charge the battery.&nbsp; =
Check that out before you spend any more money.</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Dav=
e </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>dctr6@optonline=
.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>To: </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>triumphs@autox.=
team.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Cc: </span><a href=3D"mailto:[email-masked]" =
target=3D"_blank"><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>[email-masked]=
m.net</span></a><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><br=
>Sent: Wed, Sep 30, 2020 11:03 am<br>Subject: [TR] Alternator not =
charging battery - 1976 TR6</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div><div id=3Dyiv9111010956><div><div><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;&nbsp; Here=E2=80=99s a synopsis =E2=80=93 Almost new battery went =
dead. Charged battery and took car to shop. Meter shows alternator is =
not charging battery (only 12 volts, not 14.6 as per Dan =
Master=E2=80=99s book). Buy rebuilt alternator and the same thing =
happens.&nbsp; Swap alternator for a second rebuilt unit =E2=80=93 same =
thing, battery is not being charged. Tried 3 different meters =E2=80=93 =
all showed 12 volts. &nbsp;Hard to believe I got 2 bad rebuilt =
alternators.&nbsp; What=E2=80=99s wrong??</span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Den=
nis Culligan, 1976 TR6 </span><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></=
p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><div><p =
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